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Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] ESUG supports once again SqueakDBX

by Geert Claes

I understand the reasoning behind the name change but I am unsure about some of the possible names. Since it is a Smalltalk solution to access relational databases the first name that popped in my head was something like "RDBTalk" Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > ... > So, these are some of the possible names: > ObjectPark > SmallParking > Parktalk > SmallValet > Valetalk > ValetST, > NorayTalk > Ballard > Noray > Cruise > .. > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ANN-ESUG-supports-once-again-SqueakDBX-tp3334862p3335… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 4, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [squeak-dev] [ANN] ESUG supports once again SqueakDBX

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Germán Arduino <garduino(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Certainly all the Smalltalk community should thank ESUG by the > continous support to lot of initiatives. > > And to ESUG sponsors :) and ESUG conference attendees...and...and..lots of people :) > Thanks ESUG. > > > 2011/3/4 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > > We are really happy to announce that ESUG will sponsor us once again > through > > the ESUG Summer Talk project. This means that we have reached the ESUG > > expectations and that they still think that relational database access is > an > > important matter in Smalltalk. > > > > One important thing is that we are going to rename the project (we are > still > > working on it) since SqueakDBX runs not only in Squeak but also in Pharo, > > and there have been even ports to Dolphin. What's the reason for this > > decision? Because we do not want to couple ourselves to a smalltalk > dialect > > nor to OpenDBX, because our project is much more than that (later I will > > tell you about our plans). So, these are some of the possible names: > > ObjectPark, SmallParking, Parktalk, SmallValet, Valetalk, ValetST, > > NorayTalk, Ballard, Noray and Cruise. Please let us know which one is > your > > favourite or help us find a new one. > > > > Another important subject is the team. There will be three "mentors", > > Esteban Lorenzano, Diogenes Moreira and myself, Mariano Martinez Peck; > and > > three students: Guillermo Polito, Nicolas Scarcella and Santiago > Bragagnolo. > > > > We are open to suggestions and ideas. In addition, we have defined a > > possible list of actions that I copy at the end of the email. > > > > For the moment, the url remains www.squeakdbx.org and the mailing > > list squeakdbx(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > > > > Once again, we want to thank ESUG for their support and trust. > > > > Thank you very much, > > > > SqueakDBX team > > > > > > > > > > > > Possible list of actions: > > > > 1) Change SqueakDBX’s name. > > > > 2) Update GLORP version since the actual one is 3 years old. > > > > Port it again from VisualWorks, create a VW porting tool (may be). > > Complete support to Glorp. Today it works with PostgreSQL, Oracle and > > MySQL. Make it work with most databases OpenDBX supports. > > > > 3) Create a lightweight solution, alternatively to GLORP. There are some > > options: > > > > Make SqueakSave work with SqueakDBX. SqueakSave developers already > > contacted us because they wanted to do it. SqueakSave seems to be 20% > slower > > than Glorp but you don't need to write the mappings :) > > Adapt Ramon Leon's active record to use an abstract database driver, and > > create a driver for SqueakDBX. > > Port the new Glorp’s kind of active record to Pharo. (included in 2). > > > > 4) Write a Pharo By Example 2 chapter based on the card game Stef built > ;). > > > > 5) Cog compatibility. > > > > 6) Use Alien instead of FFI. > > Eliot is working on a threaded CogVM. One of the projects of the GSoC of > > this year was to make something similar to a threaded FFI. What the > student > > did is a modification in Alien (I think) that can be run in a > multithreaded > > envirorment. He worked with Eliot. The idea is when Eliot releases the > > threaded CogVM, this FFI would work our of the box, and would avoid > locking > > the WHOLE vm while a C function is being invoked (as it happens today > with > > FFI).....So....when that VM is released, we MUST migrate to that). > > > > 7) Explore performance issues (maybe with our approach of "In thread > > execution plugin"). > > > > 8) Complete integration with OpenDBX. For example, Oracle, for large > objects > > (Clob, Blob, etc) use specific functions. There are specific functions in > > OpenDBX that have to be used if the database uses specific functions > (oracle > > is the only one for the moment.). We don't manage those functions yet. > > > > 9) In this link http://www.squeakdbx.org/Targets%20and%20Features > > You can see a list of future possible features like Connection pooling > (now > > it is done!), Prepared statement interface, Store procedures, Escape and > > avoid of SQL insertion, Authentication support: extends to other methods, > > not only user/password, Full text support, etc. > > > > > > >

