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‹Programming› 2020 : Call for Participation
by Fabio Niephaus
‹Programming› 2020 : The Art, Science, and Engineering of Programming
March 23-26, 2020, Porto, Portugal
https://2020.programming-conference.org
The International Conference on the Art, Science, and Engineering of
Programming is a new conference focused on programming topics
including the experience of programming. We have named it
‹Programming› for short.
The conference is co-located with several workshops, a poster and a
demo session, a Coding Dojo, and the student research competition.
Keynote
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Guy L. Steele Jr. (Oracle Labs)
Workshops
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Convivial Computing Salon
https://2020.programming-conference.org/home/salon-2020
ENIAC’20
https://2020.programming-conference.org/home/eniac-2020
ICW
https://2020.programming-conference.org/home/icw-2020
MoreVMs’20
https://2020.programming-conference.org/home/MoreVMs-2020
NIP
https://2020.programming-conference.org/home/nip-2020
PX/20
https://2020.programming-conference.org/home/px-2020
ProWeb’20
https://2020.programming-conference.org/home/proweb-2020
CoCoDo 2020
https://2020.programming-conference.org/home/cocodo-2020
Tutorials
---------
https://2020.programming-conference.org/track/programming-2020-tutorials
AntidoteDB : Just the Right Kind of Consistency!
Bela Workshop
Learning Haskell: a project-based approach
Meta-Programming for the masses
PharoIoT
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ORGANIZATION
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General Chair
Ademar Aguiar, Universidade do Porto
Program Chair
Stefan Marr, University of Kent
Organizing Committee
https://2020.programming-conference.org/committee/programming-2020-organizi…
Program Committee
https://2020.programming-conference.org/committee/programming-2020-papers-p…
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SUPPORTERS
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ACM In-Cooperation
Universidade do Porto
City of Porto
AOSA
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For more information, visit https://2020.programming-conference.org
Dec. 8, 2019
Postdoc "Advanced and extendable tools and virtual machines for debugging"
by Stéphane Ducasse
Hello,
we have an open post-doc position in the RMoD team, Inria Lille - Nord Europe on the following topic:
Advanced and extendable tools and virtual machines for debugging.
Level of qualifications required : PhD or equivalent
Starting date : ASAP
Duration of contract : 1 year, 6 months
Town/city : Villeneuve d'Ascq
Inria Center : CRI Lille - Nord Europe <http://www.inria.fr/centre/lille>
To apply: https://jobs.inria.fr/public/classic/en/offres/2019-02204 <https://jobs.inria.fr/public/classic/en/offres/2019-02204>
Contact:
Steven Costiou, steven.costiou(a)inria.fr <mailto:steven.costiou@inria.fr>
Stéphane Ducasse, stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>
Please find the detailed job offer below and attached to this mail.
Best Regards,
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Steven Costiou
Researcher, RMoD/Inria
https://kloum.io/costiou/ <https://kloum.io/costiou/>
=========Detailed job offer=========
Context
Debuggers are applications that users use to debug other applications. Lots of tools provide users with a large variety of debugging capabilities. However several aspects of the debugging activity are poorly covered by scientific and technical state-of-the-art. For example, it is still very hard to debug concurrent or parallel systems.
It is also not very clear how to implement advanced debugging tools such as back-in-time debuggers, or what support should a run-time infrastructure (e.g., a virtual machine) provide for advanced debugging.
Finally, often tools are inflexible and cannot be adapted to specific domain or projects. New generation tools should not only support the developers customising tools to their own workflow and domain, but also be dynamically activated even if the virtual machine does not support them. Therefore, virtual machines should also be extendable with new, user-defined primitives and support for debugging.
Results will be submitted to international conferences and journals and an effort will be put to produce systems that can be used by (normal) developers so that user experiences provide real data.
The work will happen in collaboration between Inria Lille (RMOD team) and Vrije Universitat Brussels (SOFT lab).
Assignment
Objectives
The goal of this Postdoc is to build new advanced debuggers to explore and experiment one or more of the following topics:
Back-in-time and scriptable debuggers
How to build back-in-time debuggers?
What abstractions do we need to take advantage of back-in-time debuggers? (scripting, DSLs…)
How can users extend, customise and enhance their debugger?
(following PhD of A. Chis on Moldable Tools and the work of T. Dupriez on scriptable debuggers)
Extendable virtual machines for advanced debugging support
What primitives do we need from the virtual machine to support advanced debugging tools?
