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Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Lukas Renggli

Hmm, this is true :-( Maybe somebody changed that at some point for performance reasons? Private projects are definitely not visible in the original implementation ( source.lukas-renggli.ch has many private projects that don't show up). Lukas On Thursday, 11 August 2011, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt < http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt> is still there. >> >> It exposes the name, and sub sequentially the title and front-page of >> private projects. Nothing that you couldn't access if you guessed the >> name, but still ... > > Hi Lukas, > You don't need to guess their names because Squeaksource already shows them in the project list, even though they are private. > Cheers, > Richo > > >> >> Lukas >> >> On 10 August 2011 19:11, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> > >> > On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:44, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> > >> >>> - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt >> >> >> >> Please remove/fix this listing IMMEDIATELY, this exposes private projects! >> > >> > >> > Exposing private data was not supposed to happen, I'm very sorry for this! I am taking the mirror offline until this is fixed. >> > >> > Again, my apologies. >> > >> > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> > >> > Johan Fabry >> > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry >> > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch <http://www.lukas-renggli.ch> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org < http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org> > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 11, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Lukas Renggli

Hmm, this is true :-( Maybe somebody changed that at some point for performance reasons? Private projects are definitely not visible in the original implementation ( source.lukas-renggli.ch has many private projects that don't show up). Lukas On Thursday, 11 August 2011, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt < http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt> is still there. >> >> It exposes the name, and sub sequentially the title and front-page of >> private projects. Nothing that you couldn't access if you guessed the >> name, but still ... > > Hi Lukas, > You don't need to guess their names because Squeaksource already shows them in the project list, even though they are private. > Cheers, > Richo > > >> >> Lukas >> >> On 10 August 2011 19:11, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> > >> > On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:44, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> > >> >>> - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt >> >> >> >> Please remove/fix this listing IMMEDIATELY, this exposes private projects! >> > >> > >> > Exposing private data was not supposed to happen, I'm very sorry for this! I am taking the mirror offline until this is fixed. >> > >> > Again, my apologies. >> > >> > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> > >> > Johan Fabry >> > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry >> > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch <http://www.lukas-renggli.ch> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org < http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org> > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 11, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Ricardo Moran

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Lukas Renggli <renggli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt is still there. > > It exposes the name, and sub sequentially the title and front-page of > private projects. Nothing that you couldn't access if you guessed the > name, but still ... > Hi Lukas, You don't need to guess their names because Squeaksource already shows them in the project list, even though they are private. Cheers, Richo > > Lukas > > On 10 August 2011 19:11, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > > > On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:44, Lukas Renggli wrote: > > > >>> - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: > http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt > >> > >> Please remove/fix this listing IMMEDIATELY, this exposes private > projects! > > > > > > Exposing private data was not supposed to happen, I'm very sorry for > this! I am taking the mirror offline until this is fixed. > > > > Again, my apologies. > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > > > Johan Fabry > > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Aug. 11, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Johan Fabry

To clarify: - the mirror is offline. I have no control over scg.unibe.ch so I cannot take the list offline. :-( - source code of private projects was never mirrored. The last in more detail: I manually ran over the list looking for projects that are not visible in the Squeaksource project list page. If the 'Global' config setting for the project was set to 'No Access' the mirror does *NOT* have the .mcf for these packages. So the code of private projects remained private. On 10 Aug 2011, at 13:21, Lukas Renggli wrote: > http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt is still there. > > It exposes the name, and sub sequentially the title and front-page of > private projects. Nothing that you couldn't access if you guessed the > name, but still ... > > Lukas > > On 10 August 2011 19:11, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >> >> On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:44, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> >>>> - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt >>> >>> Please remove/fix this listing IMMEDIATELY, this exposes private projects! >> >> >> Exposing private data was not supposed to happen, I'm very sorry for this! I am taking the mirror offline until this is fixed. >> >> Again, my apologies. >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry >> jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Aug. 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Lukas Renggli

http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt is still there. It exposes the name, and sub sequentially the title and front-page of private projects. Nothing that you couldn't access if you guessed the name, but still ... Lukas On 10 August 2011 19:11, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:44, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >>> - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt >> >> Please remove/fix this listing IMMEDIATELY, this exposes private projects! > > > Exposing private data was not supposed to happen, I'm very sorry for this! I am taking the mirror offline until this is fixed. > > Again, my apologies. > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > > > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Johan Fabry

On 10 Aug 2011, at 12:44, Lukas Renggli wrote: >> - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt > > Please remove/fix this listing IMMEDIATELY, this exposes private projects! Exposing private data was not supposed to happen, I'm very sorry for this! I am taking the mirror offline until this is fixed. Again, my apologies. ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Aug. 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Stéphane Ducasse