March 4, 2011

[ANN] ESUG supports once again SqueakDBX

by Mariano Martinez Peck

We are really happy to announce that ESUG will sponsor us once again through the ESUG Summer Talk project. This means that we have reached the ESUG expectations and that they still think that relational database access is an important matter in Smalltalk. One important thing is that we are going to rename the project (we are still working on it) since SqueakDBX runs not only in Squeak but also in Pharo, and there have been even ports to Dolphin. What's the reason for this decision? Because we do not want to couple ourselves to a smalltalk dialect nor to OpenDBX, because our project is much more than that (later I will tell you about our plans). So, these are some of the possible names: ObjectPark, SmallParking, Parktalk, SmallValet, Valetalk, ValetST, NorayTalk, Ballard, Noray and Cruise. Please let us know which one is your favourite or help us find a new one. Another important subject is the team. There will be three "mentors", Esteban Lorenzano, Diogenes Moreira and myself, Mariano Martinez Peck; and three students: Guillermo Polito, Nicolas Scarcella and Santiago Bragagnolo. We are open to suggestions and ideas. In addition, we have defined a possible list of actions that I copy at the end of the email. For the moment, the url remains www.squeakdbx.org and the mailing list squeakdbx(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org Once again, we want to thank ESUG for their support and trust. Thank you very much, SqueakDBX team Possible list of actions: 1) Change SqueakDBX’s name. 2) Update GLORP version since the actual one is 3 years old. Port it again from VisualWorks, create a VW porting tool (may be). Complete support to Glorp. Today it works with PostgreSQL, Oracle and MySQL. Make it work with most databases OpenDBX supports. 3) Create a lightweight solution, alternatively to GLORP. There are some options: Make SqueakSave work with SqueakDBX. SqueakSave developers already contacted us because they wanted to do it. SqueakSave seems to be 20% slower than Glorp but you don't need to write the mappings :) Adapt Ramon Leon's active record to use an abstract database driver, and create a driver for SqueakDBX. Port the new Glorp’s kind of active record to Pharo. (included in 2). 4) Write a Pharo By Example 2 chapter based on the card game Stef built ;). 5) Cog compatibility. 6) Use Alien instead of FFI. Eliot is working on a threaded CogVM. One of the projects of the GSoC of this year was to make something similar to a threaded FFI. What the student did is a modification in Alien (I think) that can be run in a multithreaded envirorment. He worked with Eliot. The idea is when Eliot releases the threaded CogVM, this FFI would work our of the box, and would avoid locking the WHOLE vm while a C function is being invoked (as it happens today with FFI).....So....when that VM is released, we MUST migrate to that). 7) Explore performance issues (maybe with our approach of "In thread execution plugin"). 8) Complete integration with OpenDBX. For example, Oracle, for large objects (Clob, Blob, etc) use specific functions. There are specific functions in OpenDBX that have to be used if the database uses specific functions (oracle is the only one for the moment.). We don't manage those functions yet. 9) In this link http://www.squeakdbx.org/Targets%20and%20Features You can see a list of future possible features like Connection pooling (now it is done!), Prepared statement interface, Store procedures, Escape and avoid of SQL insertion, Authentication support: extends to other methods, not only user/password, Full text support, etc.

March 4, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2011 Call for Contributions

