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Re: Object-centric breakpoint experiment during ESUG'24

by Steven Costiou

Hi, thank you very much for helping :) I totally understand the time issue and why people decline because of this. We need at least 6 participants, more is always good but not necessary at this point. I think doing it over lunch is impractical because by the time you get done, there might be no more food :p I will propose to each of you some agenda, ideally during a talk or two that you might want to sacrifice, or tuesday after the conference talks at the end of the day. Steven. Le 28/06/2024 à 13:56, Gordana Rakic via Esug-list a écrit : > > Yes, @Steven, maybe a session during the camp or Friday afternoon? > > I might be in also... > > Gordana > > > On 28. 6. 24. 13:30, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: >> Same here. Sorry :-( >> @Steven How about organizing a session during ESUG over a lunch break? >> >> Noury >> >> On Jun 25 2024, at 9:31 am, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm interested. The _only_ reason that made me not participate >> was indeed lack of time. But at ESUG there should be some. >> >> Norbert >> >> Am 24.06.2024 um 16:43 schrieb Steven Costiou >> <steven.costiou(a)inria.fr>: >> >> >> | >> >> Dear community, >> First, I would like to thanks again all the participants to >> our experiment with object-centric breakpoints in Pharo. >> Many people participated, and we plan to present our results >> in an informal manner at ESUG. >> However, from the scientifical point of view it would >> strenghten our analysis if we had more participants. >> The more participants we have, the more we can trust our >> results and take enlightened decisions about how to further >> develop the object-centric debugger. >> Therefore, the experiment remains open until July 10th >> (included). >> If you're interested you can still do it, the instructions >> are here >> https://github.com/Pharo-XP-Tools/XPImageGeneration/tree/exp-ocd >> Many people also declined to participate because of a lack of >> time, which we totally understand. >> This is why we also propose to you, if time is an issue, to >> participate to the experiment during the first days of esug. >> We can find a calm room in which we can supervise the >> experiment and collect your data (reminder: once in our >> server the data is anonymized). >> Please let us know if you would be potentially interested to >> participate in such setting during ESUG. >> Thanks in advance, >> Steven and Valentin, EVREF team. >> >> | >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list --esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> To unsubscribe send an email toesug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list --esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email toesug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org

July 5, 2024

Re: Object-centric breakpoint experiment during ESUG'24

by Gordana Rakic

Yes, @Steven, maybe a session during the camp or Friday afternoon? I might be in also... Gordana On 28. 6. 24. 13:30, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > Same here. Sorry :-( > @Steven How about organizing a session during ESUG over a lunch break? > > Noury > > On Jun 25 2024, at 9:31 am, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm interested. The _only_ reason that made me not participate was > indeed lack of time. But at ESUG there should be some. > > Norbert > > Am 24.06.2024 um 16:43 schrieb Steven Costiou > <steven.costiou(a)inria.fr>: > > > | > > Dear community, > First, I would like to thanks again all the participants to > our experiment with object-centric breakpoints in Pharo. > Many people participated, and we plan to present our results > in an informal manner at ESUG. > However, from the scientifical point of view it would > strenghten our analysis if we had more participants. > The more participants we have, the more we can trust our > results and take enlightened decisions about how to further > develop the object-centric debugger. > Therefore, the experiment remains open until July 10th (included). > If you're interested you can still do it, the instructions are > here > https://github.com/Pharo-XP-Tools/XPImageGeneration/tree/exp-ocd > Many people also declined to participate because of a lack of > time, which we totally understand. > This is why we also propose to you, if time is an issue, to > participate to the experiment during the first days of esug. > We can find a calm room in which we can supervise the > experiment and collect your data (reminder: once in our server > the data is anonymized). > Please let us know if you would be potentially interested to > participate in such setting during ESUG. > Thanks in advance, > Steven and Valentin, EVREF team. > > | > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list --esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email toesug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org

June 28, 2024

Re: Object-centric breakpoint experiment during ESUG'24

by Noury Bouraqadi

Same here. Sorry :-( @Steven How about organizing a session during ESUG over a lunch break? Noury On Jun 25 2024, at 9:31 am, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm interested. The _only_ reason that made me not participate was indeed lack of time. But at ESUG there should be some. > > Norbert > > > Am 24.06.2024 um 16:43 schrieb Steven Costiou <steven.costiou(a)inria.fr>: > > > > Dear community, > > First, I would like to thanks again all the participants to our experiment with object-centric breakpoints in Pharo. > > Many people participated, and we plan to present our results in an informal manner at ESUG. > > However, from the scientifical point of view it would strenghten our analysis if we had more participants. > > The more participants we have, the more we can trust our results and take enlightened decisions about how to further develop the object-centric debugger. > > Therefore, the experiment remains open until July 10th (included). > > If you're interested you can still do it, the instructions are here https://github.com/Pharo-XP-Tools/XPImageGeneration/tree/exp-ocd > > Many people also declined to participate because of a lack of time, which we totally understand. > > This is why we also propose to you, if time is an issue, to participate to the experiment during the first days of esug. > > We can find a calm room in which we can supervise the experiment and collect your data (reminder: once in our server the data is anonymized). > > Please let us know if you would be potentially interested to participate in such setting during ESUG. > > Thanks in advance, > > Steven and Valentin, EVREF team. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org