(back-in-time debuggers, object-centric debuggers, etc.)
How can users create new debugging primitives and enable them on-demand when a particular bug happens and requires investigation without restarting the program?
Advanced debuggers for concurrency
How can we track specific objects in a concurrent execution and how this capability helps in debugging concurrent programs?
(following the PhD of S. Costiou on unanticipated object-centric debugging)
What are and how to express object-centric debugging queries on the flow of objects, shared by concurrent processes?
Can we leverage Dynamic Software Update techniques to safely instrument running concurrent programs with advanced debugging instrumentation?
(following the PhD of P. Tesone on DSU for live and production environments)
Support for debugging tools
Can we use type inferencers to ease the design of debugging tools and limit their impact on performance and memory on dynamic languages runtimes?
(following work on RoelTyper and PhD of L. Spoon on type inference)
References:
Thomas Dupriez, Guillermo Polito, Steven Costiou, Vincent Aranega, and Stéphane Ducasse. 2019. Sindarin: a versatile scripting API for the Pharo debugger. In Proceedings of the 15th ACM SIGPLAN International Symposium on Dynamic Languages (DLS 2019).
Pablo Tesone, Guillermo Polito, Noury Bouraqadi, Stéphane Ducasse, Luc Fabresse. Dynamic Software Update from Development to Production. The Journal of Object Technology, Chair of Software Engineering, 2018
Steven Costiou, Mickaël Kerboeuf, Alain Plantec, and Marcus Denker. 2018. Collectors. In Conference Companion of the 2nd International Conference on Art, Science, and Engineering of Programming (Programming'18 Companion).
Matteo Marra, Elisa Gonzalez Boix, Steven Costiou, Mickaël Kerboeuf, Alain Plantec, Guillermo Polito, and Stéphane Ducasse. 2017. Debugging Cyber-Physical Systems with Pharo: An Experience Report. In Proceedings of the 12th edition of the International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies (IWST '17).
A. Chis, T.Girba, Tudor and O. Nierstrasz, The Moldable Debugger: A Framework for Developing Domain-Specific Debuggers, Software Language Engineering, 2014.
Lienhard, Girba, Nierstrasz: Practical Object-Oriented Back-in-Time Debugging, Proceeding ECOOP '08.
Proksch, Sebastian ; Lerch, Johannes ; Mezini, Mira : Intelligent Code Completion with Bayesian Networks. http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/2744200 <http://doi.acm.org/10.1145/2744200> ACM Transactions on Software Engineering and Methodology (TOSEM), 25 (1) 3:1-3:31. 2015
C. Hofer, M. Denker and S. Ducasse, Design and Implementation of a Backward-In-Time Debugger, Node 06, 2006.
S. A. Spoon and O. Shivers, Demand-Driven Type Inference with Subgoal pruning: Trading Precision for Scalability, Proceedings of ECOOP'04, 2004
Main activities
The plan is to:
Join the team work around debugging, that includes 3 researchers and 1 phd student
Survey the key developer activities
Define new model and enhance current
Realize prototypes, possibly using Pharo
Run validation with real end-users
Publish results in top venues
Skills
Technical skills and level required
OOP, TDD
Reflective programming
Program transformation
Language
English
Relational skills
Good team work skills
Other valued appreciated
Knowledge of the Pharo language is a plus
A strong interest about debugging and/or dynamic languages is also appreciated
Benefits package
Subsidized meals
Partial reimbursement of public transport costs
Leave: 7 weeks of annual leave + 10 extra days off due to RTT (statutory reduction in working hours) + possibility of exceptional leave (sick children, moving home, etc.)
Possibility of teleworking (after 6 months of employment) and flexible organization of working hours
Professional equipment available (videoconferencing, loan of computer equipment, etc.)
Social, cultural and sports events and activities
Access to vocational training
Remuneration
Gross monthly salary (before taxes) : 2 653
RMOD
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The goal of RMoD is to support remodularization and development of modular object-oriented applications. We tackle this objective from two complementary perspectives: reengineering, and constructs for dynamic languages. In the context of languages, we revisit language concepts such as modules and composition; we are also working on a new generation of reflective systems. We experiment with these programming constructs using Pharo, an open source, reflective, object-oriented language. http://rmod.inria.fr <http://rmod.inria.fr/>
About the research centre or Inria department
The Inria Lille - Nord Europe Research Centre was founded in 2008 and employs a staff of 360, including 300 scientists working in sixteen research teams. Recognised for its outstanding contribution to the socio-economic development of the Hauts-De-France région, the Inria Lille - Nord Europe Research Centre undertakes research in the field of computer science in collaboration with a range of academic, institutional and industrial partners.
