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Re: [Esug-list] getting more women in Smalltalk

by Ron Teitelbaum

Women are excellent programmers, are very disciplined, work well in groups and are overall are much better at encouraging people to work together than men I know (including myself). Any community that pushes females out of programming is doing themselves a real disservice. I would say the same thing for politics too. We need more women participation if we want things to get better. My $0.02 All the best, Ron Teitelbaum On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 2:07 PM David Mason <dmason(a)ryerson.ca> wrote: > With respect, it is not about obsessing on words. > > Male privilege is so ingrained - particularly in the tech world - that we > honestly, and with good intent, think that words like "guy" are neutral. > > In the interest of establishing some empathy, think for a moment how you > would feel if people normally referred to you as "gal" or "girl" or a group > to which you belonged as "gals". If you heard that someone was looking to > hire a gal, would you think it included you? (The plural form *is* > sometimes considered gender-neutral, but personally I have to work to think > of it that way; and the singular clearly refers to a male.) > > Almost everyone I know in the tech field, including *everyone* I've met in > the ESUG community considers ours to be a gender neutral discipline, and > bemoans the fact that things aren't more balanced. Unfortunately, that > doesn't always translate to inclusivity (including language). > > Unfortunately, English doesn't have a single sylable, gender neutral, noun > for groups of individuals. French has "gens", but the best that English can > do is "people". For individuals, it's worse as neither language does better > than "person" (which interestingly is feminine in French - "la personne"). > > I'm sure many consider this discussion to be irrelevant and off-topic and > "just want to get back to programming". Me too, but I want lots of female > colleagues, and colleagues from other races, countries, and backgrounds, so > I'm willing to make all the efforts I can to make that happen - including > language, grad-student supervision, undergrad mentoring, co-authoring > papers, and funding. > > Thanks, ../Dave > > On 12 March 2017 at 04:56, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Dear Stephane, Serge and everyone else > > Glad to know that this community is working to bring in diversity from all > sphere and strives for inclusion. A little step of either using she/he or a > gender neutral term would encompass all :) > > As Serge rightly pointed, we are working to associate Pharo Consortium as > an > organisation with various Open Source Programs worldwide like Google > Summer > of Code <https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/> , GNOME Outreachy > <https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/> and many others. > > Let's keep this spirit alive ! > > Cheers. > Jigyasa Grover > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Thales-is-looking-for-a-UI-expert-in-Smalltalk-and-Ph… > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

March 12, 2017

Re: [Esug-list] getting more women in Smalltalk

by David Mason

With respect, it is not about obsessing on words. Male privilege is so ingrained - particularly in the tech world - that we honestly, and with good intent, think that words like "guy" are neutral. In the interest of establishing some empathy, think for a moment how you would feel if people normally referred to you as "gal" or "girl" or a group to which you belonged as "gals". If you heard that someone was looking to hire a gal, would you think it included you? (The plural form *is* sometimes considered gender-neutral, but personally I have to work to think of it that way; and the singular clearly refers to a male.) Almost everyone I know in the tech field, including *everyone* I've met in the ESUG community considers ours to be a gender neutral discipline, and bemoans the fact that things aren't more balanced. Unfortunately, that doesn't always translate to inclusivity (including language). Unfortunately, English doesn't have a single sylable, gender neutral, noun for groups of individuals. French has "gens", but the best that English can do is "people". For individuals, it's worse as neither language does better than "person" (which interestingly is feminine in French - "la personne"). I'm sure many consider this discussion to be irrelevant and off-topic and "just want to get back to programming". Me too, but I want lots of female colleagues, and colleagues from other races, countries, and backgrounds, so I'm willing to make all the efforts I can to make that happen - including language, grad-student supervision, undergrad mentoring, co-authoring papers, and funding. Thanks, ../Dave On 12 March 2017 at 04:56, Jigyasa Grover <grover.jigyasa1(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Stephane, Serge and everyone else > > Glad to know that this community is working to bring in diversity from all > sphere and strives for inclusion. A little step of either using she/he or a > gender neutral term would encompass all :) > > As Serge rightly pointed, we are working to associate Pharo Consortium as > an > organisation with various Open Source Programs worldwide like Google > Summer > of Code <https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/> , GNOME Outreachy > <https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/> and many others. > > Let's keep this spirit alive ! > > Cheers. > Jigyasa Grover > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Thales- > is-looking-for-a-UI-expert-in-Smalltalk-and-Pharo-tp4937527p4938275.html > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