by Jorge Silva - 10Pines

Hi Naill! Thanks for the corrections. I hope to have the chance to be there, and see the explanation in Smalltalk, great idea! :D Cheers, Jorge On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net> wrote: > Dear Jorge, > > > Maybe this could help to understand the different names... >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 >> > > Fun to watch, even though the facts are of course boringly familiar to > anyone born here. Three small errors > > - British is not an objected-to term for the nationality - it is widely > used. (To be fair, I think the speaker is just joking here.) > > - Great Britain derives from 'Greater Britain' the term introduced after > 1603 to desitgnate the union of Scotland with the rest. It therefore > includes all the Scottish islands (and any that are part of England and > Wales) and so the video is wrong in its colouring and when it says the term > is 'sometimes used wrongly'). > > - The commonwealth is the British Empire old boys club and while it does > not include all former members, it does include many, for example India, in > addition to the group the video identifies. > > So it's a starter but viewers would undoubtly need an 'advanced geography' > follow-up course before they had mastered the subject. Perhaps we could > offer it at ESUG, coded in Smalltalk of course. :-) > > Meanwhile, if anyone is acting on the 'Please distribute widely' request in > the mailing, please correct (to 'Edinburgh Scotland' or 'Edinburgh, UK', > according to taste) before doing so. > > Yours faithfully > Niall Ross > > >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net <mailto: >> nfr(a)bigwig.net>> wrote: >> >> >> 19th International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for >> Contributions >> >> Edinburgh, England >> >> That's, ah, Edinburgh, _Scotland_, actually - or Edinburgh, Great >> Britain or Edinburgh, United Kingdom, or Edinburgh, Albion, or >> Edinburgh, Britannia, or .... >> >> Saying 'England' for 'Britain' abroad is quite usual but saying >> 'Edinburgh, _England_' is not quite geographically accurate - and >> may draw the occasional comment from the natives :-) >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org> >> >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> >> >> -- >> ** >> >> *Jorge Silva* >> Agile Software Development >> Mobile: +54 - 11 - 6336 - 3360 >> email: jsilva(a)10Pines.com >> site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/> >> >> >> ** >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email___________________________________________… > -- ** *Jorge Silva* Agile Software Development Mobile: +54 - 11 - 6336 - 3360 email: jsilva(a)10Pines.com site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/> * <http://www.10pines.com/>*

March 2, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2011 Call for Contributions

by Niall Ross

Dear Jorge, > Maybe this could help to understand the different > names... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 Fun to watch, even though the facts are of course boringly familiar to anyone born here. Three small errors - British is not an objected-to term for the nationality - it is widely used. (To be fair, I think the speaker is just joking here.) - Great Britain derives from 'Greater Britain' the term introduced after 1603 to desitgnate the union of Scotland with the rest. It therefore includes all the Scottish islands (and any that are part of England and Wales) and so the video is wrong in its colouring and when it says the term is 'sometimes used wrongly'). - The commonwealth is the British Empire old boys club and while it does not include all former members, it does include many, for example India, in addition to the group the video identifies. So it's a starter but viewers would undoubtly need an 'advanced geography' follow-up course before they had mastered the subject. Perhaps we could offer it at ESUG, coded in Smalltalk of course. :-) Meanwhile, if anyone is acting on the 'Please distribute widely' request in the mailing, please correct (to 'Edinburgh Scotland' or 'Edinburgh, UK', according to taste) before doing so. Yours faithfully Niall Ross > > On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net > <mailto:nfr@bigwig.net>> wrote: > > > 19th International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for > Contributions > > Edinburgh, England > > That's, ah, Edinburgh, _Scotland_, actually - or Edinburgh, Great > Britain or Edinburgh, United Kingdom, or Edinburgh, Albion, or > Edinburgh, Britannia, or .... > > Saying 'England' for 'Britain' abroad is quite usual but saying > 'Edinburgh, _England_' is not quite geographically accurate - and > may draw the occasional comment from the natives :-) > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org> > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > > -- > ** > > *Jorge Silva* > Agile Software Development > Mobile: +54 - 11 - 6336 - 3360 > email: jsilva(a)10Pines.com > site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/> > > > ** > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

March 2, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2011 Call for Contributions

by Jorge Silva - 10Pines

Maybe this could help to understand the different names... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10 On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net> wrote: > > 19th International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions >>> >>> Edinburgh, England >>> >>> That's, ah, Edinburgh, _Scotland_, actually - or Edinburgh, Great > Britain or Edinburgh, United Kingdom, or Edinburgh, Albion, or Edinburgh, > Britannia, or .... > > Saying 'England' for 'Britain' abroad is quite usual but saying 'Edinburgh, > _England_' is not quite geographically accurate - and may draw the > occasional comment from the natives :-) > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email___________________________________________… > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- ** *Jorge Silva* Agile Software Development Mobile: +54 - 11 - 6336 - 3360 email: jsilva(a)10Pines.com site: http://www.10Pines.com <http://www.10pines.com/> * <http://www.10pines.com/>*

March 2, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2011 Call for Contributions

by Niall Ross

>>19th International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions >> >> Edinburgh, England >> That's, ah, Edinburgh, _Scotland_, actually - or Edinburgh, Great Britain or Edinburgh, United Kingdom, or Edinburgh, Albion, or Edinburgh, Britannia, or .... Saying 'England' for 'Britain' abroad is quite usual but saying 'Edinburgh, _England_' is not quite geographically accurate - and may draw the occasional comment from the natives :-) ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________

