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Re: [Esug-list] ESUG sponsors world.st .... forum.world.st OS stats

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Cool. Can you give us more info? For example, there are aprox 300 readers every day. Now...do that contemplate the forums? which part of that 300 daily guys are from the forums instead of the website? Can we see the pages where people come from? Thanks Mariano On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I just wanted to share that ESUG has continued their sponsorship for the > world.st domain name. As I was going through the Google Analytics (new > Google Analytics UI is great by the way) I thought I'd share an interesting > statistic: > > Visitors of forum.world.st: > - 50% are Windows users > - 25% use Macs > - 20% Linux > and interestingly enough in 4th spot is the iPad (2%) followed closely by > the iPhone (with 1.75% more than double as many as Androids at 0.8%) > > http://forum.world.st/file/n3449309/forum_os_stats.png > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/ESUG-sponsors-world-st-forum-world-st-OS-stats-tp3449… > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

April 14, 2011

ESUG sponsors world.st .... forum.world.st OS stats

by Geert Claes

I just wanted to share that ESUG has continued their sponsorship for the world.st domain name. As I was going through the Google Analytics (new Google Analytics UI is great by the way) I thought I'd share an interesting statistic: Visitors of forum.world.st: - 50% are Windows users - 25% use Macs - 20% Linux and interestingly enough in 4th spot is the iPad (2%) followed closely by the iPhone (with 1.75% more than double as many as Androids at 0.8%) http://forum.world.st/file/n3449309/forum_os_stats.png -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ESUG-sponsors-world-st-forum-world-st-OS-stats-tp3449… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 14, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Success story: BPM-Suite OfficeTalk

by Josef Springer

The Smalltalk based Business-Process-Management-Solution *OfficeTalk*: http://www.joops.com/OfficeTalkFlyer.htm mit freundlichen Gru"?en / best regards, Josef Springer (Gescha"ftsleitung/Management) Postal Address _Josef.Springer@joops.com_ Orlando-di-Lasso Str. 2 D-85640 Putzbrunn Phone Office +49 (0)89 600 6920 Phone Fax +49 (0)89 600 69220 Web Web http://www.joops.com JOOPS (HRB Mu"nchen 86239) *-- the software company --*

April 12, 2011

Success story: YesPlan.be

by Geert Claes

Smalltalk-based event planning software: http://www.yesplan.be www.yesplan.be -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Success-story-YesPlan-be-tp3443937p3443937.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 12, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Esug'10 videos down?

by James Robertson

I have fallen behind in posting those; I will get back to preparing and posting the content this week. Sorry bout the delay! meanwhile, while I won't have any video from StS 11, I will have audio for a large part of the conference coming in my podcast stream. On Apr 10, 2011, at 2:24 PM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > Hi guys, > > http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/ is 404'd, is there somewhere else one can find all videos from ESUG 2010? At James Robertson's site and vimeo there are some missing. > > Thanks! > > Bernat Romagosa. > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org James Robertson http://www.jarober.com jarober(a)gmail.com

April 10, 2011

Fwd: [Seaside] Should I become a Seasider? (spreading smalltalk)