March 12, 2017

Re: [Esug-list] getting more women in Smalltalk

by Jigyasa Grover

Dear Stephane, Serge and everyone else Glad to know that this community is working to bring in diversity from all sphere and strives for inclusion. A little step of either using she/he or a gender neutral term would encompass all :) As Serge rightly pointed, we are working to associate Pharo Consortium as an organisation with various Open Source Programs worldwide like Google Summer of Code <https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/> , GNOME Outreachy <https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/> and many others. Let's keep this spirit alive ! Cheers. Jigyasa Grover -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Thales-is-looking-for-a-UI-expert-in-Smalltalk-and-Ph… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 12, 2017

Re: [Esug-list] new version of Pharo by example for Pharo 50

by David Mason

Thanks indeed! Especially from those of us who use Pharo in courses. ../Dave On 10 March 2017 at 15:03, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi > > After several iterations and some month of efforts, the new version of > Pharo by Example is finally available for Pharo 50 in print form and pdf. > > http://books.pharo.org > > Tx all the contributors. > — > > > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Julie Jonas > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

March 10, 2017

new version of Pharo by example for Pharo 50

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi After several iterations and some month of efforts, the new version of Pharo by Example is finally available for Pharo 50 in print form and pdf. http://books.pharo.org <http://books.pharo.org/> Tx all the contributors. — -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

March 10, 2017

<Programming> 2017: Call for participation

by Tim Molderez

----------------------------------------------------------------------- <Programming> 2017 : The Art, Science, and Engineering of Programming April 3-6, 2017, Brussels, Belgium http://2017.programming-conference.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------- We are excited to welcome you to <Programming> 2017, a new conference focused on everything to do with programming. It takes place at the Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium on April 3-6. The <Programming> conference is closely associated with the open-access journal "The Art, Science, and Engineering of Programming". The journal's first two issues form the conference's research track, which means you can freely access all papers presented at the conference before it even starts! Along with the research track, <Programming> 2017 features a program with two main keynotes, two symposia, eight workshops, a coding dojo, a demo track, and a student research competition. To catch a glimpse of what <Programming> 2017 has to offer, feel free to have a look at our overview video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM_hLNW4ioE *********************************************************************** Program highlights *********************************************************************** Main conference: - Keynote: "Live Literate Programming" by Gilad Bracha - Keynote: "How Racket Went Meta" by Matthew Flatt - Research track: 18 full papers - Demonstrations: 10 tool demos - ACM Student Research Competition: 8 entries Co-located events: - 10th European Lisp Symposium: 2 keynotes by Hans Hübner and Bohdan Khomtchouk, ~18 papers (not final yet) - Modularity 2017: 8 invited talks by Jörg Kienzle, Shmuel Katz, Mira Mezini, Bedir Tekinerdogan, Stéphane Ducasse, Uwe Aßmann, Lodewijk Bergmans and Mario Südholt - CoCoDo - RainCode Labs Compiler Coding Dojo: code together with experts Adrian Johnstone, Elizabeth Scott, Robby Findler, and more to come! - LASSY - Workshop on Live Adaptation of Software SYstems - MiniPLoP - Mini Pattern Languages of Programs writers' workshop - MOMO - Workshop on Modularity in Modeling - MoreVMs - Workshop on Modern Language Runtimes, Ecosystems, and VMs - PASS - Workshop on Programming Across the System Stack - PX - Workshop on Programming Experience - ProWeb - Programming Technology for the Future Web - Salon des Refusés workshop Social events: - Beer reception at the conference venue (April 3rd) - Reception at the Musical Instruments Museum (April 4th) - Banquet at the Natural Sciences Museum (April 5th) *********************************************************************** Registration, attendance and accommodation *********************************************************************** - You can register for <Programming> 2017 at: http://2017.programming-conference.org/attending/registration - Early registration ends soon! Please register before March 13th to obtain the early-bird discount. - More information on attending the conference is available at: http://2017.programming-conference.org/attending/reaching-the-conference - More information on accommodation is available at: http://2017.programming-conference.org/attending/accomodation *********************************************************************** About Brussels *********************************************************************** Brussels is the capital of Belgium, and home to the headquarters of the European Union. Despite its European nature and all the different languages spoken on every street corner, Brussels still has a very "village-like" character. It's well known for its Grand-Place, its Atomium, its Manneken-Pis, its Gueuze and its Kriek, its waffles and its chocolates. Be sure to take some time off to soak up the special atmosphere of its many different districts: Take a stroll to Rue Dansaert, Halles Saint-Géry, and Place Sainte-Catherine. Head for Saint-Boniface, Châtelain, or Flagey. In other words, go ahead and relish Brussels, a fine and beautiful city to explore and discover. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For more information, please visit http://2017.programming-conference.org You can also find us on Twitter (twitter.com/programmingconf) and Facebook (facebook.com/programmingconf) Looking forward to see you in Brussels, Theo D'Hondt (General chair), Wolfgang De Meuter (Organizing chair), Crista Lopes (Program chair), Jörg Kienzle, Ralf Lämmel, Hidehiko Masuhara, Tim Molderez, Tobias Pape, and Jennifer Sartor

