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Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructureL at least

by David Mason

SQL and NOSQL both interesting. NOSQL at least dynamically typed, I think. And just so others don’t need to track it down, Camp Smalltalk is at ZWEIDENKER, Luxemburger Str. 72, 50674 Köln ../Dave On Aug 23, 2019, 2:00 PM -0400, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>, wrote: > And just for the record. I wasn‘t talking more about NoSQL (mongo queries, AQL). Not sure the difference is big > > > Am 23.08.2019 um 19:47 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: > > > > I’ll probably be at the Stadtgarden around 14:30 Saturday and early Sunday and will start working on this whenever anyone else shows up and is interested in working on it. There seem to be at least 4 people besides me. > > > > Known targets for transpilation include: > > Javascript - PharoJS - working - dynamically typed, strange numeric stack - IWST papers describing mapping > > JVM - PharoJVM - partial - statically typed, instance OO - IWST paper last year describing mapping > > Illicium - ?working - statically typed, structs/unions - IWST paper this year > > Python - dynamically typed, OO > > SQL? - ? typed > > > > So lots of variation to think about. Would be nice for all of the above to subclass a generic transpiler. See my earlier message for other considerations > > > > ../Dave > > On 21.08.2019 at 18:18 David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: > > > > > I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript > > > I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM > > > I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C > > > There may be other transpires…. > > > > > > I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too. >

Aug. 23, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructure

by Norbert Hartl

And just for the record. I wasn‘t talking more about NoSQL (mongo queries, AQL). Not sure the difference is big > Am 23.08.2019 um 19:47 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: > > I’ll probably be at the Stadtgarden around 14:30 Saturday and early Sunday and will start working on this whenever anyone else shows up and is interested in working on it. There seem to be at least 4 people besides me. > > Known targets for transpilation include: > Javascript - PharoJS - working - dynamically typed, strange numeric stack - IWST papers describing mapping > JVM - PharoJVM - partial - statically typed, instance OO - IWST paper last year describing mapping > Illicium - ?working - statically typed, structs/unions - IWST paper this year > Python - dynamically typed, OO > SQL? - ? typed > > So lots of variation to think about. Would be nice for all of the above to subclass a generic transpiler. See my earlier message for other considerations > > ../Dave > On 21.08.2019 at 18:18 David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: > >> I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript >> I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM >> I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C >> There may be other transpires…. >> >> I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too.

Aug. 23, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructure

by Norbert Hartl

Ok, but don‘t go to Stadtgarten on saturday and sunday. Camp Smalltalk is at our office. Norbert > Am 23.08.2019 um 19:47 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: > > I’ll probably be at the Stadtgarden around 14:30 Saturday and early Sunday and will start working on this whenever anyone else shows up and is interested in working on it. There seem to be at least 4 people besides me. > > Known targets for transpilation include: > Javascript - PharoJS - working - dynamically typed, strange numeric stack - IWST papers describing mapping > JVM - PharoJVM - partial - statically typed, instance OO - IWST paper last year describing mapping > Illicium - ?working - statically typed, structs/unions - IWST paper this year > Python - dynamically typed, OO > SQL? - ? typed > > So lots of variation to think about. Would be nice for all of the above to subclass a generic transpiler. See my earlier message for other considerations > > ../Dave > On 21.08.2019 at 18:18 David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: > >> I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript >> I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM >> I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C >> There may be other transpires…. >> >> I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too.

Aug. 23, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructure

by David Mason

I’ll probably be at the Stadtgarden around 14:30 Saturday and early Sunday and will start working on this whenever anyone else shows up and is interested in working on it. There seem to be at least 4 people besides me. Known targets for transpilation include: Javascript - PharoJS - working - dynamically typed, strange numeric stack - IWST papers describing mapping JVM - PharoJVM - partial - statically typed, instance OO - IWST paper last year describing mapping Illicium - ?working - statically typed, structs/unions - IWST paper this year Python - dynamically typed, OO SQL? - ? typed So lots of variation to think about. Would be nice for all of the above to subclass a generic transpiler. See my earlier message for other considerations ../Dave On 21.08.2019 at 18:18 David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: > I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript > I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM > I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C > There may be other transpires…. > > I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too.