The strategy of the Centre is to develop an internationally renowned centre of excellence with a significant impact on the City of Lille and its surrounding area. It works to achieve this by pursuing a range of ambitious research projects in such fields of computer science as the intelligence of data and adaptive software systems. Building on the synergies between research and industry, Inria is a major contributor to skills and technology transfer in the field of computer science.
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Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Julie Jonas
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
Dec. 7, 2019
Designing a Visual Enviroment (potentially with Pharo)
by Stéphane Ducasse
Hi guys
Please distribute widely
> "VisualArc, an SF-based startup, is looking to hire a team to build a next-generation visual programming environment using Smalltalk. The intention behind the company is to make programming much easier to learn through data visualization, and we are targeting enterprises who are teaching employees how to program. We are primarily looking for a technical co-founder / CTO at the moment, but we are open to speaking with anyone who might be interested in working on this project. If you are interested in Smalltalk, visual programming, data visualization or programming education, we would love to hear from you! If you would like to learn more about this project, email VisualArc CEO Bobby Lancaster at bobby.lancaster(a)gmail.com <mailto:bobby.lancaster@gmail.com>.
Stef
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Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Julie Jonas
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
Nov. 30, 2019
ECOOP'20 Berlin - Call for Papers
by Fabio Niephaus
============================================================
The 34th Edition of ECOOP
Call for Papers
13th-17th July 2020
Berlin, Germany
https://2020.ecoop.org/
============================================================
ECOOP is a conference about programming. Originally its primary focus
was on object orientation, but now it looks at a much broader range of
programming topics. Areas of interest include, at least, the design,
implementation, optimization, analysis, and theory of programs,
programming languages, and programming environments. It solicits both
innovative and creative solutions to real problems as well as
evaluations of existing solutions—evaluations that provide new
insights. It also encourages the submission of reproduction studies.
ECOOP 2020 solicits high-quality submissions describing original,
unpublished results.
The program committee will evaluate the technical contribution of each
submission as well as its general relevance and accessibility to the
ECOOP audience according to the following criteria:
- Originality. Papers must present new ideas and place them
appropriately within the context established by previous research in
the field.
- Significance. The results in the paper must have the potential to
add significantly to the state of the art or practice.
- Evidence. The paper must present evidence supporting its claims.
Examples of evidence include implemented systems, experimental
results, statistical analyses, case studies, formalizations, and
proofs.
- Clarity. The paper must present its contributions and results
clearly.
On submission, authors will be asked to identify their paper with one
of the following categories:
- Research Paper. This is the most traditional category and solicits
high quality research papers that demonstrate advances in the field.
(As an alternative to being published in the conference proceedings,
authors may wish to submit research papers to be considered for
publication in ACM TOPLAS or Science of Computer Programming.)
- Tool Insights Paper. These submissions focus on the practical
details of the design and implementation of PL tools—details that
are often omitted from regular research papers, despite being
fascinating and worthy of communication. A strong Tool Insights
Paper should communicate engineering experience and insights that
are likely to be useful to other members of the PL community, who
may face similar problems in future. Examples of issues that Tool
Insights Papers might focus on include, but are not limited to:
performance, reliability, portability, inter-tool integration,
infrastructure re-use, evaluation issues, theory/practice gaps,
precision/efficiency, and soundness/efficiency trade-offs.
- Reproduction Study. A Reproduction Study is an empirical evaluation.
It reconstructs an already published experiment but in a different
context (for example, using a different virtual machine or platform,
or in a different class of applications) in order to validate or
refute important results of earlier work. A good Reproduction Study
includes thorough empirical evaluation as well as a detailed
comparison with the previous results, providing reasons for possible
disagreements. (A thoroughly-conducted Reproduction Study that
perfectly replicates an existing experiment and reaches the same
conclusions will be regarded as significant, so long as said
experiment is significant enough to be worthy of reproduction.)
- Experience Report. Such reports focus on noteworthy applications of
known PL techniques, tools, and ideas in interesting domains and by
other communities. Examples include, but are not limited to,
applications of PL techniques in industry, open source, education,
and other academic disciplines. We welcome reports on successful
applications of PL ideas and reports that shed light on limitations
and problems that may provide inspiration for future research.