March 9, 2017

Re: [Esug-list] getting more women in Smalltalk

by Serge Stinckwich

As far as I understand the Outreachy program: - sponsors give money for one organization (minimum 6500 USD to pay for one internship) but you can give more :-) - money is use for internships given by the organization - after the org has received money for one internship from one sponsor, other sponsors of the program can give also money to this org also. - Sponsors will have their name&logo here: https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/#sponsors Basically this is the same than Google Summer of Code, but internships are sponsored by companies. Regards, On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I would like to understand what do we get if we would pay 6500 $ > I could not make it. > > Stef > > > I would like to raise a bit the debate. > Now if many people would do more for this community I would have the time to > write mails but I dont. Sorry about. > I’m feminist and probably more than you expect. > > So let us transform such energy into something positive: > Propose some concrete actions to get more women in Pharo/Smalltalk so that > we see what we can do. > > Because you see I’m more used to do things than to talk. > And since I’m talking too much it implies that yes I’m doing a lot more than > you think > > > Thank you Stéphane for raising this important issue. > > With Jigyasa Grover, we would like to push a concrete action to have > more woman in Smalltalk. We are looking for companies (or individuals) > that are interested to help us pushing Pharo to the Outreachy program: > https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/ > > Outreachy helps people from groups underrepresented in free and open > source software get involved. This program funds internships. These > internships are open internationally to women (cis and trans), trans > men, and genderqueer people. Additionally, they are open to residents > and nationals of the United States of any gender who are Black/African > American, Hispanic/Latin@, American Indian, Alaska Native, Native > Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander. > > The program is similar to Google Summer of Code, but only for certain > set of people & the internship stipend has to be provided by the > organisation themselves hence we need at least 6500USD for > participating in the program i.e. sponsoring at least one participant. > > Pls read more about it here : > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs#Action > > Are there any companies willing to sponsor so we can have Pharo as an > Outreachy organisation ? > If anyone is interested, please send a private email to Jigyasa (in CC) and > me. > > The list of companies who already sponsor the program is here: > https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/#sponsors > > Thank you for your help. > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ > > > -------------------------------------------- > Stéphane Ducasse > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr > http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org > 03 59 35 87 52 > Assistant: Julie Jonas > FAX 03 59 57 78 50 > TEL 03 59 35 86 16 > S. Ducasse - Inria > 40, avenue Halley, > Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza > Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 > France > -- Serge Stinckwich UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

