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Re: [Esug-list] Pharo4pharo mailing-list announce

by Gordana Rakic

Hi Georg, Currently there are trains Novi Sad-Budapest, but during the spring we expect all trains between Belgrade and Budapest (and Novi Sad is in between) to stop. So, please do not count with trains. We will update the information when they come and recommend direct transfer very soon, but there are also busses. We are all in touch, Gordana From: Esug-list <esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org> On Behalf Of Georg Heeg Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 2:12 PM To: Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> Cc: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Pharo4pharo mailing-list announce Stephane, I am surprised that you have sent this message to the ESUG mailing list. I have always been thinking that this ESUG-list intended to be one of the “plenty of newsgroups about Smalltalk” in general and not only about Pharo, but also about X like Smalltalk-X, and all other Smalltalks, new and old (Dolphin, VSE, ObjectStudio, VA, Smalltalk/V, VisualAge Smalltalk, Squeak, Little Smalltalk, Smalltalk-80, …), and it is also about ESUG Conferences including the travel guide to Novi Sad. There is actually one daily train to Novi Sad from Budapest. <https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.php?zeme=START&kategorie=&cislo=343&naz…> Zug 343 Budapest – Novi Sad, <https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.php?zeme=SV&kategorie=&cislo=342&nazev=…> Zug 342 Novi Sad - Budapest. Times and prices can be found on <http://elvira.mav-start.hu/> http://elvira.mav-start.hu/ . Due to construction there are no trains between Novi Sad and Stara Pazova and thus to Belgrade. Georg Heeg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 Von: Esug-list <esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org> > Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2020 08:33 An: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org> >; Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-dev@lists.pharo.org> >; ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:esug-list@lists.esug.org> >; rmod(a)inria.fr <mailto:rmod@inria.fr> list <rmod(a)inria.fr <mailto:rmod@inria.fr> > Betreff: [Esug-list] Pharo4pharo mailing-list announce Hi Tired of boring and dull discussions about the past? Tired and bored about the fact that the discussions are not about Pharo but about X, Z, K? Want to get in touch with other real pharo users? Want to have positive and nice discussions about Pharo? This mailing-list is for you https://lists.gforge.inria.fr/mailman/listinfo/lse-pharo4pharo I created a new mailing-list for Pharo 4 Pharo. The idea of this new mailing-list is to exchange between Pharo users on Pharo. If you want to talk about the weather and other cool fishing practices or how other languages are super cool, then you should use another mailing-list. You can consider that I’m [ ] an asshole [ ] an arrogant idiot [ ] other This is not my concern. My concern is: can we respect Pharo and users of Pharo that want to share what they are doing and ask questions about their language? If you join this mailing-list be warned that I (yes me the benevolent dictator of Pharo) will remove you from the mailing-list when you get on my nerves. If you do not like it, do not like me, do not appreciate it, do not join! S. BTW they are plenty of newsgroups about Smalltalk and you can join there. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Jan. 30, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] Pharo4pharo mailing-list announce

by Georg Heeg

Stephane, I am surprised that you have sent this message to the ESUG mailing list. I have always been thinking that this ESUG-list intended to be one of the “plenty of newsgroups about Smalltalk” in general and not only about Pharo, but also about X like Smalltalk-X, and all other Smalltalks, new and old (Dolphin, VSE, ObjectStudio, VA, Smalltalk/V, VisualAge Smalltalk, Squeak, Little Smalltalk, Smalltalk-80, …), and it is also about ESUG Conferences including the travel guide to Novi Sad. There is actually one daily train to Novi Sad from Budapest. Zug 343<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.php?zeme=START&kategorie=&cislo=343&naz…> Budapest – Novi Sad, Zug 342<https://www.vagonweb.cz/razeni/vlak.php?zeme=SV&kategorie=&cislo=342&nazev=…> Novi Sad - Budapest. Times and prices can be found on http://elvira.mav-start.hu/ . Due to construction there are no trains between Novi Sad and Stara Pazova and thus to Belgrade. Georg Heeg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 Von: Esug-list <esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org> Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse Gesendet: Donnerstag, 30. Januar 2020 08:33 An: Any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org>; Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org>; ESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org>; rmod(a)inria.fr list <rmod(a)inria.fr> Betreff: [Esug-list] Pharo4pharo mailing-list announce Hi Tired of boring and dull discussions about the past? Tired and bored about the fact that the discussions are not about Pharo but about X, Z, K? Want to get in touch with other real pharo users? Want to have positive and nice discussions about Pharo? This mailing-list is for you https://lists.gforge.inria.fr/mailman/listinfo/lse-pharo4pharo I created a new mailing-list for Pharo 4 Pharo. The idea of this new mailing-list is to exchange between Pharo users on Pharo. If you want to talk about the weather and other cool fishing practices or how other languages are super cool, then you should use another mailing-list. You can consider that I’m [ ] an asshole [ ] an arrogant idiot [ ] other This is not my concern. My concern is: can we respect Pharo and users of Pharo that want to share what they are doing and ask questions about their language? If you join this mailing-list be warned that I (yes me the benevolent dictator of Pharo) will remove you from the mailing-list when you get on my nerves. If you do not like it, do not like me, do not appreciate it, do not join! S. BTW they are plenty of newsgroups about Smalltalk and you can join there. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Jan. 30, 2020