by Dale Henrichs

For those who don't subscribe to the Seaside mailing list, read Pat's response at the bottom of the message ... Pat is a well-known and respected ruby on rails developer. He earns his living in ruby, but chooses Smalltalk to start his own business ... Pat isn't the first rubyist to find Smalltalk a better and more productive environment for doing development and he won't be the last... Dale Begin forwarded message: From: Pat Maddox <patmaddox(a)me.com<mailto:patmaddox@me.com>> Date: April 9, 2011 9:06:02 PM PDT To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org<mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Should I become a Seasider? Reply-To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org<mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Ralph Boland wrote: This post is about making a living as a web developer using Seaside. I am an unemployed software developer in Calgary (1,000,000 people), Alberta, Canada. I have used Squeak for years but I have found no Smalltalk work in Calgary and in fact know of only one small company in Calgary that uses Smalltalk. I know very little about Seaside. My impression is that websites developed using Seaside are somewhat slower than with other web development tools and that Seaside uses more memory (I assume on the server side) than other web development tools. Nevertheless there are web developers using Seaside successfully. Are these impressions correct? What I am wondering is should I learn Seaside and then attempt to sell my web development services in Calgary? My impression is that: 1) No one in Calgary has ever heard of Seaside so selling my services would be difficult. 2) Since I should be able to develop web sites faster using Seaside I should be able to offer my services at a discount and hopefully be able to find business that way. But since no one but myself (at least locally) would be able to maintain the web sites, potential customers are going to be very shy. Are these impressions correct? Lets assume I decide to become a web developer (something I know almost nothing about) using Seaside as my competitive edge. To my knowledge I would be the only Seaside web developer in Calgary. 1) How long (starting basically from scratch) is it going to take before I am competent; or at least competent enough to seek clients? Assume I am a competent Squeak developer. 2) Which version(s) of Smalltalk should I use? I know Squeak and have used Visualworks in the distant past. 3) How screwed will my clients be if my ticker stops unexpectedly. Can Seaside developers from outside Calgary pick up the slack for my hypothetical clients? 4) Is there any areas within the web development would that I should concentrate on or avoid? 5) Is there any additional software/hardware that I would need other than my home computer (running Ubuntu) and Squeak/Seaside? My resources for investments is very limited. Are there other questions that I should have asked? Starting a business is generally a tough deal so please don't butter me up with glowing reviews of Seaside. My suggestion is to learn Seaside and use it to build side projects of your own. You've probably got some ideas, and Seaside is the way to go there. The IDE (Pharo) + components + continuations combine to blow everything else out of the water. I say this as a pretty sharp Rails developer - nothing even comes close to development speed in Seaside. That's a big advantage. It gives you free license to experiment with ideas. Also, because everything is smalltalk code and everything is an object, you have a much more flexible, understandable system. Right now I've got some beta users who can benefit from features that probably wouldn't be useful to anyone else...normally I'd say, "Sorry, I'm not building that," but considering that I can build a little component in less than an hour, and plug it in only for their account, it's worth it to me to do it. I haven't been doing this for long, but I'm comfortable customizing a lot more of my app for certain customers, because it's just so easy to do. I'm using Seaside to build my startup projects because it's a huge technical advantage. I earn money right now by doing contract work, and as much as I'd love to use Seaside in those gigs, I feel like that would be screwing over my clients. They're going to have a hell of a time finding someone to maintain it when I leave. Building a business of any sort is challenging enough, as you may already know and are definitely about to find out. Don't compound the headaches by throwing a niche technology like Seaside into the mix. Pat_______________________________________________ seaside mailing list seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org<mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

April 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Esug'10 videos down?

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 10, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > Hi guys, > > http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/ is 404'd, is there somewhere else one can find all videos from ESUG 2010? At James Robertson's site and vimeo there are some missing. > > Everything is in the archive: http://esug.org/data/ESUG2010/ mostly .flv raw files, I copied James' vimeo files, too. I am sure the objectfusion.fr page was omited because of the updated website... they have now an english one: http://www.objectfusion.fr/en/index.html I am sure they will restore it when the dust settles. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 10, 2011

Esug'10 videos down?

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi guys, http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/ is 404'd, is there somewhere else one can find all videos from ESUG 2010? At James Robertson's site and vimeo there are some missing. Thanks! Bernat Romagosa.

April 10, 2011

'spreading smalltalk'

by Jean Marshall and Andy Berry

Hi! Here's an article I wrote 'a few weeks ago' :-) on why I chose Smalltalk: http://www.tof.co.uk/stories/page14.html Hope it's positive enough! Regards, Andy

April 9, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Spreading Smalltalk

by Sean Allen

> The "what" is probably another reason why Smalltalk is still around after > all these years. Smalltalk does provide powerful developer productivity and > did lead the way in a myriad of other areas ... which other languages and/or > IDE's have since taken on board. > Im always interested in how much people think is the language ( which is pretty similar to something like ruby ) vs. the environment is responsible for the perceived productivity boosts?

April 9, 2011