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Re: [Esug-list] how to pick an existing (empty) directory name (mapped in Windows to a drive letter)?

by Steven Kelly

VW has: Dialog requestDirectoryName: 'Choose a Directory:' which explicitly selects a directory (including empty ones) rather than a file. From: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf Of Ulli Wenk Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 1:30 PM To: ESUG Mailing list Subject: [Esug-list] how to pick an existing (empty) directory name (mapped in Windows to a drive letter)? Hello, how I can use a native FolderDialog/DirectoryRequest for a directory which may be empty (we need it for selecting a subprocess-working-directory chosen by our users)? The VW FileDialog and Win32FileDialog can only be used for not empty directories (selecting an arbitrary file and getting its directory path). The Aragon.Widget Dialog>requestDirectory let me select a directory but does not show the drive letters of the (Windows-) mapped drives. Thus, for our users (hospital nurses), it is not so easy to find a known directory. Has anybody a solution? Regards, Ulli -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Dr. Hans-Ullrich Wenk Abteilungsleiter Softwareentwicklung __________________________________________ HINZ Fabrik GmbH Organisation im Gesundheitswesen Lankwitzer Straße 17/18 D-12107 Berlin Tel.: +49 (0) 30 / 7 47 04-175 Fax: +49 (0) 30 / 7 47 04-160 E-Mail: wenk(a)hinz.de <mailto:wenk@hinz.de> Besuchen Sie uns im Internet unter www.hinz.de <http://www.hinz.de/> . _______________________________________________________________ Eingetragen im Handelsregister Berlin: 92 HRB 2532 Geschäftsführer: Gregor Schmidt, Berlin; Michael Voß, Berlin _______________________________________________________________ Diese E-Mail enthält vertrauliche und/oder rechtlich geschützte Informationen. Wenn Sie nicht der richtige Adressat sind oder diese E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben, informieren Sie bitte sofort den Absender und vernichten Sie diese E-Mail. Das unerlaubte Kopieren sowie die unbefugte Weitergabe dieser E-Mail ist nicht gestattet. The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager or the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make copies. ________________________________________________________________

Feb. 12, 2015

how to pick an existing (empty) directory name (mapped in Windows to a drive letter)?

by Ulli Wenk

Feb. 12, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC 2015

by Joachim Tuchel

James, I admit that I also had this thought when I read the thread so far. Smalltalk is much more than Pharo and it would be good to see mor cross-dialect work. E.g. filetree and cypress would be great candidates. Otoh, if you look at the last few years when ESUG was accepted, you see mostly Pharo-related projects. One of the reasons may be that this community had most available mentors. I'd also prefer if ESUG applied, and I'd like to see more cross-dialect work that is of benefit for a broader community. But if we don't step up and propose projects and volunteer to mentor, then it cannot happen, even if it's ESUG that mainly proposes Pharo projects. Here are some project ideas: # coding guidelines for cross-dialect projects and tool support (think slime, rewrite tools etc.) # st-hub integration into more dialects (bi-directional) # cypress implementations for vw, vast, squeak, Dolphin, gst and others # Improvements for jntegrating Seaside with front-end javascript But: who has the time and knowledge to mentor? In last years discussion for project ideas I was told by a mentor that they're not interested in cross-dialect as a design goal and they concentrate on Pharo first, in order to get at least something done. This is a sensible argument, no matter if I like it. So what can we do a bout it? Joachim Am 11.02.2015 17:30 schrieb James Foster <Smalltalk(a)JGFoster.net>: > > I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. > > James > > > On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:26 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. > > > > What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG > > submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have > > a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. > > > > Stef > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? > >> > >> Uko > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Esug-list mailing list > >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Feb. 12, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC 2015

by Stephan Eggermont

Hi James & Stef, James wrote: >I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an >overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some >effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. I would prefer Esug to be the sponsoring organization. >Since ESUG got rejected last year - even though we got nice projects, >these two factors make a Pharo submission probably better. We are not unique in getting rejected every few years. Ruby on Rails didn't get selected in 2012. There are many more requests than available slots. Last year, Janko ruined our chances of getting selected. GSoC is supposed to be good for Google's image. Having a loose cannon as organizer is unacceptable, and something we couldn't solve in time. Stephan