Pharo4pharo mailing-list announce

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi Tired of boring and dull discussions about the past? Tired and bored about the fact that the discussions are not about Pharo but about X, Z, K? Want to get in touch with other real pharo users? Want to have positive and nice discussions about Pharo? This mailing-list is for you https://lists.gforge.inria.fr/mailman/listinfo/lse-pharo4pharo I created a new mailing-list for Pharo 4 Pharo. The idea of this new mailing-list is to exchange between Pharo users on Pharo. If you want to talk about the weather and other cool fishing practices or how other languages are super cool, then you should use another mailing-list. You can consider that I’m [ ] an asshole [ ] an arrogant idiot [ ] other This is not my concern. My concern is: can we respect Pharo and users of Pharo that want to share what they are doing and ask questions about their language? If you join this mailing-list be warned that I (yes me the benevolent dictator of Pharo) will remove you from the mailing-list when you get on my nerves. If you do not like it, do not like me, do not appreciate it, do not join! S. BTW they are plenty of newsgroups about Smalltalk and you can join there. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Jan. 30, 2020

New Smalltalk-based mobile app is out

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi everyone, The latest Smalltalk-powered smartphone app is now live. Development has been made using Pharo. Then, javascript code is generated using PharoJS. Last, the app is built to target both iOS and Android thanks to Apache Cordova. Learn more and Download at https://nootrix.com/projects/brain-treats-app/ <https://nootrix.com/projects/brain-treats-app/> 5 stars ratings are welcome ;-) Noury

Jan. 29, 2020

UK Smalltalk User Group meeting: Beers and Pharo 8 - 29 January 2020

by Giovanni Corriga

The next meeting of the UK Smalltalk User Group will be on Wednesday, January 29th. We'll meet at our usual venue, The City Pride ( https://www.cityprideclerkenwell.co.uk/ ), from 7pm onwards. For this month’s meeting, we’ll explore the new release 8.0 of Pharo, which was announced a few weeks ago. If you'd like to join us, you can show up at the pub. You can also sign up in advance on the meeting's Meetup page https://www.meetup.com/UKSTUG/events/cbklbrybccbdc/ . Don’t forget to bring your laptop!

Jan. 23, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk meetup in Palo Alto, CA on January 25, 2020

by Stéphane Ducasse

This looks cool. I wish I could be with you. Say hello to everybody from the team here. > On 15 Jan 2020, at 14:51, Alexandre Bergel <abergel(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Dear Friends and Colleagues, > > We are organizing a Smalltalk meetup in Palo Alto, CA, on Saturday 25 January, 2020. > The event is free, thanks to Lam Research, Object Profile, Semantics for sponsoring the event. > > More information may be found on https://agileartificialintelligence.github.io/meetup.html > > People who wish to attend, then the webpage contains the registration links. > > Please, join! > > Kind regards, > Alexandre & Juan Pablo > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Jan. 15, 2020