March 8, 2017

Re: [Esug-list] getting more women in Smalltalk

by Niall Ross

Dear all, I agree with the rebuke that (I think) Stephane is courteously implying here. The Smalltalk community - and the recruiter, I sure - are delighted when new Smalltalkers join us. Stephane puts a lot of work into helping that happen. Quite apart from the fact that 'guy' has been a neutral term for a long time, it is a just cause of irritation when people obsess on words. Just my 0.02p Niall Ross Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >Hi > >I would like to raise a bit the debate. >Now if many people would do more for this community I would have the time to write mails but I dont. Sorry about. >I’m feminist and probably more than you expect. > >So let us transform such energy into something positive: >Propose some concrete actions to get more women in Pharo/Smalltalk so that we see what we can do. > >Because you see I’m more used to do things than to talk. >And since I’m talking too much it implies that yes I’m doing a lot more than you think > >Stef > > >_______________________________________________ >Esug-list mailing list >Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

March 8, 2017

Re: [Esug-list] getting more women in Smalltalk

by Stéphane Ducasse

I would like to understand what do we get if we would pay 6500 $ I could not make it. Stef >> I would like to raise a bit the debate. >> Now if many people would do more for this community I would have the time to write mails but I dont. Sorry about. >> I’m feminist and probably more than you expect. >> >> So let us transform such energy into something positive: >> Propose some concrete actions to get more women in Pharo/Smalltalk so that we see what we can do. >> >> Because you see I’m more used to do things than to talk. >> And since I’m talking too much it implies that yes I’m doing a lot more than you think > > Thank you Stéphane for raising this important issue. > > With Jigyasa Grover, we would like to push a concrete action to have > more woman in Smalltalk. We are looking for companies (or individuals) > that are interested to help us pushing Pharo to the Outreachy program: > https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/ > > Outreachy helps people from groups underrepresented in free and open > source software get involved. This program funds internships. These > internships are open internationally to women (cis and trans), trans > men, and genderqueer people. Additionally, they are open to residents > and nationals of the United States of any gender who are Black/African > American, Hispanic/Latin@, American Indian, Alaska Native, Native > Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander. > > The program is similar to Google Summer of Code, but only for certain > set of people & the internship stipend has to be provided by the > organisation themselves hence we need at least 6500USD for > participating in the program i.e. sponsoring at least one participant. > > Pls read more about it here : > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs > https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs#Action > > Are there any companies willing to sponsor so we can have Pharo as an > Outreachy organisation ? > If anyone is interested, please send a private email to Jigyasa (in CC) and me. > > The list of companies who already sponsor the program is here: > https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/#sponsors > > Thank you for your help. > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/ -------------------------------------------- Stéphane Ducasse http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr http://www.synectique.eu / http://www.pharo.org 03 59 35 87 52 Assistant: Julie Jonas FAX 03 59 57 78 50 TEL 03 59 35 86 16 S. Ducasse - Inria 40, avenue Halley, Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650 France

March 8, 2017

Re: [Esug-list] getting more women in Smalltalk

by Serge Stinckwich

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 8:40 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi > > I would like to raise a bit the debate. > Now if many people would do more for this community I would have the time to write mails but I dont. Sorry about. > I’m feminist and probably more than you expect. > > So let us transform such energy into something positive: > Propose some concrete actions to get more women in Pharo/Smalltalk so that we see what we can do. > > Because you see I’m more used to do things than to talk. > And since I’m talking too much it implies that yes I’m doing a lot more than you think Thank you Stéphane for raising this important issue. With Jigyasa Grover, we would like to push a concrete action to have more woman in Smalltalk. We are looking for companies (or individuals) that are interested to help us pushing Pharo to the Outreachy program: https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/ Outreachy helps people from groups underrepresented in free and open source software get involved. This program funds internships. These internships are open internationally to women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people. Additionally, they are open to residents and nationals of the United States of any gender who are Black/African American, Hispanic/Latin@, American Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander. The program is similar to Google Summer of Code, but only for certain set of people & the internship stipend has to be provided by the organisation themselves hence we need at least 6500USD for participating in the program i.e. sponsoring at least one participant. Pls read more about it here : https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs https://wiki.gnome.org/Outreachy/Admin/InfoForOrgs#Action Are there any companies willing to sponsor so we can have Pharo as an Outreachy organisation ? If anyone is interested, please send a private email to Jigyasa (in CC) and me. The list of companies who already sponsor the program is here: https://www.gnome.org/outreachy/#sponsors Thank you for your help. Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UCN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

March 8, 2017