Aug. 23, 2019

talk title correction

by Christian Haider

Hi, I just saw the schedule and saw that the title of my talk is misspelled. How do I send a mail to to have it changed? Instead of "Our Money" it is "Our Moneys" (yes, the "s" matters and it changes the meaning of the title). help

Aug. 23, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructure

by Norbert Hartl

Hi, > Am 21.08.2019 um 18:18 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: > > I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript > I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM > I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C > There may be other transpires…. > > I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too. > > I’ll be in Cologne Saturday afternoon, and would love to make some progress toward this. Any collaborators. > I’m interested in transpiling although not an expert. I tinker with the idea to find a smalltalk subset that could be transpiled to database queries. So I don’t know if that fits but I wanted to show my interest. I would be in. Norbert > ../Dave > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Aug. 22, 2019

Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructure

by David Mason

I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C There may be other transpires…. I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too. I’ll be in Cologne Saturday afternoon, and would love to make some progress toward this. Any collaborators. ../Dave

Aug. 21, 2019

Einführungskurs "Programmieren in Smalltalk mit Cincom VisualWorks", 2. bis 6. September, noch drei Plätze frei

by Nowak, Helge

Hallo liebe deutschsprachige Smalltalk-Gemeinde, dies ist etwas für Eure Freunde und Kollegen, die sich gerne mal näher mit Smalltalk beschäftigen möchten: vom 2. bis 6. September läuft der Einführungskurs "Programmieren in Smalltalk mit Cincom VisualWorks" Es sind noch drei Plätze frei. Interessierte melden sich bitte bei mir. Herzliche Grüße und happy Smalltalking Helge Helge Nowak Cincom Smalltalk Technical Account Manager [http://internal.cincom.com/signature/logo.png]<http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/> Cincom Systems GmbH & Co. oHG Humboldtstraße 3 60318 Frankfurt am Main GERMANY [http://internal.cincom.com/signature/twitter2.png]<https://twitter.com/cincom> [http://internal.cincom.com/signature/linkedin2.png] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/cincom-systems> [http://internal.cincom.com/signature/youtube2.png] <https://www.youtube.com/user/CincomVideo> [http://internal.cincom.com/signature/rss2.png] <http://www.cincom.com/blog/feed/> office mobile website email +49 89 89 66 44 94 +49 172 74 00 402 http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com hnowak(a)cincom.com A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. -- Albert Einstein Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Thomas M. Nies, Donald E. Vick oHG mit Sitz/based in Frankfurt am Main (Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main HRA 50297) Pers. haftender Gesellschafter/Partner liable to unlimited extent: Cincom Systems Verwaltungsgesellschaft mbH (Amtsgericht Königstein/Ts. HRB 5069) --- CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT --- This e-mail transmission contains information that is intended to be privileged and confidential. It is intended only for the addressee named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited, please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated.

Aug. 21, 2019

2 days left to submit your software to the ESUG Innovation Technology Awards

by N. Bouraqadi

Submit your project and show all the cool things enabled by Smalltalk :-) > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "N. Bouraqadi" <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com <mailto:bouraqadi@gmail.com>> > Subject: ESUG Innovation Technology Awards Call for submissions > Date: 9 July 2019 at 16:08:49 CEST > To: Board ESUG <board(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:board@lists.esug.org>>, Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > > Dear Smalltalkers, > > Developers are invited to submit their Smalltalk-related project to the 16th edition of the ESUG Innovation Technology Awards. > The top 3 teams with the most innovative software will receive, respectively, 500 Euros, 300 Euros and 200 Euros. > > Submit now! > > Instructions are available at: https://esug.github.io/2019-Conference/awardsCall2019.html <https://esug.github.io/2019-Conference/awardsCall2019.html> > > Noury