March 2, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2011 Call for Contributions

by Stéphane Ducasse

Of course doing too many things.... You all got that this is at Edinburgh and in august > Please distribute widely > > 19th International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions > > Edinburgh, England > August 20-26 2011; Camp Smalltalk August 20-21 > http://esug.org/Conferences/2011/ > > This call includes: > Developer program > Free ESUG tickets > International Workshop http://esug.org/Conferences/2011/International-Workshop-on-Smalltalk-Techno… > Student Volunteer http://esug.org/Conferences/2011/Student+Volunteers+program > Camp Smalltalk: Saturday 20th - Sunday 21st August 2011. > ESUG conference: Monday 22nd - Friday 26th August 2011. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For the past 19 years, the European Smalltalk User Group (ESUG) has > organised the International Smalltalk Conference, a lively forum on > cutting edge software technologies that attract people from both > academia and industry for a whole week. The attendees are both > engineers using Smalltalk in business and students and teachers > using Smalltalk both for research and didactic purposes. > > As every year, this year's edition of the largest European Smalltalk > event will include the regular Smalltalk developers conference with > renowned invited speakers, a Smalltalk camp that proves fruitful for > interactions and discussions. Besides, this year will be held the > - 7th edition of the Innovation Technology Awards where prizes will be > awarded to authors of best pieces of Smalltalk-related projects > - an international workshop on Smalltalk and dynamic languages > http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2011/International-Workshop-on-Sm… > > > - ESUG will offer 10 free entrance tickets. > To get a free ticket you should send a mail to the esug board (board(a)esug.org) > Subject: [ESUG 2011 Free entrance] + your name > And you should write a small motivation. > > > You can support the ESUG conference in many different ways: > > * Sponsor the conference. New sponsoring packages are described at > http://www.esug.org/supportesug/becomeasponsor/ > * Submit a talk, a software or a paper to one of the events. See > below. > > * Attend the conference. We'd like to beat the previous record of > attendance (156 participants at Brest and 170 people at Amsterdam, 150 at Barcelona)! > > * Students can get free registration and hosting if they enroll > into the the Student Volunteers program. See below. > > Developers Forum: International Smalltalk Developers Conference > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This year we are looking for YOUR experience on using Smalltalk. > In addition, we are looking for tutorials. The > list of topics includes, but is not limited to the following: > > * XP practices > * Development tools > * Experience reports > * Model driven development > * Web development > * Team management > * Meta-Modeling > * Security > * New libraries & frameworks > * Educational material > * Embedded systems and robotics > * SOA and Web services > * Interaction with other programming languages > > Submissions due on 1 July 2010 > Notification of acceptance on 5 of July 2010 > More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2011 > > How to submit? > ------------------ > Pay attention: the places are limited so do not wait till the last > minute to apply. Prospective presenters should submit a request to > board(a)esug.org AND stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr > following the template below. Please use this template since the > emails will be automatically processed! > > Subject: [ESUG 2011 Developers] + your name > > First Name: > > Last Name: > > Email where you can always be reached: > > Title: > > Abstract: > > Bio: > > Any presentation not respecting this form will be discarded automatically > > > Innovation Technology Award > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > We are proud to announce the 6th Innovation Technology Awards. The > top 3 teams with the most innovative software will receive, > respectively, 500 Euros, 300 Euros and 200 Euros during an awards > ceremony at the conference. Developers of any Smalltalk-based > software are welcome to compete. This year we will request 3-5min videos. > More information at http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011/Innovation+Technology+Awards > > > Student Volunteer Program > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > If you are a student wanting to attend ESUG, have you considered > being a student volunteer? Student volunteers help keep the > conference running smoothly; in return, they have free > accommodations, while still having most of the time to enjoy the > conference. > More information at > http://www.esug.org/conferences/2011 > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011/Student+Volunteers+program > > We hope to see you there and have fun together. > > > Ze ESUG board_______________________________________________ > Board mailing list > Board(a)lists.esug.org

