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Re: [Esug-list] IWST event date and participant poll

by Christian Haider

Hi, here is a little table with the time zones. Christian Von: Esug-list <esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org> Im Auftrag von Martin McClure Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Oktober 2020 21:28 An: Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> Cc: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] IWST event date and participant poll Hi Serge, So if we were to schedule it just for the convenience you and I, it would happen at 01h in Paris. ;-) You are right that it's probably not possible to make it a convenient time for *everyone* that is interested. But getting information about how many attendees are in which time zones is useful for scheduling. And the presenters -- I certainly don't want any of *them* to have to be alert enough to give a good presentation in the middle of their night, just for my own convenience. Regards, -Martin On 10/22/20 10:09 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: Hi all, I think this will be difficult to find a correct time zone for everyone. I'm UTC+8, so doing it later than 4pm (Paris) will be very late for me (10pm). But I guess there are not that many attendees from Asia ;-) Regards, On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 12:29, Martin McClure <martin.mcclure(a)gemtalksystems.com <mailto:martin.mcclure@gemtalksystems.com> > wrote: It's good to hear that IWST is happening this year. I looked at the survey, but didn't send an answer. Any of the three days works for me, but the hours are a bit tough. They are rather early for those of us in the UTC-8 timezone. I'd be much more likely to attend if it was done on two days, 17h-19h Paris (8h-10h my local). I do understand that there are likely to be a lot more attendees from Europe than from the west coast of the US, but it would be nice to have some survey options for the later times to judge how much of an inconvenience that would be for the interested parties. Thanks, -Martin On 10/21/20 8:16 AM, Vincent Aranega wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As you probably noticed, due to the COVID situation and with ESUG > cancelled, IWST organization went late. We are happy to announce that > we are planning the remote event for mid-November. Each year IWST is > collocated with ESUG and we get a rough idea of the number of > participants, but this year we cannot rely on that. To get a good > estimation and ensure that a maximum of persons can enjoy the > presentations, we kindly ask you to answer the following poll before > the 27th of October: > > https://fast-poll.com/poll/28735962 > > Thanks to all of you, > > Vincent Aranega > Loïc Lagadec > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org> > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- Serge Stinckwic h https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich

Oct. 24, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] IWST event date and participant poll

by Martin McClure

Hi Serge, So if we were to schedule it just for the convenience you and I, it would happen at 01h in Paris. ;-) You are right that it's probably not possible to make it a convenient time for *everyone* that is interested. But getting information about how many attendees are in which time zones is useful for scheduling. And the presenters -- I certainly don't want any of *them* to have to be alert enough to give a good presentation in the middle of their night, just for my own convenience. Regards, -Martin On 10/22/20 10:09 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote: > Hi all, > > I think this will be difficult to find a correct time zone for everyone. > I'm UTC+8, so doing it later than 4pm (Paris) will be very late for me > (10pm). > But I guess there are not that many attendees from Asia ;-) > > Regards, > > On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 12:29, Martin McClure > <martin.mcclure(a)gemtalksystems.com > <mailto:martin.mcclure@gemtalksystems.com>> wrote: > > It's good to hear that IWST is happening this year. > > I looked at the survey, but didn't send an answer. Any of the > three days > works for me, but the hours are a bit tough. They are rather early > for > those of us in the UTC-8 timezone. I'd be much more likely to > attend if > it was done on two days, 17h-19h Paris (8h-10h my local). I do > understand that there are likely to be a lot more attendees from > Europe > than from the west coast of the US, but it would be nice to have some > survey options for the later times to judge how much of an > inconvenience > that would be for the interested parties. > > Thanks, > -Martin > > > On 10/21/20 8:16 AM, Vincent Aranega wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > As you probably noticed, due to the COVID situation and with ESUG > > cancelled, IWST organization went late. We are happy to announce > that > > we are planning the remote event for mid-November. Each year > IWST is > > collocated with ESUG and we get a rough idea of the number of > > participants, but this year we cannot rely on that. To get a good > > estimation and ensure that a maximum of persons can enjoy the > > presentations, we kindly ask you to answer the following poll > before > > the 27th of October: > > > > https://fast-poll.com/poll/28735962 > <https://fast-poll.com/poll/28735962> > > > > Thanks to all of you, > > > > Vincent Aranega > > Loïc Lagadec > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org> > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > <http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org> > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > <http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwic > h > https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich <https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich> > >