June 28, 2024

Re: Object-centric breakpoint experiment during ESUG'24

by Norbert Hartl

Hi, I'm interested. The _only_ reason that made me not participate was indeed lack of time. But at ESUG there should be some. Norbert > Am 24.06.2024 um 16:43 schrieb Steven Costiou <steven.costiou(a)inria.fr>: > > Dear community, > > First, I would like to thanks again all the participants to our experiment with object-centric breakpoints in Pharo. > Many people participated, and we plan to present our results in an informal manner at ESUG. > > However, from the scientifical point of view it would strenghten our analysis if we had more participants. > The more participants we have, the more we can trust our results and take enlightened decisions about how to further develop the object-centric debugger. > > Therefore, the experiment remains open until July 10th (included). > If you're interested you can still do it, the instructions are here https://github.com/Pharo-XP-Tools/XPImageGeneration/tree/exp-ocd > > Many people also declined to participate because of a lack of time, which we totally understand. > This is why we also propose to you, if time is an issue, to participate to the experiment during the first days of esug. > We can find a calm room in which we can supervise the experiment and collect your data (reminder: once in our server the data is anonymized). > > Please let us know if you would be potentially interested to participate in such setting during ESUG. > > Thanks in advance, > Steven and Valentin, EVREF team. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list -- esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > To unsubscribe send an email to esug-list-leave(a)lists.esug.org

June 25, 2024

Object-centric breakpoint experiment during ESUG'24

by Steven Costiou

Dear community, First, I would like to thanks again all the participants to our experiment with object-centric breakpoints in Pharo. Many people participated, and we plan to present our results in an informal manner at ESUG. However, from the scientifical point of view it would strenghten our analysis if we had more participants. The more participants we have, the more we can trust our results and take enlightened decisions about how to further develop the object-centric debugger. Therefore, the experiment remains open until July 10th (included). If you're interested you can still do it, the instructions are here https://github.com/Pharo-XP-Tools/XPImageGeneration/tree/exp-ocd Many people also declined to participate because of a lack of time, which we totally understand. This is why we also propose to you, if time is an issue, to participate to the experiment during the first days of esug. We can find a calm room in which we can supervise the experiment and collect your data (reminder: once in our server the data is anonymized). Please let us know if you would be potentially interested to participate in such setting during ESUG. Thanks in advance, Steven and Valentin, EVREF team.

June 24, 2024

SQAMIA WS 2024 in Novi Sad

by Gordana Raki?

Dear all, Our team in Novi Sad is organizing an annual "low-cost" for research-oriented students, their mentors, young researchers, ... and all other interested participants, named SQAMIA: Software Quality Analysis, Monitoring, Improvement, and Applications workshop. The new edition of SQAMIA 2024 will be held in Novi Sad, Serbia, from 9th to 11th September 2024. This edition of the SQAMIA workshop is dedicated to commemorate the memory of Prof. Zoran Budimac <https://www.dmi.uns.ac.rs/o-departmanu/secanja/zoran-budimac/>, a Founding Member of SQAMIA series of workshops. The Call for Papers that can be found at https://easychair.org/cfp/sqamia2024, or downloaded from https://alphito.pmf.uns.ac.rs/s/7efkYzyrYYpLrHX. While we are setting up some final details, please book the following dates in your calendars: !!!NEW Submission deadline: June 21st 2024 Notification deadline: July 12th 2024 Camera-ready submission deadline: August 16th 2024 For further information please follow the http://www.sqamia.org and do not hesitate to contact us. Sincerely yours, SQAMIA team ⁣Get BlueMail for Android

June 7, 2024

12 Month engineer position at Toulouse in Pharo

by stephane ducasse

Hi people Can you distribute this job position around you? Yannick Chevalier has a position to develop a tool to detect abnomalies Développement de l’outil iCANt pour la détection d’anomalies <mailto:yannick.chevalier@gmail.com> Who: yannick.chevalier(a)gmail.com <mailto:yannick.chevalier@gmail.com> Where: Toulouse Salary: 45 K Euros a more experienced dev could be hired for a shorter period and get a better salary. S. Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr 06 30 93 66 73 "If you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do differently? ....ESPECIALLY if, by doing something different, today might not be your last day on earth.” Calvin & Hobbes