March 1, 2011

ESUG 2011 Call for Contributions

by Stéphane Ducasse

19th International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions Barcelona, Spain September 20-26 2011; Camp Smalltalk September 20-21 http://esug.org/Conferences/2011/ This call includes: Developer program Free ESUG tickets International Workshop http://esug.org/Conferences/2011/International-Workshop-on-Smalltalk-Techno… Student Volunteer http://esug.org/Conferences/2011/Student+Volunteers+program Camp Smalltalk: Saturday 20th - Sunday 21st August 2011. ESUG conference: Monday 22nd - Friday 26th August 2011. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For the past 19 years, the European Smalltalk User Group (ESUG) has organised the International Smalltalk Conference, a lively forum on cutting edge software technologies that attract people from both academia and industry for a whole week. The attendees are both engineers using Smalltalk in business and students and teachers using Smalltalk both for research and didactic purposes. As every year, this year's edition of the largest European Smalltalk event will include the regular Smalltalk developers conference with renowned invited speakers, a Smalltalk camp that proves fruitful for interactions and discussions. Besides, this year will be held the - 7th edition of the Innovation Technology Awards where prizes will be awarded to authors of best pieces of Smalltalk-related projects - an international workshop on Smalltalk and dynamic languages http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2011/International-Workshop-on-Sm… - ESUG will offer 10 free entrance tickets. To get a free ticket you should send a mail to the esug board (board(a)esug.org) Subject: [ESUG 2011 Free entrance] + your name And you should write a small motivation. You can support the ESUG conference in many different ways: * Sponsor the conference. New sponsoring packages are described at http://www.esug.org/supportesug/becomeasponsor/ * Submit a talk, a software or a paper to one of the events. See below. * Attend the conference. We'd like to beat the previous record of attendance (156 participants at Brest and 170 people at Amsterdam, 150 at Barcelona)! * Students can get free registration and hosting if they enroll into the the Student Volunteers program. See below. Developers Forum: International Smalltalk Developers Conference ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This year we are looking for YOUR experience on using Smalltalk. In addition, we are looking for tutorials. The list of topics includes, but is not limited to the following: * XP practices * Development tools * Experience reports * Model driven development * Web development * Team management * Meta-Modeling * Security * New libraries & frameworks * Educational material * Embedded systems and robotics * SOA and Web services * Interaction with other programming languages Submissions due on 1 July 2010 Notification of acceptance on 5 of July 2010 More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2011 How to submit? ------------------ Pay attention: the places are limited so do not wait till the last minute to apply. Prospective presenters should submit a request to board(a)esug.org AND stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr following the template below. Please use this template since the emails will be automatically processed! Subject: [ESUG 2011 Developers] + your name First Name: Last Name: Email where you can always be reached: Title: Abstract: Bio: Any presentation not respecting this form will be discarded automatically Innovation Technology Award ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are proud to announce the 6th Innovation Technology Awards. The top 3 teams with the most innovative software will receive, respectively, 500 Euros, 300 Euros and 200 Euros during an awards ceremony at the conference. Developers of any Smalltalk-based software are welcome to compete. This year we will request 3-5min videos. More information at http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011/Innovation+Technology+Awards Student Volunteer Program ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you are a student wanting to attend ESUG, have you considered being a student volunteer? Student volunteers help keep the conference running smoothly; in return, they have free accommodations, while still having most of the time to enjoy the conference. More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2011 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011/Student+Volunteers+program We hope to see you there and have fun together. Ze ESUG board_______________________________________________ Board mailing list Board(a)lists.esug.org

March 1, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] ***IMPORTANT***: Pharo consortium call for letter of intention

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Are you accepting this letter in the Deep Smalltalk course? cheers Mariano On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Dear Pharoers and Smalltalkers at large, > > We are pursuing an effort to bring Pharo to the next level: we will set up > a consortium of pharo users (university, user groups) and industrial > partners. Our goal is to build a legal infrastructure that will be able to > sustain the development of Pharo and improve its future. As an example, we > would like to be able to collect funds (ways as to be determined - we > foresee a membership model or moral license) to pay engineering tasks to be > performed such as improving the virtual machine, network libraries, better > JIT support. To make it short we would like to give a chance to our > community to grow and structure itself so that Pharo can get stronger and > that risk (truck factor) gets minimized. > > We are contacting you to know if your company/research group/individuals > would be interested to support such effort. Showing such interest is > strategically important for us and INRIA which could also support such > effort. Attached is the letter of support that we will collect once signed > and scanned ( stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr / faxed at: 00 33 (0)3 59 57 78 > 50) > The letter is a letter stating that you would be interested depending on > the final setup and condition. We will decide together the model but we want > to make sure that everybody can participate. > > > Thanks for your support > > The Pharo Board > > M. Denker, S. Ducasse, and A. Lienhard > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

March 1, 2011