Oct. 23, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] IWST event date and participant poll

by Serge Stinckwich

Hi all, I think this will be difficult to find a correct time zone for everyone. I'm UTC+8, so doing it later than 4pm (Paris) will be very late for me (10pm). But I guess there are not that many attendees from Asia ;-) Regards, On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 12:29, Martin McClure < martin.mcclure(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > It's good to hear that IWST is happening this year. > > I looked at the survey, but didn't send an answer. Any of the three days > works for me, but the hours are a bit tough. They are rather early for > those of us in the UTC-8 timezone. I'd be much more likely to attend if > it was done on two days, 17h-19h Paris (8h-10h my local). I do > understand that there are likely to be a lot more attendees from Europe > than from the west coast of the US, but it would be nice to have some > survey options for the later times to judge how much of an inconvenience > that would be for the interested parties. > > Thanks, > -Martin > > > On 10/21/20 8:16 AM, Vincent Aranega wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > As you probably noticed, due to the COVID situation and with ESUG > > cancelled, IWST organization went late. We are happy to announce that > > we are planning the remote event for mid-November. Each year IWST is > > collocated with ESUG and we get a rough idea of the number of > > participants, but this year we cannot rely on that. To get a good > > estimation and ensure that a maximum of persons can enjoy the > > presentations, we kindly ask you to answer the following poll before > > the 27th of October: > > > > https://fast-poll.com/poll/28735962 > > > > Thanks to all of you, > > > > Vincent Aranega > > Loïc Lagadec > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Serge Stinckwic h https://twitter.com/SergeStinckwich

Oct. 23, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] IWST event date and participant poll

by Vincent Aranega

Hi Martin, Thanks for your reply, you're right, the event could be done on two days. Let be honest, I did a mistake only considering UTC-7 timezone thinking that the event could start later than 14h Paris (15h or 16h), sorry about that. I'm not sure that I can modify the online poll, but I will propose a new one with these new options asap. I'm apologize in advance for the multiple emails and polls to answer to. Thanks for your help, Vincent 23 oct. 2020 06:29:11 Martin McClure <martin.mcclure(a)gemtalksystems.com>: > It's good to hear that IWST is happening this year. > > I looked at the survey, but didn't send an answer. Any of the three days works for me, but the hours are a bit tough. They are rather early for those of us in the UTC-8 timezone. I'd be much more likely to attend if it was done on two days, 17h-19h Paris (8h-10h my local). I do understand that there are likely to be a lot more attendees from Europe than from the west coast of the US, but it would be nice to have some survey options for the later times to judge how much of an inconvenience that would be for the interested parties. > > Thanks, > -Martin > > On 10/21/20 8:16 AM, Vincent Aranega wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> As you probably noticed, due to the COVID situation and with ESUG cancelled, IWST organization went late. We are happy to announce that we are planning the remote event for mid-November. Each year IWST is collocated with ESUG and we get a rough idea of the number of participants, but this year we cannot rely on that. To get a good estimation and ensure that a maximum of persons can enjoy the presentations, we kindly ask you to answer the following poll before the 27th of October: >> >> https://fast-poll.com/poll/28735962 >> >> Thanks to all of you, >> >> Vincent Aranega >> Loïc Lagadec >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Oct. 23, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] IWST event date and participant poll

by Martin McClure

It's good to hear that IWST is happening this year. I looked at the survey, but didn't send an answer. Any of the three days works for me, but the hours are a bit tough. They are rather early for those of us in the UTC-8 timezone. I'd be much more likely to attend if it was done on two days, 17h-19h Paris (8h-10h my local). I do understand that there are likely to be a lot more attendees from Europe than from the west coast of the US, but it would be nice to have some survey options for the later times to judge how much of an inconvenience that would be for the interested parties. Thanks, -Martin On 10/21/20 8:16 AM, Vincent Aranega wrote: > Hi everyone, > > As you probably noticed, due to the COVID situation and with ESUG > cancelled, IWST organization went late. We are happy to announce that > we are planning the remote event for mid-November. Each year IWST is > collocated with ESUG and we get a rough idea of the number of > participants, but this year we cannot rely on that. To get a good > estimation and ensure that a maximum of persons can enjoy the > presentations, we kindly ask you to answer the following poll before > the 27th of October: > > https://fast-poll.com/poll/28735962 > > Thanks to all of you, > > Vincent Aranega > Loïc Lagadec > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Oct. 23, 2020

