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Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] [ann] moose 5.0

by Tudor Girba

Hi Giorgio, Thanks for the kind words. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 1:20 AM, giorgio ferraris < giorgio.ferraris(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Guys, > > I'm not (yet) working on Pharo (still VW and some VisualSmalltalk in the > few time left free from my main job), but I follow what you do (not just > you but all the community) and I have to admit you (all) work really hard. > Bergel is doing a fantastic job, and your Moose is very nice, etc. > But, I really liked the presentation of the GT stuff, I can understand the > energy you put behind your work. > > Great work. I'm happy you are on the ST community and working on the > language (ST) i like the most. Thanks! > (Oh, I know you don't like to have Pharo called Smalltalk, but I don't > like religion's wars, so that is yet smalltalk, for me). > > BTW: Happy Holidays to all. > > Giorgio > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > >> We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: >> *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* >> >> >> Description >> --- >> >> This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a look >> at these two trailers. >> - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 >> - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 >> >> The key highlights are: >> - It is based on Pharo 3.0. >> - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of >> Moose. >> - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many >> new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and >> several new layouts. >> - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. >> - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the >> main text editor. >> - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. >> - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager >> browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. >> - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined >> with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. >> - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place >> visualizations. >> - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. >> - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables >> elegant island parsing. >> >> A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: >> >> http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… >> >> >> Installation >> --- >> >> The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: >> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ >> moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip> >> * >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-mac.zip*> >> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ >> moose_suite_5_0-win.zip >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip> >> * >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-win.zip*> >> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ >> moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip> >> * >> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-linux.zi…> >> >> The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from >> the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: >> >> ==Gofer new >> == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; >> == configuration; >> == loadStable >> >> >> Happy holidays! >> The Moose team >> > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 24, 2014

[ann] moose 5.0

by Tudor Girba

We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* Description --- This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a look at these two trailers. - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 The key highlights are: - It is based on Pharo 3.0. - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of Moose. - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and several new layouts. - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the main text editor. - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place visualizations. - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables elegant island parsing. A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… Installation --- The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip> * <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-mac.zip*> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ moose_suite_5_0-win.zip <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip> * <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-win.zip*> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip> * <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-linux.zi…> The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: ==Gofer new == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; == configuration; == loadStable Happy holidays! The Moose team

Dec. 23, 2014

Searching for a presentation from perhaps ESUG 2013

by Richard Sargent

I was told that during one of the 2013 presentations, someone describe two companies which merged. One company's staffing as ~225 while the others was ~25, the second being a Smalltalk-based application. I am trying to track down the specific details of that. Any recollections or pointers to the details would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Richard -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Searching-for-a-presentation-from-perhaps-ESUG-2013-t… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 12, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Tudor Girba

Thanks for the suggestions, Johan. I will change the text and we will definitely look into making the shortcuts more apparent. Cheers, Doru On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > OK now I get it … thanks for clarifying! > I think my confusion stems from the use of ‘category' and then talking > about 'the collection object’, which made me think about collections and > source code and protocols and packages and I got lost. > > I think that the sentence of the blog would be clearer like this > (uppercase to show changes): > > To do this, GTSpotter offers an extra action: diving in a RESULTS > category. Pressing Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection OF RESULTS > OF that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside the > category. > > So then, my suggestion for a legend at the bottom of the results list > would be: > Cmd+Shift+ArrowUp/ArrowDown = Next/Prev category, Cmd+RightArrow = Dive > into Result, Cmd+Shift+RightArrow = Dive into Category > > > On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:48, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Ok. Let's take it step by step and see if we cannot find a better way of > explaining. > > > > Take a look at the first picture in the blog post. Entering GTSpo shows > results both for Classes and for Packages. These "Classes" and "Packages" > are what we call search categories, and they have associated a query > processor that can populate them with results (see the "Spotting your > objects" section from the bottom of the post). > > > > In our case, we get 39 classes (of which only 5 are shown) and 1 package > that match the query. If you want to look at all those 39 classes, you can > dive in the whole collection behind the category in a separate step. This > is achieved through Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight. Does it make more sense now? > > > > I did not consider the category to be confusing. Would you propose > another name? > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> > wrote: > > Sorry, but no :-( > > > > I am always confused when people say ‘category’ because the word has so > many overloaded meanings. The same happens in the blog post, it is not > clear to me what category means here, and what does it have to do with the > collection object? > > > > > On Dec 7, 2014, at 11:16, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Yes, we will still evolve the UI. At the very least you will get the > shortkeys directly on the actions. > > > > > > The answer to your question is in the blog post: > > > GTSpotter offers an extra action: diving in a category. Pressing > Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection object containing only the > items from that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside > the category. > > > > > > So, you will open the collection of that sub-category and you will see > more items at once (not just 5). Is it clearer now? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Doru > > > > > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 8, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] New Pharo Collections

