September 2015 - Esug-list

Re: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference

by David Mason

Very late August is difficult for North-American academics, as classes typically start the day after Labour Day (first Monday in September), so some previous years, travelling back in time to get set up for the term is challenging. On the other hand, it was pretty hot this year (although that was partly anomalous weather), so a bit later (like mid-August) might be better. ../Dave

Sept. 27, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference

by stephane ducasse

usually we try to adapt to local constraints :) On 25 Sep 2015, at 08:27, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > Hi ESUG list readers, > > first of all, I'd like to send a late but nevertheless earnest and warm Thank You to all who organized the ESUG 2015 conference. I've enjoyed the conference and the networking. The social event location was great and also Brescia as a city was fantastic. > > I'd like to ask all who came or couldn't come to comment on the selection of the Date for the conference. This year, the conference was held in early July rather than in late August. > > To me, personally, that was an excellent choice, and I've spoken to many people at the conference and on other occasions about the date. Most people I talked to were either pleased or indifferent. But I could imagine some people didn't come because early July didn't fit well. I would like to have ESUg earlier in the year, and early July was very convenient for me for several reasons: > > * In my area (southern Germany), the school holidays haven't started by that time, so the conference doesn't interfere with our vacation plans > * For exactly that reason, I think we've had a few more people from a more "enterprisey" background > * There aren't many other events in July that might interfere with teh ESUG conference > > Let me also state very clearly that I am not asking on behalf of ESUG or that I am in a position to influence the date, other than maybe by starting a discussion on this list ;-) > I am not involved in the planning or organisation of the next ESUG conferences, though this might change in the future, never say never ;-) > > So, what is your opinion? Does July fit for you, or was the changed date keeping you from attending? > Thanks for commenting. Maybe this is of help to the conference organisers, at least I hope so. > My intentions are positive ;-) > > > Joachim > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 26, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference

by Alexandre Bergel

Hi Joachim, Personally, for me July is better. However, I would be careful when conducting such opinion survey since mostly people who are not happy with July are answering. People who are happy with July or without a strong opinion will probably not reply. Maybe using an online survey (instead of sending a mass email) will probably reduce biases, get more opinions, and reflect the truth. Cheers, Alexandre > On Sep 25, 2015, at 3:27 AM, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > > Hi ESUG list readers, > > first of all, I'd like to send a late but nevertheless earnest and warm Thank You to all who organized the ESUG 2015 conference. I've enjoyed the conference and the networking. The social event location was great and also Brescia as a city was fantastic. > > I'd like to ask all who came or couldn't come to comment on the selection of the Date for the conference. This year, the conference was held in early July rather than in late August. > > To me, personally, that was an excellent choice, and I've spoken to many people at the conference and on other occasions about the date. Most people I talked to were either pleased or indifferent. But I could imagine some people didn't come because early July didn't fit well. I would like to have ESUg earlier in the year, and early July was very convenient for me for several reasons: > > * In my area (southern Germany), the school holidays haven't started by that time, so the conference doesn't interfere with our vacation plans > * For exactly that reason, I think we've had a few more people from a more "enterprisey" background > * There aren't many other events in July that might interfere with teh ESUG conference > > Let me also state very clearly that I am not asking on behalf of ESUG or that I am in a position to influence the date, other than maybe by starting a discussion on this list ;-) > I am not involved in the planning or organisation of the next ESUG conferences, though this might change in the future, never say never ;-) > > So, what is your opinion? Does July fit for you, or was the changed date keeping you from attending? > Thanks for commenting. Maybe this is of help to the conference organisers, at least I hope so. > My intentions are positive ;-) > > > Joachim > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 26, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference

by Pape, Tobias

Hi all, On 25.09.2015, at 09:21, Martin McClure <martin.mcclure(a)gemtalksystems.com> wrote: > On 09/24/2015 11:27 PM, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >> >> * In my area (southern Germany), the school holidays haven't started by >> that time, so the conference doesn't interfere with our vacation plans >> * For exactly that reason, I think we've had a few more people from a >> more "enterprisey" background > > There were also people that I wanted to see that could not come, because they were still dealing with students, so I'd rather see it during the vacation time. I was dealing with students and could not come and couldn't meet people I wanted to meet. August is pretty much free for University academics in Germany, that's why it worked well for us in the previous years. Best regards -Tobias

Sept. 25, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference

by Thomas, Arden

Hi Joachim; The traditional timeframe (late August) was better for me. July was more difficult to schedule and prepare for. Regards Arden Arden Thomas Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager athomas(a)cincom.com ________________________________________ From: Esug-list [esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org] on behalf of Georg Heeg [georg(a)heeg.de] Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 3:37 AM To: jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de; esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Subject: Re: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference Joachim, Short answer: I could not come. Georg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de Gesendet: Freitag, 25. September 2015 08:27 An: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Betreff: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference Hi ESUG list readers, first of all, I'd like to send a late but nevertheless earnest and warm Thank You to all who organized the ESUG 2015 conference. I've enjoyed the conference and the networking. The social event location was great and also Brescia as a city was fantastic. I'd like to ask all who came or couldn't come to comment on the selection of the Date for the conference. This year, the conference was held in early July rather than in late August. To me, personally, that was an excellent choice, and I've spoken to many people at the conference and on other occasions about the date. Most people I talked to were either pleased or indifferent. But I could imagine some people didn't come because early July didn't fit well. I would like to have ESUg earlier in the year, and early July was very convenient for me for several reasons: * In my area (southern Germany), the school holidays haven't started by that time, so the conference doesn't interfere with our vacation plans * For exactly that reason, I think we've had a few more people from a more "enterprisey" background * There aren't many other events in July that might interfere with teh ESUG conference Let me also state very clearly that I am not asking on behalf of ESUG or that I am in a position to influence the date, other than maybe by starting a discussion on this list ;-) I am not involved in the planning or organisation of the next ESUG conferences, though this might change in the future, never say never ;-) So, what is your opinion? Does July fit for you, or was the changed date keeping you from attending? Thanks for commenting. Maybe this is of help to the conference organisers, at least I hope so. My intentions are positive ;-) Joachim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 25, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference

