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Bye, bye Jtalk... Hello Amber!

by Nicolas Petton

As some of you may know there is a new Smalltalk in town - and up until today it was called Jtalk. After a furious three week development period after the ESUG 2011 conference (where Jtalk raised some eyebrows) we are now making a first release humbly numbered 0.9. We are also taking the opportunity to pick a slicker name for Jtalk - Amber! New website is at: http://www.amber-lang.net So, why would you take a look at Amber? In our opinion Amber is perfectly positioned for the HTML5 onslaught and the explosion of all-things-javascript like for example Nodejs. It is a Smalltalk that plays well with others and can seamlessly use Javascript libraries. At the same time Amber feels like a *real* Smalltalk, the environment is all there including Workspace, Transcript, Browser, senders/implementors/references to class, TestRunner, Inspectors, code editing with syntax coloring and a Debugger. There is no image, but all compilation is incremental. Below follows a summary of the massive changes since ESUG that triggered us to make a first release. We hope you join us in developing Amber and having fun! There is already work being made in using Amber on top of Java using Rhino, using Amber for making games and lots more. Fork at github, join in #amber-lang on freenode and hop onto the mailing list. regards, Nicolas & Göran (and thanks to Laurent, David, Bernat, Stefan, Raimon, Alexandre, Dale, Juraj, Ken, Pavel and everyone else that have been involved) --------------------------------------- Language, compiler and runtime - New 100x faster parser built using PEGjs instead of the old parser built using PetitParser. - New much faster ChunkParser implementation in handwritten Amber instead of using PetitParser. - Improved parsing error report with quoted source code plus marker pinpointing parsing error. - Removed PetitParser since it is no longer needed by Amber itself. - Added compiler optimizations in the form of speculative inlining of specific messages and control structures. - Added support for dynamic Arrays, just like in Squeak/Pharo. - Added support for similar dynamic Dictionaries, not seen in other Smalltalks. - Added & and | as allowed binary selectors and implemented them in Boolean. - Added a Set implementation. - Added basic support for Packages, dependency management coming soon. ...and various extensions, enhancements and bug fixes to the library classes. Development environment - A working Debugger with integrated inspector, proceed etc. - A structure with multiple different Amber environments in different directories. - A working amberc command line compiler including a Makefile for recompiling the whole Amber. - Enabled TestRunner in the IDE for running unit tests based on SUnit. - Added "File in" button in Workspace to easily paste and filein source code in chunk format in the IDE. - Added "Rename package" and "Remove package" buttons to browser that use the new Package model. - Added a standalone webDAV server in Amber so that it is simpler to get up and running and able to commit code locally. Example code and ports - Ported ProfStef interactive tutorial, available on Amber homepage (www.amber-lang.net/learn.html) but also in examples directory. - Included the ESUG presentation as an example also in the examples directory. - Several new examples running on Node.js and webOS included, all with Makefiles. Various other things - Issue tracker on github now used as primary source, closed a bunch of reported issues. - Wiki pages on github with information on how to port code from other Smalltalks, lists of articles, tutorials, roadmap and more. -- Nicolas Petton http://www.nicolas-petton.fr

Sept. 13, 2011

long ago morphic demos

by David West

the early distributions of squeak included a project with several morphic demos: clock, racetrack, lens, scrolling text through a complicated space, etc. Are these still available somewhere? under what name? Or, do I have to load and old version and file-out? thanks davew

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Francisco Garau

It looks like a credible internal memo http://pastebin.com/NUMTTrKj - Francisco On 13 Sep 2011, at 12:26, Nick Ager <nick.ager(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A little more information I've found: http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t > > On 11 September 2011 00:13, James Ladd <james_ladd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > we should petition them to support Smalltalk not a new language. > > > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 14:42:56 -0500 > > From: agarcia(a)tdexa.com > > CC: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk? > > > > > Interesting comment. > > > > I was extrapolating from the idea that SUN's support for java is what > > made it successful > > despite it was obsolete from the beginning. > > > > Also what Microsoft did with C# > > > > So a Smalltalk like language with the support from Google would be nice > > and with lots of potential to become a commercial success... > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Philippe Marschall > > <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: > > >> oh please... please God > > >> an Smalltalk like language > > >> with the corporate sponsorship > > >> of a gigant like Google... > > >> > > >> Would be amazing > > > > > > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and > > > expecting different results. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Philippe > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 13, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Nick Ager