- Pearl. This category solicits articles that explain a known idea in
a new and elegant way, to the benefit of the PL community. A Pearl
may well be shorter than a regular research paper, but there is no
hard requirement on this.
- Brave New Idea. The Brave New Idea category solicits forward-looking
articles on ideas in the field of PL that may take some time to
substantiate, but for which early communication to the community is
likely to be of benefit. For this category we welcome papers that
are particularly conceptually novel or unconventional and that as a
result may be harder to back up by traditional evaluation methods. A
Brave New Idea paper may well be shorter than a regular research
paper, but there is no requirement for it to be so.
Paper Submission
================
Only papers that have not been published and are not under review for
publication elsewhere may be submitted. Double submissions will be
rejected without review. If major parts of an ECOOP submission have
appeared elsewhere in any form, authors are required to notify the
ECOOP program chair and explain the overlap and relationship. Authors
are also required to inform the program chair about closely related
work submitted to another conference while the ECOOP submission is
under review.
Papers must be no longer than 25 pages, excluding references. See
below for information about appendices. Authors will not be penalized
for papers that are shorter than the page limit.
Submissions will be carried out electronically via the conference
website [1].
ECOOP Proceedings are published by Dagstuhl LIPIcs. Papers must be
written in English and follow the Dagstuhl LIPIcs LaTeX-style
template [2]. Authors retain ownership of their content.
Note: Submitted papers do not need to include the ACM classification
or keywords. Also, please DO NOT put your name in either the \author
or \Copyright macro, in order to maintain anonymity for double-blind
reviewing (see below).
Anonymity
=========
ECOOP will use light double-blind reviewing: authors’ identities are
withheld until a reviewer submits his or her review (as usual, reviews
are anonymous). To facilitate this, submitted papers must adhere to
two rules:
- Author names and institutions must be omitted.
- References to authors’ own other work should be in the third person
(for example, not “We build on our previous work…” but rather “We
build on the work of…”).
When in doubt, contact the Program Chair.
Additional Material
===================
Clearly marked additional appendices containing analyses, statistics,
supporting proofs, etc. of possible value to reviewers but not
published in the final publication, may be included beyond the page
limit. The submission system provides an option to submit
supplementary material; for example, a technical report including
proofs, or web pages and repositories that cannot easily be
anonymized. This supplementary material will be made available to
reviewers after the initial reviews have been completed, when author
names are revealed.
Reviewers are under no obligation to examine such appendices and
supplementary material. Therefore, the paper must be a stand-alone
document - the appendices and supplementary material are a way of
providing useful information that cannot fit in the page limit; they
are not a means to extend the page limit.
Authors of papers that have been submitted but not accepted by
previous conferences may optionally submit a Note to Reviewers. The
Note to Reviewers should provide the following information:
- the identity of the previous venue(s) (for example, ESOP 2020,
‹Programming› 2020, POPL 2020, OOPSLA 2019)
- a list the major issues identified by the reviews at those venues
- a description of the changes made to the paper in response to those
reviews
These notes will be made available to reviewers after their initial
reviews have been completed and author names have been revealed.
Response Period
===============
Authors will be given a three-day period to read and respond to the
reviews of their papers before the program committee meeting.
Responses have no formal length limit, but concision is likely to be
effective.
Artifact Evaluation
===================
To reward the creation of artifacts and support replication of
experiments, authors of accepted research papers may submit artifacts
(such as tools, data, models, or videos) to be evaluated by an
Artifact Evaluation Committee. Artifacts that pass muster will be
recognized officially.
Important Dates
===============
- Paper submission: 10 January 2020 (Fri)
- Author response: 16–18 March 2020 (Mon-Wed)
- Author notification: 8 April 2020 (Wed)
Journal First
=============
We have Journal First arrangements with ACM Transactions on
Programming Languages and Systems and Elsevier Science of Computer
Programming.
Common to both routes
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Only new research papers are eligible for the Journal First routes to
ECOOP 2020. That is, it is not acceptable to submit an extension of a
previous conference paper, even if the associated journal solicits
extended papers via its standard submission route.
Authors of all accepted Journal First papers will be invited to submit
a short abstract for their paper to appear in the ECOOP 2020
conference proceedings.
Journal First papers will be included along with research papers
submitted directly to the conference when a Distinguished Paper is
selected.
Science of Computer Programming route
-------------------------------------
See this dedicated web page [3] for full details of how to submit to
the ECOOP 2020 Science of Computer Programming (SCP) special issue.
