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Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding?

by Carlos Crosetti

I clicked the console button and is like stuck loading http;//.../lively.JSON.js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Crosetti" <carlos.crosetti(a)mostar.com.ar> To: "Paolo Bonzini" <bonzini(a)gnu.org>; "Dan Ingalls" <dan(a)squeakland.org> Cc: <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding? >I see the¨"loading" splashbox, it is taking more than 10 minutes from when >started, how much time it takes to load? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paolo Bonzini" <bonzini(a)gnu.org> > To: "Dan Ingalls" <dan(a)squeakland.org> > Cc: <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding? > > >> On 10/31/2010 11:32 PM, Dan Ingalls wrote: >>> http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/Dan/OMeta-Smalltalk-Demo.x… >> >> Doesn't load in Firefox 3.6 (pistons spin forever), crashes the browser >> in Epiphany (WebKit-based). :( >> >> Paolo >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >

Nov. 1, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding?

by Carlos Crosetti

I see the¨"loading" splashbox, it is taking more than 10 minutes from when started, how much time it takes to load? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paolo Bonzini" <bonzini(a)gnu.org> To: "Dan Ingalls" <dan(a)squeakland.org> Cc: <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:48 PM Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding? > On 10/31/2010 11:32 PM, Dan Ingalls wrote: >> http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/Dan/OMeta-Smalltalk-Demo.x… > > Doesn't load in Firefox 3.6 (pistons spin forever), crashes the browser in > Epiphany (WebKit-based). :( > > Paolo > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

Nov. 1, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding?

by Paolo Bonzini

On 10/31/2010 11:32 PM, Dan Ingalls wrote: > http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/Dan/OMeta-Smalltalk-Demo.x… Doesn't load in Firefox 3.6 (pistons spin forever), crashes the browser in Epiphany (WebKit-based). :( Paolo

Oct. 31, 2010

Is he kidding?

by Dan Ingalls

Hi again - I will stop polluting this otherwise sane list, but I can't resist one more thought... You know I never left Smalltalk; I'm just using another language right now ;-). One of the early thoughts I had when working on the Lively Kernel was to put a Smalltalk "skin" on top of it, and I'd have a Lively Smalltalk. I was going to release it to SqueakLand as an April Fool's prank, but the day came and went; then a year came and went, and so it goes... Meanwhile, Alex Warth sketched a Smalltalk evaluator in OMeta and put it up on his Tin Lizzie site. Anticipating various fun language experiments, we then integrated OMeta (as JavaScript) with the Lively Kernel, and Robert Krahn put together a Lively version of Alex's experiment. You might find it intriguing... http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/Dan/OMeta-Smalltalk-Demo.x… This should work on Safari, Chrome, Firefox and Opera, with iPad and IE9 working RSN. You should be able to select expressions and evaluate them with cmd-p or something similar (different in different browsers and platforms). If all else fails, you should be able to bring up a menu with cmd-click, and select Text-functions/print-it. Don't forget to scroll the Smalltalk workspace up -- the best examples are out of view. So, is this a joke? Modern JavaScripts runs at a speed comparable to Squeak The graphics are resolution-independent and anti-aliased It runs in almost every browser You don't need to install it to run You can save your work on a web page and share it that way too Of course it's only a two-day hack, but what if someone actually got serious about it? And what about the synergy with Gilad's interest in compiling Newspeak to JS? For me, I think we could have a lot of fun in the next year. If this tickles your fancy, hop on the Lively Kernel mail list and we'll try to give you some support. The documentation is sparse but the people are friendly. All the best - Dan

Oct. 31, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Growing a community

by Dan Ingalls

Hi Geert - <several snips> >The "download a new environment" may not mean to a local machine, because I >would like to add that we also expect to pick it up anywhere and probably >also on any device! I agree. We are still learning what is the sweet spot in the mobile/cloud universe, and how this relates to earlier client/server experience. - Dan

Oct. 31, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service?