by Georg Heeg

Joachim, Short answer: I could not come. Georg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de Gesendet: Freitag, 25. September 2015 08:27 An: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Betreff: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference Hi ESUG list readers, first of all, I'd like to send a late but nevertheless earnest and warm Thank You to all who organized the ESUG 2015 conference. I've enjoyed the conference and the networking. The social event location was great and also Brescia as a city was fantastic. I'd like to ask all who came or couldn't come to comment on the selection of the Date for the conference. This year, the conference was held in early July rather than in late August. To me, personally, that was an excellent choice, and I've spoken to many people at the conference and on other occasions about the date. Most people I talked to were either pleased or indifferent. But I could imagine some people didn't come because early July didn't fit well. I would like to have ESUg earlier in the year, and early July was very convenient for me for several reasons: * In my area (southern Germany), the school holidays haven't started by that time, so the conference doesn't interfere with our vacation plans * For exactly that reason, I think we've had a few more people from a more "enterprisey" background * There aren't many other events in July that might interfere with teh ESUG conference Let me also state very clearly that I am not asking on behalf of ESUG or that I am in a position to influence the date, other than maybe by starting a discussion on this list ;-) I am not involved in the planning or organisation of the next ESUG conferences, though this might change in the future, never say never ;-) So, what is your opinion? Does July fit for you, or was the changed date keeping you from attending? Thanks for commenting. Maybe this is of help to the conference organisers, at least I hope so. My intentions are positive ;-) Joachim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 25, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] How did you like July as date for the conference

by Martin McClure

On 09/24/2015 11:27 PM, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > > * In my area (southern Germany), the school holidays haven't started by > that time, so the conference doesn't interfere with our vacation plans > * For exactly that reason, I think we've had a few more people from a > more "enterprisey" background There were also people that I wanted to see that could not come, because they were still dealing with students, so I'd rather see it during the vacation time. > > So, what is your opinion? Does July fit for you, or was the changed date > keeping you from attending? For me personally, mid-July can work, and late August or early September can also. But I think I prefer the later dates. The weather's better (second half of July is peak heat for many places, and this year's heat made the conference considerably less enjoyable), and airfares to get there are often lower. Thanks for asking the question. Regards, -Martin

Sept. 25, 2015

How did you like July as date for the conference

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Hi ESUG list readers, first of all, I'd like to send a late but nevertheless earnest and warm Thank You to all who organized the ESUG 2015 conference. I've enjoyed the conference and the networking. The social event location was great and also Brescia as a city was fantastic. I'd like to ask all who came or couldn't come to comment on the selection of the Date for the conference. This year, the conference was held in early July rather than in late August. To me, personally, that was an excellent choice, and I've spoken to many people at the conference and on other occasions about the date. Most people I talked to were either pleased or indifferent. But I could imagine some people didn't come because early July didn't fit well. I would like to have ESUg earlier in the year, and early July was very convenient for me for several reasons: * In my area (southern Germany), the school holidays haven't started by that time, so the conference doesn't interfere with our vacation plans * For exactly that reason, I think we've had a few more people from a more "enterprisey" background * There aren't many other events in July that might interfere with teh ESUG conference Let me also state very clearly that I am not asking on behalf of ESUG or that I am in a position to influence the date, other than maybe by starting a discussion on this list ;-) I am not involved in the planning or organisation of the next ESUG conferences, though this might change in the future, never say never ;-) So, what is your opinion? Does July fit for you, or was the changed date keeping you from attending? Thanks for commenting. Maybe this is of help to the conference organisers, at least I hope so. My intentions are positive ;-) Joachim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

Sept. 25, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] World.st has a new admin

by Tudor Girba

Thank you both! Doru On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The admin duties have now been handed over to Sean DeNigris who kindly > volunteered to look after the www.world.st web presence as well as the > Nabble archived mailing list forums on forum.world.st. > > As mentioned in a previous post, I did establish The World of Smalltalk > some > years ago I have now unfortunately too many other things on my plate. So I > feel a person who is closer to the Smalltalk action will be better suited > to > take over the reins and I wish Sean all the best to continue! > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/World-st-has-a-new-admin-tp4851810.html > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Sept. 24, 2015

Re: [Esug-list] World.st has a new admin

by Damien Cassou

Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com> writes: > The admin duties have now been handed over to Sean DeNigris who kindly > volunteered to look after the www.world.st web presence as well as the > Nabble archived mailing list forums on forum.world.st. > > As mentioned in a previous post, I did establish The World of Smalltalk some > years ago I have now unfortunately too many other things on my plate. So I > feel a person who is closer to the Smalltalk action will be better suited to > take over the reins and I wish Sean all the best to continue! Thank you Geert for all your past work Thank you Sean for accepting the duty. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill

Sept. 24, 2015