Feb. 11, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC 2015

by Stéphane Ducasse

BTW: let me be really clear about this GSOC 2015 stuff. - I do not want to hear about GSOC. - I do not want to get insulted as in the past. - I updated the pharo topics available in the github repo https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-project-proposals and I will not do anything else. I have set up a filter that trashes automatically any email about GSOC. I hope that I’m clear about it and you do not imagine how I got impacted in the past so I learned my own lesson: NEVER AGAIN. Stef On 11 Feb 2015, at 18:18, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi james > >> I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. > > I would have prefered a ESUG proposal especially since most of the projects are pharo ones :) and like that nobody can say that > we are evil, nasty….;) > But Yuriy met a GSOC woman at Fosdem and she said that we should show that there is some energy, momemtum, activities, …. > So it is probably good to take the risk to get a pharo proposal to avoid the “should we fund a ‘cobol' Summer of Code”? (you know Smalltalk > the language from the 80… what 35 five ago :) > Since ESUG got rejected last year - even though we got nice projects, these two factors make a Pharo submission probably better. > > Stef > > >> James >> >>> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:26 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. >>> >>> What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG >>> submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have >>> a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >>>> >>>> Uko >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Esug-list mailing list >>>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Julie Jonas > 03 59 57 78 50 > 03 59 35 86 16 > > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas 03 59 57 78 50 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Feb. 11, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC 2015

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi james > I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. I would have prefered a ESUG proposal especially since most of the projects are pharo ones :) and like that nobody can say that we are evil, nasty….;) But Yuriy met a GSOC woman at Fosdem and she said that we should show that there is some energy, momemtum, activities, …. So it is probably good to take the risk to get a pharo proposal to avoid the “should we fund a ‘cobol' Summer of Code”? (you know Smalltalk the language from the 80… what 35 five ago :) Since ESUG got rejected last year - even though we got nice projects, these two factors make a Pharo submission probably better. Stef > James > >> On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:26 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. >> >> What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG >> submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have >> a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. >> >> Stef >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >>> >>> Uko >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas 03 59 57 78 50 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Feb. 11, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC 2015

by James Foster

I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. James > On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:26 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. > > What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG > submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have > a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. > > Stef > > >> Hi, >> >> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >> >> Uko >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Feb. 11, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] Status of Helvetia and Language Boxes (by Renggli) on Pharo 3/4

by Marcus Denker

> On 09 Feb 2015, at 18:43, Graham McLeod <mcleod(a)iafrica.com> wrote: > > Hi All > > I have recently revisited the work of Lucas Renggli on hosting embedded DSLs in Pharo with Petit Parser, Helvetia and Language Boxes. > I know Petit Parser is in Pharo 3, and presumably 4, but does anyone know the status / availability of Helvetia and Language Boxes with the new releases? > Presumably updates would have been necessary because of new compiler, handling of source and AST etc? > Yes, updates will definitely be needed. But it should actually be easier to realise on top of the new infrastructure. E.g. we now generate byte code directly from the RB AST and the compiler has a pluggable architecture to use PetitParser. It would be a lot of work but definitely interesting. Marcus

Feb. 10, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC 2015

by Serge Stinckwich

I'm in favor of a Pharo submission. Who could manage that ? Regards Sent from my iPhone > On 9 févr. 2015, at 19:32, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > I'm all in favor of submitting. > > Stephan Eggermont > > Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone > >> Op 9 feb. 2015 om 19:26 heeft stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> het volgende geschreven: >> >> Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. >> >> What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG >> submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have >> a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. >> >> Stef >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? >>> >>> Uko >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Feb. 10, 2015

New Smalltalk book: Programming Smalltalk

by Johannes Brauer

Hi, earlier than expected my new book about Smalltalk is in stock at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/3658068221 Johannes Brauer ________________________________ Staatlich anerkannte private Fachhochschule NORDAKADEMIE Gemeinn?tzige Aktiengesellschaft K?llner Chaussee 11 25337 Elmshorn Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Georg Plate (Vorsitzender), Dipl.-Ing. J?rg Meier (stellv. Vorstand) Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. h.c. Hans-Heinrich Bruns Sitz: Elmshorn, Amtsgericht Pinneberg, HRB 1682

Feb. 9, 2015