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Re: [Esug-list] [Dutch] Escrow agreement Smalltalk projects

by stephane ducasse

rob sending this mail to pharo mailing-lists can help too :). I will forward it there. Stef > Dear Smalltalkers, > This issue has been raised by a small Dutch company that delivers (Pharo/Seaside) Smalltalk solutions. > When you, as an individual or small company, deliver Smalltalk solutions there is an implied risk for your customers in case of illness or such. > This risk can be mitigated through an agreement with other developers/companies in which they state that they are willing and able to take development and support upon themselves, temporary or (semi-) permanent. > Of course the process to get this formally agreed is a bit more complex, but this mail is only to ask whether there are (in this case preferably Dutch) Smalltalk developers willing to cooperate on this issue and possibly participate in some kind of legal agreement to provide more robust support to our customers. > Please reply to me personally, unless of course you want your response to benefit the broader Smalltalk community on this mailing list. > Rob Vens - rob(a)sepher.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Dec. 18, 2011

[Dutch] Escrow agreement Smalltalk projects

by Rob Vens

Dear Smalltalkers, This issue has been raised by a small Dutch company that delivers (Pharo/Seaside) Smalltalk solutions. When you, as an individual or small company, deliver Smalltalk solutions there is an implied risk for your customers in case of illness or such. This risk can be mitigated through an agreement with other developers/companies in which they state that they are willing and able to take development and support upon themselves, temporary or (semi-) permanent. Of course the process to get this formally agreed is a bit more complex, but this mail is only to ask whether there are (in this case preferably Dutch) Smalltalk developers willing to cooperate on this issue and possibly participate in some kind of legal agreement to provide more robust support to our customers. Please reply to me personally, unless of course you want your response to benefit the broader Smalltalk community on this mailing list. Rob Vens - rob(a)sepher.nl

Dec. 18, 2011

UK Smalltalk User Group Meeting on Monday 19th December

by Ayers, Jason

For UK-based Smalltalkers: Just a quick reminder that the next UK Smalltalk User Group ( http://www.uksmalltalk.org/ ) meeting is on this coming Monday, 19th December at 6.30pm at it¹s usual location The Counting House. It has a Christmas theme. Mulled wine and mince pies courtesy of Cincom when you arrive and drinks at their expense for the evening. If that isn¹t enough to tempt you we are discussing the ideas for next year¹s meet ups. We have around 50 ideas and only 12 evenings. This is your chance to help decide which will make interesting and entertaining events. Then Nick and I can get on with trying to arrange them. Another thought is if you can bring a small Smalltalk present. An idea or useful thing you know or have learnt this year about Smalltalk that you think the rest of us might not know or need reminding of. Again Cincom is giving a small prize for the best of these presents. Newcomers are most welcome, whatever your experience or interest in Smalltalk. Jason

Dec. 16, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Looking for a language/environment for Analysis of Algorithms course

by Alexandre Bergel

> I have decided that rather than assignments, I'm going to have weekly marked labs. In my lecture I do the following: after a brief introduction to Pharo, they start to program by doing the exercises of Pharo By example, the tutorial of Mondrian, Glamour and some exercises with EyeSee. Next, I give to each of them a short project in which they have to implement algorithms. The projects I picked are either about Moose, Mondrian or Pharo. I further tell them that if they do a good thing, then they will become worldwide famous by having their code being including in a mainstream distribution and their name publicized. I therefore avoid short scholar exercises that cannot be valorized. Some are doing good, other not so good, like always. > Some of those will be paper exercises, but I would like to have a simple language for them to express their algorithms, where the performance analysis would be particularly clear, and it would be a huge bonus if we could bolt an algorithm visualizer/animator on the side. My students use Mondrian and EyeSee, this is cool since they quickly get a visual feedback. Mondrian and EyeSee are interactive, come with many examples and are easy to use. > I'd probably use smalltalk if I had my druthers (just because it's so malleable), but I'm guessing that wouldn't be super popular with the students (as they only had a bit of Smalltalk 3 semesters earlier as part of an OO course, and Java is probably the language they know best). Smalltalk is indeed not mainstream, however I do not face resistance from the students or other professors against using it. I tell them exactly that: - many students of the previous semesters of my lecture got significant results because of Smalltalk, ranging from publication in the ACM digital library to winning International ACM Student Research Competition. This is important for them when they apply for a grant - by using Smalltalk, they can be part of a network (research projects, community) > Any suggestions? Moose? any other Smalltalkers projects that might be relevant? If you need material, just ask. I've got plenty. Cheers, Alexandre -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Dec. 15, 2011

