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Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Udo Schneider

Hi, I once find a higher-res scan of the original Byte Balloon. It needs to be color-adjusted but maybe it helps: http://udos.s3.amazonaws.com/SmalltalkBalloon1998.jpg CU, Udo On 24.12.2011, at 03:29, Francois Stephany wrote: > Hi, > > I need to produce some documents about Smalltalk. I'd like to use the classical air balloon as a Smalltalk logo but I cannot find a good looking one in high resolution. Do you have any suggestion? > > Cheers, > > Francois > > -- > http://tulipemoutarde.be > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Francois Stephany

Woaw thanks =) On 24/12/11 00:52, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: > >> Thanks Marcus! >> >> I like that one: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/balloon.gif >> Is it available in higher resolution? Where does it come from? >> > I think from Bert Freudenberg... ah, yes: > > http://www.freudenbergs.de/bert/balloon.html

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: > Thanks Marcus! > > I like that one: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/balloon.gif > Is it available in higher resolution? Where does it come from? > I think from Bert Freudenberg... ah, yes: http://www.freudenbergs.de/bert/balloon.html -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Francois Stephany

Thanks Marcus! I like that one: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/balloon.gif Is it available in higher resolution? Where does it come from? On 24/12/11 00:36, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I need to produce some documents about Smalltalk. I'd like to use the classical air balloon as a Smalltalk logo but I cannot find a good looking one in high resolution. Do you have any suggestion? >> > There is a high-res scan of the smalltalk logo here: > > http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/ > > In addition, it has vector versions of the ESUG Logo. > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > -- http://tulipemoutarde.be BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 CA: +1 778 558 3225

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 24, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: > Hi, > > I need to produce some documents about Smalltalk. I'd like to use the classical air balloon as a Smalltalk logo but I cannot find a good looking one in high resolution. Do you have any suggestion? > There is a high-res scan of the smalltalk logo here: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/ In addition, it has vector versions of the ESUG Logo. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Dec. 24, 2011

Smalltalk logos

by Francois Stephany

Hi, I need to produce some documents about Smalltalk. I'd like to use the classical air balloon as a Smalltalk logo but I cannot find a good looking one in high resolution. Do you have any suggestion? Cheers, Francois -- http://tulipemoutarde.be

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [Dutch] Escrow agreement Smalltalk projects

by Johan Brichau

Hi Rob, The issue you raise is indeed very pertinent. But I wonder how any company can agree _beforehand_ to serve as a replacement to the original developers. There are many concerns that make it very hard to commit to such an agreement. For example, I would find it dangerous to commit to taking over a project without knowing the state of the source code. Because of that, I see more possibilities in a traditional escrow agreement between the company and its customer, combined with an association of companies using Smalltalk (Pharo?): - the traditional escrow agreement makes sure that the customer gets the source code so he can contact another Smalltalk Pharo company to continue the development - the existence of the association and its members demonstrates to the customer that he can always get in touch with other development companies that can continue working for him. There are discussions in the Pharo community to create such a consortium. Personally, I would prefer aligning like that. What do you think? What do the Pharo people think? cheers Johan On 18 Dec 2011, at 14:31, Rob Vens wrote: > Dear Smalltalkers, > This issue has been raised by a small Dutch company that delivers (Pharo/Seaside) Smalltalk solutions. > When you, as an individual or small company, deliver Smalltalk solutions there is an implied risk for your customers in case of illness or such. > This risk can be mitigated through an agreement with other developers/companies in which they state that they are willing and able to take development and support upon themselves, temporary or (semi-) permanent. > Of course the process to get this formally agreed is a bit more complex, but this mail is only to ask whether there are (in this case preferably Dutch) Smalltalk developers willing to cooperate on this issue and possibly participate in some kind of legal agreement to provide more robust support to our customers. > Please reply to me personally, unless of course you want your response to benefit the broader Smalltalk community on this mailing list. > Rob Vens - rob(a)sepher.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Dec. 21, 2011

Smalltalk the JVM and JetBrains ...

by James Ladd

Hey everyone, Smalltalk on the JVM, and JetBrains IDEA support! So this is the skinny. We've met the basic requirements original discussed with Jet Brains early in 2011 for Redline Smalltalk support to make it onto their roadmap. We need your help to get it moved up. Jet Brains has a voting system where registered users vote up features they want to see implemented. As of today, there is now one for Redline support. The next step is pretty simple... We need everyone to login with google/yahoo or sign up for a Jet Brains account and vote for Redline support.We need you to tweet about it.... to email people about it.... to google + about it. ... to stand on the street corner talking about how the world is going to come to an end unless this happens. This could be a big deal and your help is greatly appreciated. http://youtrack.jetbrains.net/issue/IDEA-79069

Dec. 20, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [Dutch] Escrow agreement Smalltalk projects

by Francois Stephany

Hi Rob, Nice initiative ! We should keep this discussion in a public place. It is quite hard to find freelance/companies providing Smalltalk support. It would be good to get some publicity and learn to know each other :) I'm proposing Smalltalk solutions more and more often (coming from a Ruby/Rails world). But I cannot provide as much as guarantee as I would like to my clients. Cheers, Francois On 18/12/11 05:31, Rob Vens wrote: > Dear Smalltalkers, > This issue has been raised by a small Dutch company that delivers (Pharo/Seaside) Smalltalk solutions. > When you, as an individual or small company, deliver Smalltalk solutions there is an implied risk for your customers in case of illness or such. > This risk can be mitigated through an agreement with other developers/companies in which they state that they are willing and able to take development and support upon themselves, temporary or (semi-) permanent. > Of course the process to get this formally agreed is a bit more complex, but this mail is only to ask whether there are (in this case preferably Dutch) Smalltalk developers willing to cooperate on this issue and possibly participate in some kind of legal agreement to provide more robust support to our customers. > Please reply to me personally, unless of course you want your response to benefit the broader Smalltalk community on this mailing list. > Rob Vens - rob(a)sepher.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- http://tulipemoutarde.be BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 CA: +1 778 558 3225

Dec. 20, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [Dutch] Escrow agreement Smalltalk projects

by Serge Stinckwich

Hi Rob, i don't see any specific about Smalltalk here. Every time that a company used a not so well known products or libraries, this risk could occurs. Even if the language is well known, i guess this is difficult to find someone that will replace the original company in a short period of time because you need to understand the domain of the client. Regards, 2011/12/18 Rob Vens <rob(a)sepher.nl> > Dear Smalltalkers, > This issue has been raised by a small Dutch company that delivers > (Pharo/Seaside) Smalltalk solutions. > When you, as an individual or small company, deliver Smalltalk solutions > there is an implied risk for your customers in case of illness or such. > This risk can be mitigated through an agreement with other > developers/companies in which they state that they are willing and able to > take development and support upon themselves, temporary or (semi-) > permanent. > Of course the process to get this formally agreed is a bit more complex, > but this mail is only to ask whether there are (in this case preferably > Dutch) Smalltalk developers willing to cooperate on this issue and possibly > participate in some kind of legal agreement to provide more robust support > to our customers. > Please reply to me personally, unless of course you want your response to > benefit the broader Smalltalk community on this mailing list. > Rob Vens - rob(a)sepher.nl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Serge Stinckwich UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC), Hanoi, Vietnam Matsuno Laboratory, Kyoto University, Japan (until 12/2011) http://www.mechatronics.me.kyoto-u.ac.jp/ Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Dec. 19, 2011