IWST event date and participant poll

by Vincent Aranega

Hi everyone, As you probably noticed, due to the COVID situation and with ESUG cancelled, IWST organization went late. We are happy to announce that we are planning the remote event for mid-November. Each year IWST is collocated with ESUG and we get a rough idea of the number of participants, but this year we cannot rely on that. To get a good estimation and ensure that a maximum of persons can enjoy the presentations, we kindly ask you to answer the following poll before the 27th of October: https://fast-poll.com/poll/28735962 Thanks to all of you, Vincent Aranega Loïc Lagadec

Oct. 21, 2020

UK Smalltalk User Group Meeting - Wednesday, October 28th

by Giovanni Corriga

The next meeting of the UK Smalltalk User Group will be on Wednesday, October 28th. Alexandre Bergel will talk about Agile Visualization with Roassal3. Visualizing data is probably the easiest part in the field of data visualization. Numerous books and sophisticated libraries exist for that very purpose. One of challenges of data visualization is to identify the right abstractions that make a visualization reusable, composable, extensible, navigable, and produced at a very low cost. Roassal ( https://github.com/ObjectProfile/Roassal3 ) is a visualization engine for Smalltalk that leverage the experience of crafting and using data visualization. This talk will demo Roassal and presents non-trivial visualizations within the field of software visualization. Alexandre Bergel ( http://bergel.eu/ ) is Associate Professor and researcher at the University of Chile. Alexandre Bergel and his collaborators carry out research in software engineering. His focus is on designing tools and methodologies to improve the overall performance and internal quality of software systems, by employing profiling, visualization, and artificial intelligence techniques. Alexandre Bergel has authored over 140 articles, published in international and peer reviewed scientific forums, including the most competitive conferences and journals in the field of software engineering. Alexandre has participated to over 140 program committees of international events. Alexandre has also a strong interest in applying his research results to industry. Several of his research prototypes have been turned into products and adopted by major companies in the semi-conductor industry and certification of critical software systems. Alexandre is member of the editorial board of Empirical Software Engineering. Alexandre authored the book Agile Artificial Intelligence in Pharo, Agile Visualization ( http://agilevisualization.com/ ), and co-authored the book Deep Into Pharo. Given the current COVID-19 restrictions, this will be an online meeting from home. If you'd like to join us, please sign up in advance on the meeting's Meetup page ( https://www.meetup.com/UKSTUG/events/cbklbrybcnblc/ ) to receive the meeting details. Don’t forget to bring your laptop and drinks!

Oct. 14, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] Some interesting - and slightly inaccurate - writing on Smalltalk

by David Mason

Quite interesting, but perhaps the most useful part was the link to Bret Victors’ refs: http://worrydream.com/refs/ One could spend fruitful days reading many of these articles! ../Dave On Oct 11, 2020, 5:08 PM -0400, Craig Latta <craig(a)blackpagedigital.com>, wrote: > > Thanks, Joseph! > > > -C > > *** > > On 11/10/20 10:17, Joseph Pelrine wrote: > > > https://deprogrammaticaipsum.com/issue-25-smalltalk/ > > > > Best regards > > Joseph > > -- > Craig Latta :: research computer scientist > Black Page Digital :: Berkeley, California > 663137D7940BF5C0AFC 1349FB2ADA32C4D5314CE > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Oct. 12, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] Some interesting - and slightly inaccurate - writing on Smalltalk

by Craig Latta

Thanks, Joseph! -C *** On 11/10/20 10:17, Joseph Pelrine wrote: > https://deprogrammaticaipsum.com/issue-25-smalltalk/ > > Best regards > Joseph -- Craig Latta :: research computer scientist Black Page Digital :: Berkeley, California 663137D7940BF5C0AFC 1349FB2ADA32C4D5314CE

Oct. 11, 2020

Some interesting - and slightly inaccurate - writing on Smalltalk

by Joseph Pelrine

https://deprogrammaticaipsum.com/issue-25-smalltalk/ Best regards Joseph

Oct. 11, 2020