Submission deadline: December 2, 2019 (Mon)
ACM Transactions on Programming Languages and Systems route
-----------------------------------------------------------
See this announcement [4] for details of the TOPLAS scheme whereby
papers submitted to TOPLAS can be presented at selected conferences.
Authors interested in this route should submit their paper to TOPLAS
via its usual submission system and mark it as an ECOOP 2020
submission. The ECOOP Program Chair will then be informed of this
submission and will have some input into the review process.
Submission deadline: October 10, 2019 (Thu)
More Information
================
For additional information, please contact the ECOOP Program Chair,
Robert Hirschfeld [5].
[1] https://2020.ecoop.org/track/ecoop-2020-papers
[2] https://www.dagstuhl.de/en/publications/lipics/instructions-for-authors/
[3] https://www.journals.elsevier.com/science-of-computer-programming/call-for-…
[4] https://toplas.acm.org/announcements.cfm#submit-a-paper-for-pldi-2016
[5] https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/people/hirschfeld/
Nov. 29, 2019
Smalltalk meetup end of January?
by Alexandre Bergel
Dear Smalltalkers,
A nice delegation of Smalltalkers from Chile and Bolivia will be in San Francisco and the Bay Area at the end of January 2019. We are currently sensing the Smalltalk community to organize a meetup. The goal is to meet, discuss about Smalltalk, do some presentations, demonstrations, and have fun.
We have prepared a google form for people interested in it: https://forms.gle/aZ4z5T7nvXttw5Rj6
If you feel like to meet, then please answer before Wednesday 4, December 2019.
Cheers,
Alexandre
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Nov. 28, 2019
Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
by Stéphane Ducasse
Alex
the organising team will certainly help to set up some shuttle from the airport.
I did it in the past.
Stef
> On 26 Nov 2019, at 15:41, Gordana Rakic <goca(a)dmi.uns.ac.rs <mailto:goca@dmi.uns.ac.rs>> wrote:
>
> Hi Alexandre,
>
> Yes, you can fly to Belgrade, and then Novi Sad is 70km to the north from the airport. The best option will be to organize airport transfer or shuttle services for participants, because like that you do not have to go to Belgrade first.
> Another option is to go to Belgrade bus station and take a bus to Novi Sad which will take another for 1-1.5 hours. The railway is closed for renovation until 2021 or so ☹
>
> However, you can also fly to Budapest and there is another shuttle service which is around 25EUR and lasts for 3-4 hours to Novi Sad depending on the border.
>
> You will see, it is really easy to reach Novi Sad, but we are here to help you.
>
> Welcome!
> Gordana
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Esug-list <esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org>> On Behalf Of Alexandre Bergel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 3:22 PM
> To: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>>
> Cc: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
>
> Just wondering, the way to go is via Belgrade. Then, there is a train to NoviSad.
> Can someone confirm this please?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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>
>
>> On 24-11-2019, at 09:45, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr <mailto:stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> we are happy to confirm that ESUG will happen in NoviSad from 31.8. – 4.9. 2020
>>
>> S.
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Stéphane Ducasse
>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/>
>> 03 59 35 87 52
>> Assistant: Julie Jonas
>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
>> S. Ducasse - Inria
>> 40, avenue Halley,
>> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
>> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
>> France
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Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr <http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/> / http://www.pharo.org <http://www.pharo.org/>
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Julie Jonas
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley,
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France
Nov. 26, 2019
Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
by Stéphane Ducasse
Alex
the organising team will certainly help to set up some shuttle from the airport.
I did it in the past.
Stef
> On 26 Nov 2019, at 15:41, Gordana Rakic <goca(a)dmi.uns.ac.rs> wrote:
>
> Hi Alexandre,
>
> Yes, you can fly to Belgrade, and then Novi Sad is 70km to the north from the airport. The best option will be to organize airport transfer or shuttle services for participants, because like that you do not have to go to Belgrade first.
> Another option is to go to Belgrade bus station and take a bus to Novi Sad which will take another for 1-1.5 hours. The railway is closed for renovation until 2021 or so ☹
>
> However, you can also fly to Budapest and there is another shuttle service which is around 25EUR and lasts for 3-4 hours to Novi Sad depending on the border.
>
> You will see, it is really easy to reach Novi Sad, but we are here to help you.
>
> Welcome!