Aug. 16, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk books for sale

by David West

Hey Steve, I desperately need a Digitalk Methods manual. Any chance you know of one anywhere? Or anyone else on the list? Mine is almost 1800 miles away in Utah. dave west dwest(a)objectguild.com On Mon, Aug 12, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: > BTW, > > Photos of the front cover of the books can be seen here: > > https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-irzbsJiP-eO4qILRgTK0YBT8H-M6LV0 > > Some of the book covers have stickers on them, but otherwise in good condition. > > Cheers, > Steve > ===== > > On Mon, 12 Aug 2019 at 11:53, Steve Edwards <steve(a)escala.co.uk> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I have old Smalltalk books for sale. >> Be good if they could go to a good home. >> >> Thinking of selling them as packages of related books to simplify buying and posting. >> >> Anybody interested? >> >> (Not sure if best means is to use eBay?) >> >> =================================================================== >> Package A - Smalltalk 80 >> >> Smalltalk-80 >> - Bits of History, Words of Advice >> Glenn Krasner >> Addison Wesley >> 1983 >> >> Smalltalk-80 >> - The Interactive Programming Environment >> Adele Goldberg >> Addison Wesley >> 1984 (HB) >> >> Smalltalk-80 (2 copies) >> - The Language >> Adele Goldberg, David Robson >> Addison Wesley >> 1989 >> >> An Introduction to OO Programming and Smalltalk >> Lewis Pinson, Richard Wiener >> Addison Wesley >> 1988 >> >> =================================================================== >> Package B - The Object People >> >> Inside Smalltalk >> - Vol 1 >> Wilf LaLonde, John Pugh >> Prentice Hall >> 1990 (HB) >> >> Inside Smalltalk >> - Vol 2 >> Wilf LaLonde, John Pugh >> Prentice Hall >> 1991 (HB) >> >> Discovering Smalltalk >> Wilf LaLonde >> Benjamin Cummings >> 1994 >> >> Smalltalk/V >> - Practice and Experience >> Wilf LalOnde, John Pugh >> Prentice Hall >> 1994 >> >> =================================================================== >> Package C - VisualWorks >> >> Smalltalk >> - An Introduction to Application Development using VisualWorks >> Trevor Hopkins, Bernard Horan >> Prentice Hall >> 1995 >> >> The Art and Science of Smalltalk (2 copies) >> - An Introduction to OO Programming using VisualWorks >> Simon Lewis >> Prentice Hall (HP) >> 1995 >> >> The Smalltalk Developer's Guide to VisualWorks >> Tim Howard >> SIGS Books >> 1995 >> >> =================================================================== >> Package D - Smalltalk/V, Windows, OS2 >> >> A Quick Trip to ObjectLand >> - OO Programming with Smalltalk/V >> Prentice Hall >> 1992 >> >> Smalltalk Programming for Windows >> Dan Shafer >> Prima Publishing >> 1993 >> >> IBM Smalltalk Programming for Windows and OS/2 >> Don Shafer, Scott Herndon >> Prima Publishing >> 1995 >> >> IBM Smalltalk >> - The Language >> David Smith >> Benjamin Cummings >> 1995 >> >> VisualAge for Smalltalk Distributed >> Walter Fang, Sven Guyet, Randy Haven, Matti Vilmi, Eduardo Eckmann >> Prentice Hall >> 1996 >> >> =================================================================== >> Package E - Practice, Patterns >> >> Rapid Software Development with Smalltalk >> Mark Lorenz >> SIGS Books >> 1995 >> >> Smalltalk with Style >> Suzanne Skublic, Edward Klimas, David Thomas >> Prentice Hall >> 1996 >> >> Smalltalk >> - Best Practice Patterns >> Kent Beck >> Prentice Hall >> 1997 >> >> Guide to Smalltalk >> - A Sorted Collection >> Kent Beck >> Cambridge University Press >> 1999 >> >> =================================================================== >> HB = Hard Back >> -- >> Steve Edwards >> Formerly of The Object People >> > > > -- > Steve Edwards > IBM DataPower Specialist > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Aug. 12, 2019