Thanks! Great initiative. Stef On Aug 10, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Johan Fabry wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm happy to announce that we have a public, read-only Squeaksource mirror up and running at the Universidad de Chile. The URL is: http://www.dsal.cl/squeaksource/ TECHNICAL DETAILS BELOW. Feel free to broadcast this announcement! > > MOTIVATION: > For us, Switzerland is a long way and the connection to Squeaksource has always been painfully slow. We've set up this mirror to help to address this, and I imagine that it will be of use not only for the Chileans but also other countries in latin america, which is why I am announcing it here. > > ITS TRANSPARENT: > I've worked out a way to make the use of this mirror transparent when using Pharo 1.3: you just use monticello as always, and have a setting to redirect loads from Squeaksource to wherever you want. I have successfully loaded Moose and Seaside from the mirror using this package, so it should work for you. And I can tell you, it was blazingly fast: Seaside loaded in 5m45, and most of the time was spent compiling ... ;-) > > So try the mirror and the package out, send me your comments, we want to work on this to make Squeaksource a better experience for everybody. > > HOW TO USE from Pharo 1.3: > - Get the redirection package from http://www.squeaksource.com/MonticelloRedirect > - To load from the mirror instead of from Squeaksource, do-it of the following: > MRManager redirectFrom: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/' to: 'http://www.dsal.cl/squeaksource/'. > - To remove this redirection: MRManager removeFrom: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/'. > - See comments of MRManager for more info. MRManager list can be useful at some times. > - Only 2 classes, < 10 methods, not counting accessors. The trick is the use of MethodWrappers. > - I did not test this in Squeak or other versions of Pharo. Feel free to try it out in your environment and send me patches if needed. > - There is no UI, contributions are welcome!! > > DETAILS ON THE MIRROR > - It's a full copy of Squeaksource, updated daily. > - The mirror is read-only: if you want to make a commit you still have to do it in Squeaksource. This is to avoid all the complications of distributed writes. > - Updates happen once a day, before midnight Chilean time. Updates take typically (up till now) 200 minutes (!), average download speed here is 200KB/s :-( > - The Squeaksource team has been so kind as to provide a list of the packages that are in Squeaksource, refreshed daily and we pass this to wget (with some massaging of the data inbetween). > - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt > - The software that does the mirror is available here: https://github.com/vramiro/easy-wget-mirror > > MANY THANKS TO: > - Daniel Galdames for doing the original mirroring tests > - Victor Ramiro for taking Daniels' work and putting it in production > - The Squeaksource team for providing the daily list of packages, especially Fabrizio Perin and Mircea Lungu > - You for trying it out and telling us about it! > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry > jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > > > > >

Aug. 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Lukas Renggli

> - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt Please remove/fix this listing IMMEDIATELY, this exposes private projects! Lukas -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch

Aug. 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Johan Fabry

Yes, we respect private projects: we only mirror files that are downloadable without having to log in. Private projects should not be downloadable without having to log in. On 10 Aug 2011, at 11:15, Philippe Marschall wrote: > Does this respect private projects? > > Cheers > Philippe ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Aug. 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] LatAm Squeaksource Mirror

by Philippe Marschall

2011/8/10 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>: > Hi all, > > I'm happy to announce that we have a public, read-only Squeaksource mirror up and running at the Universidad de Chile. The URL is: http://www.dsal.cl/squeaksource/ TECHNICAL DETAILS BELOW. Feel free to broadcast this announcement! > > MOTIVATION: > For us, Switzerland is a long way and the connection to Squeaksource has always been painfully slow. We've set up this mirror to help to address this, and I imagine that it will be of use not only for the Chileans but also other countries in latin america, which is why I am announcing it here. > > ITS TRANSPARENT: > I've worked out a way to make the use of this mirror transparent when using Pharo 1.3: you just use monticello as always, and have a setting to redirect loads from Squeaksource to wherever you want. I have successfully loaded Moose and Seaside from the mirror using this package, so it should work for you. And I can tell you, it was blazingly fast: Seaside loaded in 5m45, and most of the time was spent compiling ... ;-) > > So try the mirror and the package out, send me your comments, we want to work on this to make Squeaksource a better experience for everybody. > > HOW TO USE from Pharo 1.3: > - Get the redirection package from http://www.squeaksource.com/MonticelloRedirect > - To load from the mirror instead of from Squeaksource, do-it of the following: > MRManager redirectFrom: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/' to: 'http://www.dsal.cl/squeaksource/'. > - To remove this redirection: MRManager removeFrom: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/'. > - See comments of MRManager for more info. MRManager list can be useful at some times. > - Only 2 classes, < 10 methods, not counting accessors. The trick is the use of MethodWrappers. > - I did not test this in Squeak or other versions of Pharo. Feel free to try it out in your environment and send me patches if needed. > - There is no UI, contributions are welcome!! > > DETAILS ON THE MIRROR > - It's a full copy of Squeaksource, updated daily. > - The mirror is read-only: if you want to make a commit you still have to do it in Squeaksource. This is to avoid all the complications of distributed writes. > - Updates happen once a day, before midnight Chilean time. Updates take typically (up till now) 200 minutes (!), average download speed here is 200KB/s :-( > - The Squeaksource team has been so kind as to provide a list of the packages that are in Squeaksource, refreshed daily and we pass this to wget (with some massaging of the data inbetween). > - The Squeaksource list of packages is available here: http://scg.unibe.ch/download/SSProjectList/projectList.txt > - The software that does the mirror is available here: https://github.com/vramiro/easy-wget-mirror > > MANY THANKS TO: > - Daniel Galdames for doing the original mirroring tests > - Victor Ramiro for taking Daniels' work and putting it in production > - The Squeaksource team for providing the daily list of packages, especially Fabrizio Perin and Mircea Lungu > - You for trying it out and telling us about it! Does this respect private projects? Cheers Philippe

Aug. 10, 2011