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Re: [Esug-list] Vote for the best Smalltalk book of the last 5 years...

by Stéphane Ducasse

I forgot to mention that the deadline is until wednesday 15 at noon. On Sep 6, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Dear Smalltalkers > > this year ESUG would like to reward effort made in book publications. Since we want to push new books but that it takes time to write books we will > take into account a window of 5 years. So you are requested to vote for the best book of the last 5 years. > > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Q2LKKDT > > Stef on the behalf of the ESUG board. > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 7, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] Vote for the best Smalltalk book of the last 5 years...

by stephane ducasse

>>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> for some more or less conceivable reason, this hasn't made it to the >>> Squeak list yet. >> >> like what? >> I'm curious to learn. > > Like "conflict of interest"? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest) > > "A conflict of interest (COI) occurs when an individual or organization is involved in multiple interests, one of which could possibly corrupt the motivation for an act in the other." > > Given that you're both the author of half of the books as well as president of ESUG (the organizer) it's pretty clear that you're stuck in a conflict of interest situation. Inviting the Pharo community to participate and not others only shows how deep the conflict of interest goes - the president of ESUG shouldn't favor individual communities, should he? Thanks andreas for this welcome mail. of course that esug does not something is not the wish of everybody. And people will vote not us. And this is not my fault if I spent my nights trying to get better a smalltalk world. Everybody can write books: a book is a word + a word + a word a lot of time, even you can do it. Now yesterday I had a difficult day - five visitors (one chilean, one argentinian, noury, luc, mariano and a team of 9 people to synchronize). You see I even forgot to send the mail to the seaside mailing-list. Thanks again for such encouragement. Stef (talking small).

Sept. 7, 2010

supporting the spanish translation of Pharo by example

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys I heard that the spanish translation of the pharo by example book is at 50%. :( So please contact Gabriela Arevalo <gabriela.b.arevalo(a)gmail.com> to help. I cannot believe that you will not get it done. Stef

Sept. 7, 2010

Vote for the best Smalltalk book of the last 5 years...

by Stéphane Ducasse

Dear Smalltalkers this year ESUG would like to reward effort made in book publications. Since we want to push new books but that it takes time to write books we will take into account a window of 5 years. So you are requested to vote for the best book of the last 5 years. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/Q2LKKDT Stef on the behalf of the ESUG board.

Sept. 6, 2010

Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice?

by Henrik Høyer

Dear All If you have forgotten about Visual Smalltalk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_Smalltalk_Enterprise) it is this really cool Smalltalk dialect that enables users to build native Windows applications. Visual Smalltalk is one of the original Smalltalk dialects, and was made by Digitalk. In 1995 active development stopped when the merger between ParcPlace and Digitalk happened. VSE has since been in the hands of ParcPlace-Digitalk, then ObjectShare, and since 1999 Cincom. The state of affair of Visual Smalltalk Enterprise (VSE) is not optimal. The VSE community has make several attempts in the past to clear this up. These attempts has all been made quietly and discrete. When I left ESUG last year I was confident that there was a future for open-sourcing VSE. Unfortunately I have since learned that Cincom are not willing to change anything, and are regarding VSE as a cash cow. The current status is: Cincom stopped all work on the VSE platform more than a decade ago Cincom continues to collect support fees for VSE Cincom has raised the price for VSE licenses Cincom only fixes bug on a case-by-case matter. Bugs fixed for one customer is not made available to other customers. Cincom charges huge money for fixing bugs. They charge by the hour, and since they don't have the knowledge one can expect 50-100 hours for trivial fixes Cincom does not hold the IP for VSE - Seagull Software does Cincom has exclusive rights for selling and supporting VSE Seagull Software has no problem selling/donating the IP Cincom has refused to sell/donate their rights Due to the above, VSE users are jumping through hoops to actually use the product on newer operating systems. To make the matters worse, every time anyone makes a bug fix, we all fear that Cincom will drop its lawyer muscle on us. I believe that the time has come to stop being discrete and speak up in public. For VSE to have a future we need to act now. I would love for Cincom to comment on these issues. Does Cincom really see the free support and maintenance made by the community as a threat to their business? Are Cincom interested in actually supporting VSE, and not just collecting money from their trapped customers? Does Cincom really believe that VSE customers will migrate to other products supplied by them, taking only their word for not abandoning them again in the future? Unfortunately I am not able to attend ESUG this year, but I hope that others will raise these questions. I am pretty sure nobody in the Smalltalk community will benefit from the death of VSE. -- Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS Chief Software Architect (+45) 4029 2092

Sept. 2, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Information about ESUG 2010 conference

by Geert Claes

That'd be really great James! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Information-about-ESUG-2010-conference-tp2400043p2402… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 31, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Information about ESUG 2010 conference

by Jordi Delgado

Hi, One of the services Citilab offers as a venue of conferences is a live streaming of the talks. Also, they may be recorded. I will ask, but I am pretty sure that this service is included. As soon as I am back to Barcelona I will ask. I'll keep you informed. Bests, Jordi > > Looking at the list of talks I really wish I could be at the ESUG conference > ... will the talks be recorded so those who won't be able to be there will > be able to at least get an update afterwards? > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Information-about-ESUG-2010-conference-tp2400043p2400… > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Aug. 31, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Information about ESUG 2010 conference

by James Foster

I plan to bring a video camera and can try to record/edit presentations. James On Aug 31, 2010, at 5:42 AM, James Robertson wrote: > I will not be at ESUG this year, so I won't be recording. If someone else records the talks, I'd be happy to host the video though. Getting large files to me could be easily accomplished via DropBox. > > > James Robertson > Cincom Smalltalk Product Evangelist > http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView > Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library

Aug. 31, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Information about ESUG 2010 conference

by Alejandro Garcia

This is bad news James your recordings last year were very important in my learning of smalltalk. Thank you very much. Do conference organizers have contemplated some form of recording? TIA > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:42 AM, James Robertson <jrobertson(a)cincom.com> wrote: >> I will not be at ESUG this year, so I won't be recording. If someone else records the talks, I'd be happy to host the video though. Getting large files to me could be easily accomplished via DropBox. >> >> >> James Robertson >> Cincom Smalltalk Product Evangelist >> http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView >> Talk Small and Carry a Big Class Library >> >> >> >> >> On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:49 PM, Geert Claes wrote: >> >>> >>> Looking at the list of talks I really wish I could be at the ESUG conference >>> ... will the talks be recorded so those who won't be able to be there will >>> be able to at least get an update afterwards? >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Information-about-ESUG-2010-conference-tp2400043p2400… >>> Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >

Aug. 31, 2010

Fwd: 3 year Smalltalk job offer at Nantes/Paris

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi guys here is a job offer for smalltalk for a 3 year period. Please reply to yohan directly. Stef > Je suis à la recherche d'ingénieurs en développement Smalltalk . > > Le poste actuel est pour l'ouest de la France, entre Nantes et Paris, pour > une période minimum de 3 ans. > > Restant à votre disposition, > Cordialement. > > Yohan Choquer > Ingénieur Commercial > ___________________________________________________________ > > Informatique - Bureau d'Etudes > Assistance Technique - Conseil - Ingénierie - Formation > > ZAC Les Hauts de Couëron, Rue des forgerons, > 44220 Couëron, France Plan d'accès > Tél : +33 (0)2 51 83 03 00 > Mob : +33 (0)6 03 18 60 82 > Fax : +33 (0)2 51 83 03 01 > www.gconsept.com<http://www.gconsept.com>

Aug. 31, 2010