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Re: [Esug-list] bank transfer

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Stephan, so mabe I am talking about a German specialty. All our banks give me a selection between SEPA payments within the EU and international payments for the rest of the world. If I select a SEPA payment, they never ask about sharing costs, because that is defined. SEPA payments have the same cost (if any) like domestic payments. Joachim Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 11:30 geschrieben: > Joachim, > > I am not sure how all transfers are called, but all banks offer for > international payments a choice between: > - all costs are for the initiator (DOM) > - we share the cost (SHA) > - all costs are for benificiary (BEN) > > Only when you choose SHA, the bank has to transfer cost free within > the EU. As said: if you check DOM, most banks will charge you. > > grtz. Stephan and Diego > > > On 2 jul 2010, at 11:12, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > > > Stephan, > > > > are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or > > international > > (SWIFT) payments? > > Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any > > more than > > for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question > > about > > sharing costs at all... > > > > Joachim > > > > Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 > > geschrieben: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the > >> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!. > >> > >> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared > >> cost > >> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all. > >> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will > >> charge you. > >> > >> Grtz. Diego > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Esug-list mailing list > >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de > > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > > D-71640 Ludwigsburg > > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

July 2, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] bank transfer

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi Stephan, You're right. This statement is valid only for transfers from outside the European Union. We'll fix it. Best, Noury On 2 juil. 2010, at 11:30, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > Joachim, > > I am not sure how all transfers are called, but all banks offer for international payments a choice between: > - all costs are for the initiator (DOM) > - we share the cost (SHA) > - all costs are for benificiary (BEN) > > Only when you choose SHA, the bank has to transfer cost free within the EU. As said: if you check DOM, most banks will charge you. > > grtz. Stephan and Diego > > > On 2 jul 2010, at 11:12, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > >> Stephan, >> >> are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or international >> (SWIFT) payments? >> Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any more than >> for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question about >> sharing costs at all... >> >> Joachim >> >> Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 geschrieben: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the >>> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!. >>> >>> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared cost >>> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all. >>> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will >>> charge you. >>> >>> Grtz. Diego >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >> D-71640 Ludwigsburg >> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 2, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] bank transfer

by Stephan Eggermont

Joachim, I am not sure how all transfers are called, but all banks offer for international payments a choice between: - all costs are for the initiator (DOM) - we share the cost (SHA) - all costs are for benificiary (BEN) Only when you choose SHA, the bank has to transfer cost free within the EU. As said: if you check DOM, most banks will charge you. grtz. Stephan and Diego On 2 jul 2010, at 11:12, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > Stephan, > > are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or > international > (SWIFT) payments? > Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any > more than > for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question > about > sharing costs at all... > > Joachim > > Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 > geschrieben: > >> Hi all, >> >> I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the >> bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!. >> >> For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared >> cost >> (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all. >> When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will >> charge you. >> >> Grtz. Diego >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > D-71640 Ludwigsburg > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 2, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] bank transfer

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Stephan, are you talking about payments within the EU (SEPA transfers) or international (SWIFT) payments? Within the EU, if you initiate a SEPA payment, they won't charge any more than for domestic payments and there should normally not be any question about sharing costs at all... Joachim Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> hat am 2. Juli 2010 um 10:30 geschrieben: > Hi all, > > I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the > bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!. > > For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared cost > (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all. > When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will > charge you. > > Grtz. Diego > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

July 2, 2010

bank transfer

by Stephan Eggermont

Hi all, I just registered for the ESUG 2010 and I found the message about the bank transfer misleading. Stephan remarked: again!. For European (within EU) transfers, people should fill out shared cost (SHA), in order to ensure the payment is done without costs at all. When you tell your bank "without costs to the beneficiary" they will charge you. Grtz. Diego

July 2, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

by Marcus Denker

On Jul 2, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Jul 2, 2010, at 1:14 AM, travis griggs wrote: > >> can you please remove this e-mail from your list. This is not the Travis Griggs that wrote a book on small talk. Thanks >> > > I have removed the adress ....@gmail.com from the esug mailinglist. Strange. > > Marcus > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de > INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD. >

July 2, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

by travis griggs

can you please remove this e-mail from your list. This is not the Travis Griggs that wrote a book on small talk. Thanks On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Smalltalkers, > > The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month > to go). > So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server. > http://registration.esug.org/ > This server comes with new features. > You can now do a group registration and make a single payment. > Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum > sponsors). > > The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as > promising as was for the previous editions of the conference. > Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web, > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 > > See you in Barcelona, > Noury > ESUG treasurer > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

July 1, 2010

ESUG 2010 registration dead-line is approaching!

by Noury Bouraqadi

Dear Smalltalkers, The dead-line for registration at early bird fees is approaching (one month to go). So, hurry up and register on our new seaside-based server. http://registration.esug.org/ This server comes with new features. You can now do a group registration and make a single payment. Also, we have reduction tickets (typically for Golden and Platinum sponsors). The ESUG 2010 conference program is about to be ready, and it is as promising as was for the previous editions of the conference. Checkout the preliminary schedule is already on the web, http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 See you in Barcelona, Noury ESUG treasurer

July 1, 2010

Fwd: Emploi Smalltalk

by stephane ducasse

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June 29, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk Solutions 2011

by Georg Heeg

Dear Smalltalkers and Smalltalk Interested People, Today we have announced Smalltalk Solutions 2011. Details and something to win can be found on our web site www.stic.st. Georg Heeg STIC - Smalltalk Industry Council Executive Director Phone +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712

June 27, 2010