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Fund rising for the new Spec20 book

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hello Pharoers and Smalltalk Friends Often you or other complain that there is not enough documentation, tutorials…. (even if we have a mooc worth 155 K euros http://mooc.pharo.org <http://mooc.pharo.org/>, several great books http://book.pharo.org <http://book.pharo.org/>), but yes we should update them. Now I started to work on a new book on Spec 20 with Cyril Ferlicot and I decided that I will not write it for free because it will take me at least 6 months. So I decided that if this community wants more books and documentation, it should prove its will :) I created a fundraising campaign to check if people can align their wishes and their means. So feel free to sponsor this great book. Building user interfaces with spec 20 – https://www.okpal.com/building-user-interfaces-with-spec/?utm_campaign=01DK… <https://www.okpal.com/building-user-interfaces-with-spec/?utm_campaign=01DK…> Organisations can also do it. BTW: the crowd funding system and other cost will cost us 10% and after we will pay taxes on this. So I prefer not to count our hour cost because else I would really not write a book at all. Stef -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Sept. 3, 2019

Fwd: [Pharo-dev] Seasidehosting will be shut down

by Stéphane Ducasse

Thanks netstyle for this service. It was great! Stef > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "Max Leske" <maxleske(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Pharo-dev] Seasidehosting will be shut down > Date: 2 September 2019 at 07:47:15 CEST > To: "Seaside - developer list" <seaside-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, "Seaside - general discussion" <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, "The general-purpose Squeak developers list" <squeak-dev(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org>, "Pharo Development List" <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > Reply-To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > > Hi everyone, > > I'm announcing the shutdown of the seasidehosting platform. We will keep it running until the end of September so that people can retrieve their data. Seasidehosting will stop serving requests on October 1 2019. > > > Cheers, > Max > > > on behalf of Netstyle.ch > -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Sept. 2, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] [Moose-dev] Re: Moose meeting @ESUG19?

by Martin Dias

I'm in too On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:33 AM Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > Yes! Good idea! > > I am in! > > Alexandre > > > On Aug 28, 2019, at 3:58 AM, Anne Etien <anne.etien(a)univ-lille.fr> > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I would like to organise a meeting around Moose at ESUG19, to explain > you what we have done this year, where we are going and discuss with you > what you are expecting and how you can contribute. > > If we are enough, we can do that either today (Wednesday) just after > lunch at 13h or tomorrow Thursday after show us your project. > > Can you please say if you want to attend and which date you are > available? > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Anne > > _______________________________________________ > > Moose-dev mailing list > > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >

Aug. 28, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] [Moose-dev] Re: Moose meeting @ESUG19?

by Benoît Verhaeghe

Ok for today Le mer. 28 août 2019 à 10:06, Jannik Laval <Jannik.Laval(a)univ-lyon2.fr> a écrit : > Yesss, > > For today > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Enseignant-chercheur > Responsable Pédagogique Licence Coordonnateur de Projet > IUT Lumière, Université Lumière Lyon 2 > laboratoire DISP > +33 4 78 77 43 06 > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > > Le 28 août 2019 à 09:58, Anne Etien <anne.etien(a)univ-lille.fr> a écrit : > > Hi, > > I would like to organise a meeting around Moose at ESUG19, to explain you > what we have done this year, where we are going and discuss with you what > you are expecting and how you can contribute. > If we are enough, we can do that either today (Wednesday) just after lunch > at 13h or tomorrow Thursday after show us your project. > Can you please say if you want to attend and which date you are available? > Thanks in advance. > > Anne > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)list.inf.unibe.ch > https://www.list.inf.unibe.ch/listinfo/moose-dev >

Aug. 28, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] GemStone BOF @ ESUG, Wednesday 16:45 - 17:45

by Norm Green

The location of the BOF will be in the rear courtyard area beside the main presentation room. Let's plan to start at 16:45 to give people time to walk back from room B. --Norm On 8/25/2019 3:51 AM, Martin McClure wrote: > There will be a GemStone Birds of a Feather session, open to all who > are using or interested in GemStone Smalltalk, at 16:30 on Wednesday. > > The exact location will be announced once we know what is available at > that time. > > Regards, > -Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Aug. 26, 2019

GemStone BOF @ ESUG, Wednesday 16:30 - 17:30

by Martin McClure

There will be a GemStone Birds of a Feather session, open to all who are using or interested in GemStone Smalltalk, at 16:30 on Wednesday. The exact location will be announced once we know what is available at that time. Regards, -Martin