June 1, 2024

DATE CORRECTION - UKSTUG Meeting - Javier Pimas -- Live Metacircular Runtimes: The case of Egg Smalltalk - 29 May 2024

by UK Smalltalk

Egg is a new Smalltalk dialect that was designed from scratch to incorporate some interesting features: A module system with namespaces that replaces the old-good Smalltalk global. Dynamic identifiers, which are bound lazily similarly to how methods are lazily bound. A multi-VM architecture, with different VM implementations written in C++, Pharo, JavaScript and Egg. The Egg-in-Egg VM is special in that the VM component is just another module of the system, creating what we have named Live Metacircular Runtimes (LMRs) [1]. The most interesting characteristic of LMRs in Smalltalk is that they can be developed using standard Smalltalk tools, which shorten feedback loops when doing VM development. During the talk I'll show a little bit about Egg and its LMR, and how not only VM developers get more productive when writing VMs, but also application developers can better understand what the VM does behind the scenes. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.16973 - Live Objects All The Way Down: Removing the Barriers between Applications and Virtual Machines Javier Pimas is a fan of high-level low-level programming. He has been successfully mixing Smalltalk and assembly code for more than a decade. Within Bee Smalltalk, SqueakNOS and now Egg Smalltalk projects he has been trying to make live-programming of system-level concerns more practical to application programmers. Javier works for Labware and Quorum Software, where he applies his expertise to real-world challenges while pursuing a PhD in Computer Science at Buenos Aires University. This will be an online meeting from home. If you'd like to join us, please sign up in advance on the meeting's Meetup page ( https://www.meetup.com/ukstug/events/300511322/ ) to receive the meeting details. Don’t forget to bring your laptop and drinks!

May 22, 2024

UKSTUG Meeting - Javier Pimas -- Live Metacircular Runtimes: The case of Egg Smalltalk - 29 June 2024

by UK Smalltalk

Egg is a new Smalltalk dialect that was designed from scratch to incorporate some interesting features: A module system with namespaces that replaces the old-good Smalltalk global. Dynamic identifiers, which are bound lazily similarly to how methods are lazily bound. A multi-VM architecture, with different VM implementations written in C++, Pharo, JavaScript and Egg. The Egg-in-Egg VM is special in that the VM component is just another module of the system, creating what we have named Live Metacircular Runtimes (LMRs) [1]. The most interesting characteristic of LMRs in Smalltalk is that they can be developed using standard Smalltalk tools, which shorten feedback loops when doing VM development. During the talk I'll show a little bit about Egg and its LMR, and how not only VM developers get more productive when writing VMs, but also application developers can better understand what the VM does behind the scenes. [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2312.16973 - Live Objects All The Way Down: Removing the Barriers between Applications and Virtual Machines Javier Pimas is a fan of high-level low-level programming. He has been successfully mixing Smalltalk and assembly code for more than a decade. Within Bee Smalltalk, SqueakNOS and now Egg Smalltalk projects he has been trying to make live-programming of system-level concerns more practical to application programmers. Javier works for Labware and Quorum Software, where he applies his expertise to real-world challenges while pursuing a PhD in Computer Science at Buenos Aires University. This will be an online meeting from home. If you'd like to join us, please sign up in advance on the meeting's Meetup page ( https://www.meetup.com/ukstug/events/300511322/ ) to receive the meeting details. Don’t forget to bring your laptop and drinks!

May 22, 2024

IWST Deadline Extension

by Guillermo Polito

Dear Community, Please let us inform you that the submission deadline for the full/short papers has been extended until May 31st, 2024 AoE. Let us remind you of the submission details: - Short position papers (5 to 10 pages) describing fresh ideas and early results. - Full papers (more than 10 pages) with deeper descriptions of experiments and research results. Please also consider that you may submit another work other than your original abstract. Paper accepted for publishing will be published within a *CEUR-WS Proceedings>https://ceur-ws.org/*. Hence, both submissions and final papers must be prepared using the *CEUR ART style>https://ceur-ws.org/Vol-XXX/CEURART.zip*. We recommend using the template in single-column style, although you may use two columns. CEUR proceedings accept papers in both styles as soon as they follow the template and have 5 or more pages. The IWST team, Gordana, Guille, and Steven https://esug.org/2024-Conference/IWST2024.html

May 17, 2024