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Alexander, Thanks for your enthusiasm. Collections have indeed many rooms for improvement. Something that I always wanted to try out, is having a morphing abstract data type. You begin with let’s say an ordered collection, and according to what you put in, then it is morphing to a dictionary if necessary. The Lua programming language has this. Cheers, Alexandre > On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:18 PM, AlexanderBrenchev <alexzund3r(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > Greetings to everyone. My name is Alexander Brenchev, and I want to tell you > about my recent project, which will be my pre-bachelor work. > > The goal of my project is to make a new collections for Pharo Smalltalk. We > have a great plans about list of important collections, but we also need > your opinion about them. So, feel free to make your suggestions about > collections which you want to be implemented. > > The project page is available here > <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OBrenchev/NewPharoCollections> > > Now I want to tell something about what I've done so far: > > 1) A brief documentation about current collections hierarchy > <http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/brenchev/6a1y5kdcbxhpeh7nl52v7s5i3> > > 2) A workflow of developing new collections for Pharo > <http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/brenchev/6jxn656dns6gzhrno97bw5ktj> > > 3) Little tutorial which describes how to bring new collections for Pharo > <http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/brenchev/2v6tkm9e2s5xl8xikjg64278j> > > As you can see, PillarHub will be a platform for my blog, where I will tell > you about my faults and victories. > I have no great results for now, but I've tested the main idea of > collections development workflow, and now i am well-armed to make something > that really matters. Stay tuned to PillarHub, ESUG and smalltalkhub to see > the latest progress of the project. > > Thanks everyone. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-Pharo-Collections-tp4794762.html > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 8, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Johan Fabry

OK now I get it … thanks for clarifying! I think my confusion stems from the use of ‘category' and then talking about 'the collection object’, which made me think about collections and source code and protocols and packages and I got lost. I think that the sentence of the blog would be clearer like this (uppercase to show changes): To do this, GTSpotter offers an extra action: diving in a RESULTS category. Pressing Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection OF RESULTS OF that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside the category. So then, my suggestion for a legend at the bottom of the results list would be: Cmd+Shift+ArrowUp/ArrowDown = Next/Prev category, Cmd+RightArrow = Dive into Result, Cmd+Shift+RightArrow = Dive into Category > On Dec 8, 2014, at 12:48, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Ok. Let's take it step by step and see if we cannot find a better way of explaining. > > Take a look at the first picture in the blog post. Entering GTSpo shows results both for Classes and for Packages. These "Classes" and "Packages" are what we call search categories, and they have associated a query processor that can populate them with results (see the "Spotting your objects" section from the bottom of the post). > > In our case, we get 39 classes (of which only 5 are shown) and 1 package that match the query. If you want to look at all those 39 classes, you can dive in the whole collection behind the category in a separate step. This is achieved through Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight. Does it make more sense now? > > I did not consider the category to be confusing. Would you propose another name? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Sorry, but no :-( > > I am always confused when people say ‘category’ because the word has so many overloaded meanings. The same happens in the blog post, it is not clear to me what category means here, and what does it have to do with the collection object? > > > On Dec 7, 2014, at 11:16, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Yes, we will still evolve the UI. At the very least you will get the shortkeys directly on the actions. > > > > The answer to your question is in the blog post: > > GTSpotter offers an extra action: diving in a category. Pressing Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection object containing only the items from that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside the category. > > > > So, you will open the collection of that sub-category and you will see more items at once (not just 5). Is it clearer now? > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 8, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Ok. Let's take it step by step and see if we cannot find a better way of explaining. Take a look at the first picture in the blog post. Entering GTSpo shows results both for Classes and for Packages. These "Classes" and "Packages" are what we call search categories, and they have associated a query processor that can populate them with results (see the "Spotting your objects" section from the bottom of the post). In our case, we get 39 classes (of which only 5 are shown) and 1 package that match the query. If you want to look at all those 39 classes, you can dive in the whole collection behind the category in a separate step. This is achieved through Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight. Does it make more sense now? I did not consider the category to be confusing. Would you propose another name? Cheers, Doru On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Sorry, but no :-( > > I am always confused when people say ‘category’ because the word has so > many overloaded meanings. The same happens in the blog post, it is not > clear to me what category means here, and what does it have to do with the > collection object? > > > On Dec 7, 2014, at 11:16, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Yes, we will still evolve the UI. At the very least you will get the > shortkeys directly on the actions. > > > > The answer to your question is in the blog post: > > GTSpotter offers an extra action: diving in a category. Pressing > Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection object containing only the > items from that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside > the category. > > > > So, you will open the collection of that sub-category and you will see > more items at once (not just 5). Is it clearer now? > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 8, 2014

