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Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Stéphane Ducasse

Thanks you all. This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news. Stef On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi Sport contributors >> >> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a >> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it >> uses Sport and Sport is licensed under >> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if >> Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his >> answer: >> >> Steph, >> >> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in >> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was >> written by different people. >> >> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. >> >> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can >> get a dual license LGPL/MIT. > > Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing. > > Cheers > Philippe > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 20, 2013

Camp Smalltalk ESUG 2013

by Sean P. DeNigris

When and where is it? The conference site says the page is forbidden and I can't seem to log in... Thanks! ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Camp-Smalltalk-ESUG-2013-tp4699588.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 19, 2013

ANN: Mercurial integration for Smalltalk/X IDE

by Jan Vrany

Hello, after 9 month of development and almost that many of use, I'm pleased to announce a first version of stx:libscm, a Mercurial integration into Smalltalk/X IDE. Available at: https://bitbucket.org/janvrany/stx-libscm Summary: - class browser integration: classes and packages can be committed right from the browser via menu. - file browser integration: provides convenient menus for performing common repository tasks like commit, update, push, pull, merge. - uses specialized smalltalk merge tool to merge .st source files which uses semantic diff/merge instead of text diff/merge. - provides "Smalltalkish", object-oriented API to Mercurial repositories using hg command line or command server internally. Best, Jan

July 19, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Philippe Marschall

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi Sport contributors > > Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a > Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it > uses Sport and Sport is licensed under > LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if > Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his > answer: > > Steph, > > We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in > principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was > written by different people. > > Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. > > So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can > get a dual license LGPL/MIT. Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing. Cheers Philippe

July 18, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Paolo Bonzini

Il 18/07/2013 12:19, Stéphane Ducasse ha scritto: > Hi Sport contributors > > Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a > Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because > it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under > LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce > if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his > answer: > >> Steph, >> >> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in >> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects >> was written by different people. >> >> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. >> > So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we > can get a dual license LGPL/MIT. I agree to MIT relicensing of all LGPL Smalltalk code I've ever written (_not_ GPL, that's another story). Paolo > And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that > a infinite minority > of programmers understand or even know. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

July 18, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Damien Cassou

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a > infinite minority > of programmers understand or even know. I think that, in theory, mixing LGPL (which is much less strict than GPL) and MIT is authorized. Still, it is simpler if everything is of the same license, I agree. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

July 18, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Dale K. Henrichs

I have ported SPORT to GemStone and I am in favor of an MIT license... Dale ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> To: "esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Members" <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:19:36 AM Subject: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses Hi Sport contributors Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer: <blockquote> Steph, We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people. Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT. And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know. Stef _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org </blockquote>

July 18, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Leandro Caniglia

I've made some small contributions to SPort in the past, so please have my authorization to change the license if needed. leandro caniglia ph.d. | chief technologist | caesar systems | accelerate confidently lcaniglia(a)caesarsystems.com | t: +1.281.598.8810 +1.281.617.2972 +54.11.4389.0126 | blog.caesarsystems.com | www.caesarsystems.com This message and any attached documents contain information from Caesar Systems LLC that may be confidential/trade secret and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not read, copy, distribute or use this information. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or by reply e-mail and then delete this message. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > thanks Janko :) > > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> > wrote: > > > Hi Stef, > > > > I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT > > licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect > > porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on > > Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed. > > > > Best regards > > Janko > > > > Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse: > >> Hi Sport contributors > >> > >> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a > >> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because > >> it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under > >> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce > >> if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his > >> answer: > >> > >>> Steph, > >>> > >>> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in > >>> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects > >>> was written by different people. > >>> > >>> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. > >>> > >> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we > >> can get a dual license LGPL/MIT. > >> > >> And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that > >> a infinite minority > >> of programmers understand or even know. > >> > >> Stef > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Esug-list mailing list > >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >> > > > > -- > > Janko Mivšek > > Aida/Web > > Smalltalk Web Application Server > > http://www.aidaweb.si > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

July 18, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Stéphane Ducasse

thanks Janko :) On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> wrote: > Hi Stef, > > I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT > licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect > porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on > Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed. > > Best regards > Janko > > Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse: >> Hi Sport contributors >> >> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a >> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because >> it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under >> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce >> if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his >> answer: >> >>> Steph, >>> >>> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in >>> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects >>> was written by different people. >>> >>> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. >>> >> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we >> can get a dual license LGPL/MIT. >> >> And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that >> a infinite minority >> of programmers understand or even know. >> >> Stef >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> > > -- > Janko Mivšek > Aida/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 18, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Janko Mivšek

Hi Stef, I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed. Best regards Janko Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse: > Hi Sport contributors > > Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a > Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because > it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under > LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce > if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his > answer: > >> Steph, >> >> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in >> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects >> was written by different people. >> >> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. >> > So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we > can get a dual license LGPL/MIT. > > And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that > a infinite minority > of programmers understand or even know. > > Stef > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

July 18, 2013