Smalltalk meetup in Palo Alto, CA on January 25, 2020

by Alexandre Bergel

Dear Friends and Colleagues, We are organizing a Smalltalk meetup in Palo Alto, CA, on Saturday 25 January, 2020. The event is free, thanks to Lam Research, Object Profile, Semantics for sponsoring the event. More information may be found on https://agileartificialintelligence.github.io/meetup.html People who wish to attend, then the webpage contains the registration links. Please, join! Kind regards, Alexandre & Juan Pablo -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 15, 2020

Fwd: [Pharo-dev] Characterizing Pharo Code: A Technical Report

by Stéphane Ducasse

> Begin forwarded message: > > From: Oleksandr Zaytsev <olk.zaytsev(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [Pharo-dev] Characterizing Pharo Code: A Technical Report > Date: 15 January 2020 at 12:02:06 CET > To: pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org > Reply-To: Pharo Development List <pharo-dev(a)lists.pharo.org> > > Hello, > > We have analyzed the source code of the 50 projects selected from the Pharo ecosystem and reported our findings in this document: > https://hal.inria.fr/hal-02440055v1 <https://hal.inria.fr/hal-02440055v1> > > Perhaps, you will find it interesting. > > Here are some fun facts that we have discovered: > 25% of classes have no more than 3 methods in them, and 50% of classes have no more than 6 methods > The average number of lines of code in Pharo methods is 5.8, the median of this number is 3, meaning that 50% of methods have no more than 3 lines. > About a quarter of source code are message sends (method names) - they take 27.3% of source code tokens and 26.3% of characters. > On a character level, 22.5% of source code are string literals, and 19.4% are literal arrays. Together literals take 44% of characters in source code, but only 7.1% of tokens. > Positive statements are much more common than negative ones. ifTrue: is used 3 times more often than ifFalse:. Similarly, ifTrue:ifFalse: is 26 times more common than ifFalse:ifTrue:. > After tokenizing the code of 151,717 methods, splitting identifier names by camel case, and removing non-alphabetic characters, we received a sequence of almost 3 million words (e.g. ... ordered collection with all command line arguments...). This sequence contains only 8,211 unique words (including all misspellings such as arrray, clipped words such as arr, and nonsense words such as ddd or xdkh). Compare this to over 40,000 unique words used in roughly the same amount of printed English prose. > At least 5,480 of those 8,211 unique alphabetic sequences are valid English words. > > Have a nice day, and let us know what you think. > We would be happy to receive your feedback. > > Oleks -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Jan. 15, 2020

Job offer at RMOD around Moose

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hello We got a two years position as engineer in our team. We should do the administration to declare it in our lovely hiring tool. But I wanted to let you know that we have this position and that it can interest some of you. The goal is to work on the new moose IDE and develop some tools for the team and companies. The follow up can also be to participate to start-up program. S. -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

Jan. 14, 2020

Re: [Esug-list] OpenQwaq python bridge

by Jan Vrany

Hi Alexandre, I know about the bridge you did. I think I prefer to embed python runtime into VM process. Will see, if that won't work, will give it a go. Thanks! Jan On Thu, 2020-01-02 at 14:22 +0100, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Hi Jan, > > We worked hard on PythonBridge, a bridge between Smalltalk and Python. > Our bridge uses a sophisticated messaging and queuing mechanism to enable debugging and traceability of the interaction between Python and Smalltalk. And yes, if a Python proxy object is garbaged > collected within Smalltalk, the corresponding python object will be garbage collected within Python on some point. > > We made a short video about this effort: https://youtu.be/uKSHUVZs75k > > Our bridge works for Pharo and VisualWorks. It should be easy to port it to another smalltalk. Some links: > https://objectprofile.github.io/PythonBridge/ > https://github.com/ObjectProfile/PythonBridge > > We use the bridge to enjoy AI and image processing python libraries within Pharo and VisualWorks. > > And thanks Lam Research to make all this happen. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On 02-01-2020, at 13:26, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> wrote: > > > > Hi there, > > > > does anyone know how OpenQwaq's Python bridge was/is implemented? > > Does it use a VM plugin/ffi to interact with Python runtime? > > > > If yes, does anyone know if sources are available (under some usable > > license)? > > > > If so, where can I find them? My google-fu failed me, as usual. > > > > All the best in 2020! > > > > Jan > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > >

Jan. 2, 2020