New Pharo Collections

by AlexanderBrenchev

Greetings to everyone. My name is Alexander Brenchev, and I want to tell you about my recent project, which will be my pre-bachelor work. The goal of my project is to make a new collections for Pharo Smalltalk. We have a great plans about list of important collections, but we also need your opinion about them. So, feel free to make your suggestions about collections which you want to be implemented. The project page is available here <http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OBrenchev/NewPharoCollections> Now I want to tell something about what I've done so far: 1) A brief documentation about current collections hierarchy <http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/brenchev/6a1y5kdcbxhpeh7nl52v7s5i3> 2) A workflow of developing new collections for Pharo <http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/brenchev/6jxn656dns6gzhrno97bw5ktj> 3) Little tutorial which describes how to bring new collections for Pharo <http://pillarhub.pharocloud.com/hub/brenchev/2v6tkm9e2s5xl8xikjg64278j> As you can see, PillarHub will be a platform for my blog, where I will tell you about my faults and victories. I have no great results for now, but I've tested the main idea of collections development workflow, and now i am well-armed to make something that really matters. Stay tuned to PillarHub, ESUG and smalltalkhub to see the latest progress of the project. Thanks everyone. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-Pharo-Collections-tp4794762.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 8, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Johan Fabry

Sorry, but no :-( I am always confused when people say ‘category’ because the word has so many overloaded meanings. The same happens in the blog post, it is not clear to me what category means here, and what does it have to do with the collection object? > On Dec 7, 2014, at 11:16, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Yes, we will still evolve the UI. At the very least you will get the shortkeys directly on the actions. > > The answer to your question is in the blog post: > GTSpotter offers an extra action: diving in a category. Pressing Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection object containing only the items from that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside the category. > > So, you will open the collection of that sub-category and you will see more items at once (not just 5). Is it clearer now? > > Cheers, > Doru ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 8, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Tudor Girba

Hi Christophe, On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Christophe Demarey < Christophe.Demarey(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi Doru and all, > > Great work. All these tools are really moving the development experience a > step forward :) > I will try it ASAP. > At this time, I just wonder if it is possible to search text in method > sources. It is often useful. > It's not done now, but you can just add it. It should probably take you a couple of minutes :). Just try to follow the instructions from the end of the post and let us know how it goes. > Another related thing I don't know how to do, is to refactor a set of > methods (could be some methods to 20 or more). In these methods, I send a > specific message. Now, I just want to remove the message implementation (it > is not a rename) and I have to update the code accordingly. Sometimes, I > could do that by just a search/replace (text) functionality (would be cool > to use patterns there) in methods source code but I cannot find a way do > that for now. So I do it by hand. > I wonder if it already exists a way to do that or if GTSpotter could > address this issue. > I think this is out of the direct realm of GTSpotter. But, it would be an interesting area nevertheless. We would likely be able to benefit from combining somehow RB rules with spotter. Cheers, Doru > Christophe. > > Le 7 déc. 2014 à 14:14, Tudor Girba a écrit : > > Hi, > > Alex Syrel, Andrei Chis and I are happy to announce a new addition to the > Glamorous Toolkit: > GTSpotter, a novel interface for spotting objects. > > GTSpotter has two goals: > - Provide a uniform yet moldable interface that can work on any object, and > - Handle searching through arbitrary levels of object nesting. > > We think this will have a significant impact on the development workflow > in Pharo. > > Here is a couple of screenshots: > <gtspotter-packages-classes.png> <gtspotter-dive-class-method-sender.png> > <gtspotter-playground.png> > > > A trailer is available here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSmjR3NOlU > > A detailed description is available here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/introducing-gtspotter > > It works already in Pharo 3.0 and can be played with by following the > instructions from: > http://gt.moosetechnology.org > > Please let us know what you think. > > Enjoy, > The Glamorous Team > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 8, 2014