A little more information I've found: http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t On 11 September 2011 00:13, James Ladd <james_ladd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > we should petition them to support Smalltalk not a new language. > > > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 14:42:56 -0500 > > From: agarcia(a)tdexa.com > > CC: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk? > > > > > Interesting comment. > > > > I was extrapolating from the idea that SUN's support for java is what > > made it successful > > despite it was obsolete from the beginning. > > > > Also what Microsoft did with C# > > > > So a Smalltalk like language with the support from Google would be nice > > and with lots of potential to become a commercial success... > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Philippe Marschall > > <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: > > >> oh please... please God > > >> an Smalltalk like language > > >> with the corporate sponsorship > > >> of a gigant like Google... > > >> > > >> Would be amazing > > > > > > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and > > > expecting different results. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Philippe > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

Sept. 13, 2011

Smalltalk Stammtisch Zürich: Tuesday, September 27, 2011

by Lukas Renggli

Dear Smalltalkers, After the last successful meeting in February, we plan to do another Smalltalk Stammtisch (beer drinking event) at the same location: - Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 18:00 - Steinfels Zürich, http://www.steinfels-zuerich.ch/ - http://g.co/maps/8zd59 Please let us know if you plan to attend so that we can book a table. Lukas and Philippe

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by James Ladd

we should petition them to support Smalltalk not a new language. > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 14:42:56 -0500 > From: agarcia(a)tdexa.com > CC: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk? > > Interesting comment. > > I was extrapolating from the idea that SUN's support for java is what > made it successful > despite it was obsolete from the beginning. > > Also what Microsoft did with C# > > So a Smalltalk like language with the support from Google would be nice > and with lots of potential to become a commercial success... > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Philippe Marschall > <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: > >> oh please... please God > >> an Smalltalk like language > >> with the corporate sponsorship > >> of a gigant like Google... > >> > >> Would be amazing > > > > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and > > expecting different results. > > > > Cheers > > Philippe > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 10, 2011

Looking for a young engineer

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi We are looking for a young engineer to work around Moose and Java integration. - 1 year + 1 year Keywords: Smalltalk, Java, C#, Software analysis, software metrics, Software evolution, Visualization Job Description: The engineer will work on the following task - scaling verveineJ (a Java extractor) based on JDT/Eclipse - bridging Java tools (Coverage, Metrics tools) with Moose - Working on other extractors - Presenting Moose to other engineers within INRIA Constraints: you have to get your master at max two years ago. Location: INRIA Lille Nord Europe One hour Paris/ 30 from Bruxelles Team: RMOD :) http://rmod.lille.inria.fr Salary: 2 495,16 euros brut / mois (but the state already took 30% of the real salary) so brutto means that you may have to pay less than a month salary as taxes.

Sept. 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Alejandro Garcia

Interesting comment. I was extrapolating from the idea that SUN's support for java is what made it successful despite it was obsolete from the beginning. Also what Microsoft did with C# So a Smalltalk like language with the support from Google would be nice and with lots of potential to become a commercial success... On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: >> oh please... please God >> an Smalltalk like language >> with the corporate sponsorship >> of a gigant like Google... >> >> Would be amazing > > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and > expecting different results. > > Cheers > Philippe >

Sept. 9, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Philippe Marschall

2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: > oh please... please God > an Smalltalk like language > with the corporate sponsorship > of a gigant like Google... > > Would be amazing The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Cheers Philippe

Sept. 9, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Davorin Rusevljan

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com> wrote: > oh please... please God > an Smalltalk like language > with the corporate sponsorship > of a gigant like Google... > > Would be amazing well, I guess waiting a bit for the real presentation would be a good idea. Dart's connection to Smalltalk is currently just an extrapolation. Not that I would have anything against if it turns true, but currently there are very few facts supporting it. Davorin Rusevljan http://www.cloud208.com/

Sept. 9, 2011