by Stéphane Ducasse

Thanks! Stef On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Mirko Kiefer wrote: > Stephane, > I haven't looked at the cloudfork code in detail but I'm sure you can reuse the generic part of setting up the communication. > All Amazon Web Services communicate in the same way - its basically about signing your requests with an HMAC signature using your secret access-token. > Each API then defines certain query parameters. To do your ISBN queries you can have a look here: > http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSECommerceService/latest/DG/index.html?… > > You will just need to supply the parameters IdType=ISBN and ItemId for the actual ISBN. > Depending of the amount or kind of information you want to get you can specifiy certain "ResponseGroups" in the request e.g. "Large" or "Medium". > > Hope that helps. > > Mirko > > > On 10/31/10 6:27 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> Thanks mirko >> I will read that ;) >> Like that I can learn something. Did you check cloudfork? do you know if there are some services communication I could reuse? >> >> Stef >> >> On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Mirko Kiefer wrote: >> >>> Hi Stephane, >>> >>> I wrote a simple client for the Amazon Web Services in Node.js that allows you to do this kind of queries. >>> The implementation is quite straightforward - porting it to Smalltalk shouldn't be much work. >>> http://github.com/mirkok/Node-AWS >>> >>> Mirko >>> >>> On 10/31/10 5:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>>> Hi guys >>>> >>>> I would like to get book information from an ISBN and I would like to query amazon. >>>> Does any of you an experience with that and some pointers? >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Esug-list mailing list >>>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Oct. 31, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service?

by Stéphane Ducasse

Thanks! I will have a look now. On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Georg Heeg wrote: > Stef, > > One of the initial seaBreeze examples we showed at ESUg in Amsterdam. The > demo still is part of seaBreeze one-click image. Just download seaBreeze > from seaBreeze.heeg.de and have a look. > > Georg > > Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 > Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org > [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010 17:52 > An: ESUG Mailing list > Betreff: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service? > > Hi guys > > I would like to get book information from an ISBN and I would like to query > amazon. > Does any of you an experience with that and some pointers? > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

Oct. 31, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service?

by Mirko Kiefer

Stephane, I haven't looked at the cloudfork code in detail but I'm sure you can reuse the generic part of setting up the communication. All Amazon Web Services communicate in the same way - its basically about signing your requests with an HMAC signature using your secret access-token. Each API then defines certain query parameters. To do your ISBN queries you can have a look here: http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSECommerceService/latest/DG/index.html?… You will just need to supply the parameters IdType=ISBN and ItemId for the actual ISBN. Depending of the amount or kind of information you want to get you can specifiy certain "ResponseGroups" in the request e.g. "Large" or "Medium". Hope that helps. Mirko On 10/31/10 6:27 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks mirko > I will read that ;) > Like that I can learn something. Did you check cloudfork? do you know if there are some services communication I could reuse? > > Stef > > On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Mirko Kiefer wrote: > >> Hi Stephane, >> >> I wrote a simple client for the Amazon Web Services in Node.js that allows you to do this kind of queries. >> The implementation is quite straightforward - porting it to Smalltalk shouldn't be much work. >> http://github.com/mirkok/Node-AWS >> >> Mirko >> >> On 10/31/10 5:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I would like to get book information from an ISBN and I would like to query amazon. >>> Does any of you an experience with that and some pointers? >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Oct. 31, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service?

by Georg Heeg

Stef, One of the initial seaBreeze examples we showed at ESUg in Amsterdam. The demo still is part of seaBreeze one-click image. Just download seaBreeze from seaBreeze.heeg.de and have a look. Georg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010 17:52 An: ESUG Mailing list Betreff: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service? Hi guys I would like to get book information from an ISBN and I would like to query amazon. Does any of you an experience with that and some pointers? Stef _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Oct. 31, 2010

How to query Amazon information via a web service?

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi guys I would like to get book information from an ISBN and I would like to query amazon. Does any of you an experience with that and some pointers? Stef

Oct. 31, 2010