Aug. 25, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructureL at least

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 23.08.2019 um 22:08 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: > > SQL and NOSQL both interesting. NOSQL at least dynamically typed, I think. > > And just so others don’t need to track it down, Camp Smalltalk is at ZWEIDENKER, Luxemburger Str. 72, 50674 Köln > You don‘t need to track it down. Just read it from https://esug.github.io/2019-Conference/camp2019.html Norbert > ../Dave >> On Aug 23, 2019, 2:00 PM -0400, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>, wrote: >> And just for the record. I wasn‘t talking more about NoSQL (mongo queries, AQL). Not sure the difference is big >> >>> Am 23.08.2019 um 19:47 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: >>> >>> I’ll probably be at the Stadtgarden around 14:30 Saturday and early Sunday and will start working on this whenever anyone else shows up and is interested in working on it. There seem to be at least 4 people besides me. >>> >>> Known targets for transpilation include: >>> Javascript - PharoJS - working - dynamically typed, strange numeric stack - IWST papers describing mapping >>> JVM - PharoJVM - partial - statically typed, instance OO - IWST paper last year describing mapping >>> Illicium - ?working - statically typed, structs/unions - IWST paper this year >>> Python - dynamically typed, OO >>> SQL? - ? typed >>> >>> So lots of variation to think about. Would be nice for all of the above to subclass a generic transpiler. See my earlier message for other considerations >>> >>> ../Dave >>> On 21.08.2019 at 18:18 David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript >>>> I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM >>>> I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C >>>> There may be other transpires…. >>>> >>>> I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too. >>

Aug. 23, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructureL at least

by David Mason

SQL and NOSQL both interesting. NOSQL at least dynamically typed, I think. And just so others don’t need to track it down, Camp Smalltalk is at ZWEIDENKER, Luxemburger Str. 72, 50674 Köln ../Dave On Aug 23, 2019, 2:00 PM -0400, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name>, wrote: > And just for the record. I wasn‘t talking more about NoSQL (mongo queries, AQL). Not sure the difference is big > > > Am 23.08.2019 um 19:47 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: > > > > I’ll probably be at the Stadtgarden around 14:30 Saturday and early Sunday and will start working on this whenever anyone else shows up and is interested in working on it. There seem to be at least 4 people besides me. > > > > Known targets for transpilation include: > > Javascript - PharoJS - working - dynamically typed, strange numeric stack - IWST papers describing mapping > > JVM - PharoJVM - partial - statically typed, instance OO - IWST paper last year describing mapping > > Illicium - ?working - statically typed, structs/unions - IWST paper this year > > Python - dynamically typed, OO > > SQL? - ? typed > > > > So lots of variation to think about. Would be nice for all of the above to subclass a generic transpiler. See my earlier message for other considerations > > > > ../Dave > > On 21.08.2019 at 18:18 David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: > > > > > I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript > > > I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM > > > I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C > > > There may be other transpires…. > > > > > > I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too. >

Aug. 23, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructure

by Norbert Hartl

And just for the record. I wasn‘t talking more about NoSQL (mongo queries, AQL). Not sure the difference is big > Am 23.08.2019 um 19:47 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: > > I’ll probably be at the Stadtgarden around 14:30 Saturday and early Sunday and will start working on this whenever anyone else shows up and is interested in working on it. There seem to be at least 4 people besides me. > > Known targets for transpilation include: > Javascript - PharoJS - working - dynamically typed, strange numeric stack - IWST papers describing mapping > JVM - PharoJVM - partial - statically typed, instance OO - IWST paper last year describing mapping > Illicium - ?working - statically typed, structs/unions - IWST paper this year > Python - dynamically typed, OO > SQL? - ? typed > > So lots of variation to think about. Would be nice for all of the above to subclass a generic transpiler. See my earlier message for other considerations > > ../Dave > On 21.08.2019 at 18:18 David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: > >> I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript >> I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM >> I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C >> There may be other transpires…. >> >> I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too.

Aug. 23, 2019

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk project - transpiler infrastructure

by Norbert Hartl

Ok, but don‘t go to Stadtgarten on saturday and sunday. Camp Smalltalk is at our office. Norbert > Am 23.08.2019 um 19:47 schrieb David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca>: > > I’ll probably be at the Stadtgarden around 14:30 Saturday and early Sunday and will start working on this whenever anyone else shows up and is interested in working on it. There seem to be at least 4 people besides me. > > Known targets for transpilation include: > Javascript - PharoJS - working - dynamically typed, strange numeric stack - IWST papers describing mapping > JVM - PharoJVM - partial - statically typed, instance OO - IWST paper last year describing mapping > Illicium - ?working - statically typed, structs/unions - IWST paper this year > Python - dynamically typed, OO > SQL? - ? typed > > So lots of variation to think about. Would be nice for all of the above to subclass a generic transpiler. See my earlier message for other considerations > > ../Dave > On 21.08.2019 at 18:18 David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: > >> I’m one of the principals for PharoJS which transpires from Smalltalk to Javascript >> I’m the creator of PharoJVM which (is getting to) transpiling Smalltalk to JVM >> I know there is new Pharo work on transpiling to C >> There may be other transpires…. >> >> I think it would be good to work on a common transpiration structure that we can all extend. Ideally it should have pluggable targets, pluggable type inference, etc. but common parsing, management of classes to include, mocking of builtins, etc. I’d love for it to hook up with Live Types, too.

Aug. 23, 2019