Swiss Olympiad of Informatics

by Nowak, Helge

Dear Smalltalkers, shortly before the end of the year I was made aware of this interesting event: http://www.soi.ch/ I hope you knew it earlier and have already submitted solutions to the tasks given. ;-) And, getting answers to your questions from Donald Knuth will certainly be exciting as well. Cheers Helge P.S. if you have a solution to the Euro Crisis: don't send to politicians. They won't listen anyway :-) ************************************************************** Helge Nowak Technical Account Manager Cincom Smalltalk Cincom Systems GmbH & Co. oHG Am Kronberger Hang 4 D-65824 Schwalbach/Ts. Tel.: +49-(0)89-89664494 Mobil: +49-(0)172-7400402 Fax: +49-(0)89-89664495 Email: mailto:hnowak@cincom.com <mailto:hnowak@cincom.com> Twitter: @nowagil Web: http://www.cincom.com <http://www.cincom.com/> All about Cincom Smalltalk: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com <http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/> A standpoint is an intellectual horizon of radius zero. -- Albert Einstein Geschäftsführer/Managing Directors: Thomas M. Nies, Gerald L. Shawhan oHG mit Sitz/based in Schwalbach/Ts. (Amtsgericht Königstein/Ts. HRA 2653) Pers. haftender Gesellschafter/Partner liable to unlimited extent: Cincom Systems Verwaltungsgesellschaft mbH (Amtsgericht Königstein/Ts. HRB 5069) **************************************************************

Dec. 15, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Looking for a language/environment for Analysis of Algorithms course

by stephane ducasse

On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:39 PM, Dave Mason wrote: > Hi, > > I'm teaching a 3rd year course in Advanced Algorithms, using Dasgupta, Papadimitriou & Vazirani in January. I would love to have some lectures support with Smalltalk > I have decided that rather than assignments, I'm going to have weekly marked labs. Some of those will be paper exercises, but I would like to have a simple language for them to express their algorithms, where the performance analysis would be particularly clear, and it would be a huge bonus if we could bolt an algorithm visualizer/animator on the side. > > I'd probably use smalltalk if I had my druthers (just because it's so malleable), but I'm guessing that wouldn't be super popular with the students (as they only had a bit of Smalltalk 3 semesters earlier as part of an OO course, and Java is probably the language they know best). > Do it in Smalltalk :) Start small. There are books around. > If I had more time, I might build a parser for a language that compiled to the SqueakVM, but I don't. But why do you need that. If you propose some classes for basic data structures. You could have some mondrian scripts to display graphs you do not have to load completely Moose. > Any suggestions? Moose? any other Smalltalkers projects that might be relevant? > > Thanks, and I'll post a summary if there's any interest+response. > > ../Dave > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Dec. 13, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Looking for a language/environment for Analysis of Algorithms course

by Sean P. DeNigris

Dave Mason wrote > > Any suggestions? Moose? any other Smalltalkers projects that might be > relevant? > Of course I say use Smalltalk and get them excited about it, but after that, maybe Ruby? It has commercial relevance and a lot of inspiration from St; in fact, it's a lot like coding in Smalltalk but, like any language without a live environment, your image crashes after every doIt. Sean p.s. I don't know if you're getting private messages via Nabble; I'm trying to get more information about the FFI library you demoed at ESUG this year -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Looking-for-a-language-environment-for-Analysis-of-Al… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 13, 2011

Looking for a language/environment for Analysis of Algorithms course

by Dave Mason

Hi, I'm teaching a 3rd year course in Advanced Algorithms, using Dasgupta, Papadimitriou & Vazirani in January. I have decided that rather than assignments, I'm going to have weekly marked labs. Some of those will be paper exercises, but I would like to have a simple language for them to express their algorithms, where the performance analysis would be particularly clear, and it would be a huge bonus if we could bolt an algorithm visualizer/animator on the side. I'd probably use smalltalk if I had my druthers (just because it's so malleable), but I'm guessing that wouldn't be super popular with the students (as they only had a bit of Smalltalk 3 semesters earlier as part of an OO course, and Java is probably the language they know best). If I had more time, I might build a parser for a language that compiled to the SqueakVM, but I don't. Any suggestions? Moose? any other Smalltalkers projects that might be relevant? Thanks, and I'll post a summary if there's any interest+response. ../Dave

Dec. 12, 2011

Videos ESUG 2010 on Youtube

by Marcus Denker

Now *complete* 54 videos, 35 hours play time. http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL431285A978F581BB -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Dec. 12, 2011

www.smalltalk.org

by Jean Marshall and Andy Berry

Hi! I hope you're all OK and having lots of fun! I was in the library the other day, got bored and sat down with one of their computers. 'What do I do now?', I asked myself and decided, quite quickly, to do a Google on Smalltalk. The first site was www.smalltalk.org and I noticed that it talked about the 2010 ESUG conference but had nothing more up-to-date. Could someone send them a message with some more recent stuff? Hope you all have a very Merry Christmas and an extremely Happy New Year! Regards, Andy

Dec. 11, 2011