> Gordana
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Esug-list <esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org> On Behalf Of Alexandre Bergel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 3:22 PM
> To: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>
> Cc: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
>
> Just wondering, the way to go is via Belgrade. Then, there is a train to NoviSad.
> Can someone confirm this please?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
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>> On 24-11-2019, at 09:45, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> we are happy to confirm that ESUG will happen in NoviSad from 31.8. – 4.9. 2020
>>
>> S.
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Stéphane Ducasse
>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
>> 03 59 35 87 52
>> Assistant: Julie Jonas
>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
>> S. Ducasse - Inria
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Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
by Sasa Prokic
Hi Alexandre,
That is correct. You can take a train or bus from Belgrade to Novi Sad. I will be spending the summer in Belgrade so I can be arround for you guys if needed. Btw, you should try to plan a day in Belgrade if possible. Would be pitty just to pass it through.
Cheers,Sasha
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On Tue., 26 Nov. 2019 at 9:23 a.m., Alexandre Bergel<abergel(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: Just wondering, the way to go is via Belgrade. Then, there is a train to NoviSad.
Can someone confirm this please?
Cheers,
Alexandre
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> On 24-11-2019, at 09:45, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends
>
> we are happy to confirm that ESUG will happen in NoviSad from 31.8. – 4.9. 2020
>
> S.
> --------------------------------------------
> Stéphane Ducasse
> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
> 03 59 35 87 52
> Assistant: Julie Jonas
> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
> S. Ducasse - Inria
> 40, avenue Halley,
> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
> France
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Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
by Alexandre Bergel
Thanks Gordana!
Alexandre
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> On 26-11-2019, at 11:41, Gordana Rakic <goca(a)dmi.uns.ac.rs> wrote:
>
> Hi Alexandre,
>
> Yes, you can fly to Belgrade, and then Novi Sad is 70km to the north from the airport. The best option will be to organize airport transfer or shuttle services for participants, because like that you do not have to go to Belgrade first.
> Another option is to go to Belgrade bus station and take a bus to Novi Sad which will take another for 1-1.5 hours. The railway is closed for renovation until 2021 or so ☹
>
> However, you can also fly to Budapest and there is another shuttle service which is around 25EUR and lasts for 3-4 hours to Novi Sad depending on the border.
>
> You will see, it is really easy to reach Novi Sad, but we are here to help you.
>
> Welcome!
> Gordana
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Esug-list <esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org> On Behalf Of Alexandre Bergel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 3:22 PM
> To: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>
> Cc: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org>
> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
>
> Just wondering, the way to go is via Belgrade. Then, there is a train to NoviSad.
> Can someone confirm this please?
>
> Cheers,
> Alexandre
> --
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>
>
>
>> On 24-11-2019, at 09:45, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Friends
>>
>> we are happy to confirm that ESUG will happen in NoviSad from 31.8. – 4.9. 2020
>>
>> S.
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Stéphane Ducasse
>> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
>> 03 59 35 87 52
>> Assistant: Julie Jonas
>> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
>> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
>> S. Ducasse - Inria
>> 40, avenue Halley,
>> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
>> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
>> France
>>
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Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
by Gordana Rakic
Hi Alexandre,
Yes, you can fly to Belgrade, and then Novi Sad is 70km to the north from the airport. The best option will be to organize airport transfer or shuttle services for participants, because like that you do not have to go to Belgrade first.
Another option is to go to Belgrade bus station and take a bus to Novi Sad which will take another for 1-1.5 hours. The railway is closed for renovation until 2021 or so ☹
However, you can also fly to Budapest and there is another shuttle service which is around 25EUR and lasts for 3-4 hours to Novi Sad depending on the border.
You will see, it is really easy to reach Novi Sad, but we are here to help you.
Welcome!
Gordana
-----Original Message-----
From: Esug-list <esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org> On Behalf Of Alexandre Bergel
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 3:22 PM
To: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>
Cc: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org>
Subject: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2020 Novisad 31.8. – 4.9.
Just wondering, the way to go is via Belgrade. Then, there is a train to NoviSad.
Can someone confirm this please?
Cheers,
Alexandre
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> On 24-11-2019, at 09:45, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote:
>
> Dear Friends
>
> we are happy to confirm that ESUG will happen in NoviSad from 31.8. – 4.9. 2020
>
> S.
> --------------------------------------------
> Stéphane Ducasse
> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org
> 03 59 35 87 52
> Assistant: Julie Jonas
> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
> S. Ducasse - Inria
> 40, avenue Halley,
> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
> France
>
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