September 2014 - Esug-list

Photos ESUG 2014

by Marcus Denker

Hello, I have put all known links to Galleries with photos here: http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/About/ESUGblog/2014-09-29 Marcus

Sept. 29, 2014

Smalltalker available

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi guys Here is a smalltalker looking for a job. ================================================== I have a three month gap at the moment, and I am looking for audits or short term contracts in Smalltalk or Java. I have 20 years experience in Smalltalk, all dialects, and 15 years in Java, with a special interest in distributed application or language interoperability. I could send a CV for those interested. Please visit my web site below. > ================= > Annick Fron - 04 93 22 88 18 > AFC Europe > B.P. 111 > 977 avenue du Docteur Julien Lefebvre > 06271 Villeneuve-Loubet Cedex France > http://www.afceurope.com > Livre "Architectures Reparties en Java" paru le 5/09/2012 > http://www.dunod.com/pages/ouvrages/ficheouvrage.asp?id=5114

Sept. 26, 2014

ESUG2014: Photos / Reports Wanted!

by Marcus Denker

Hi, We are collecting all links for -> Blog posts -> Photos -> …. related to ESUG 2014. If you have something to share, please send it to me. We will add a page on the esug site later this week. Marcus

Sept. 17, 2014

SPLASH 2014 - Call For Participation

by Craig Anslow

/*************************************************************/ ACM Conference on Systems, Programming, Languages, and Applications: Software for Humanity (SPLASH'14) Portland, Oregon, USA 20-24 October, 2014 http://www.splashcon.org<http://www.splashcon.org/> http://twitter.com/splashcon http://www.facebook.com/SPLASHCon Sponsored by ACM SIGPLAN /************************************************************** CALL FOR PARTICIPATION **************************************************************/ The ACM SIGPLAN conference on Systems, Programming, Languages and Applications: Software for Humanity (SPLASH) embraces all aspects of software construction and delivery to make it the premier conference at the intersection of programming, languages, and software engineering. SPLASH is now inviting calls for participation. ** REGISTRATION ** 19 September 2014 (Early Deadline) Contact: info(a)splashcon.org<mailto:info@splashcon.org> http://2014.splashcon.org/attending/registration ** CONFERENCE PROGRAM ** http://2014.splashcon.org/program/program-splash2014 ** KEYNOTE Speakers ** Gary McGraw (Cigital): Software Security — A Study in Technology Transfer Peter Norvig (Google): Machine Learning for Programming Bret Victor (WorryDream): Humane Representation of Thought: A Trail Map for the 21st Century http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-keynotes ** OOPSLA Research Papers** Papers that address any aspect of software development are welcome, including requirements, modeling, prototyping, design, implementation, generation, analysis, verification, testing, evaluation, maintenance, reuse, replacement, and retirement of software systems. Papers may address these topics in a variety of ways, including new tools (such as languages, program analyses, and runtime systems), new techniques (such as methodologies, design processes, code organization approaches, and management techniques), and new evaluations (such as formalisms and proofs, corpora analyses, user studies, and surveys). http://2014.splashcon.org/track/oopsla2014 ** Onward! Research Papers ** Onward! is a premier multidisciplinary conference focused on everything to do with programming and software: including processes, methods, languages, communities, and applications. Onward! is more radical, more visionary, and more open than other conferences to ideas that are well-argued but not yet proven. We welcome different ways of thinking about, approaching, and reporting on programming language and software engineering research. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/onward2014-papers ** Onward! Essays ** Onward! Essays is looking for clear and compelling pieces of writing about topics important to the software community. An essay can be an exploration of a topic, its impact, or the circumstances of its creation; it can present a personal view of what is, explore a terrain, or lead the reader in an act of discovery; it can be a philosophical digression or a deep analysis. It can describe a personal journey, perhaps that by which the author reached an understanding of such a topic. The subject area should be interpreted broadly and can include the relationship of software to human endeavors, or its philosophical, sociological, psychological, historical, or anthropological underpinnings. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/onward2014-essays ** Dynamic Languages Symposium (DLS) ** DLS is the premier forum for researchers and practitioners to share knowledge and research on dynamic languages, their implementation, and applications. The influence of dynamic languages — from Lisp to Smalltalk to Python to Javascript — on real-world practice, and research, continues to grow. We invite high quality papers reporting original research, innovative contributions, or experience related to dynamic languages, their implementation, and applications. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/dls14-papers ** Wavefront ** The SPLASH Wavefront track is looking for presentations and technology talks of interest to the software community, particularly to software professionals working in companies large and small. Wavefront is a forum for presenting experience reports and tutorials about innovative tools, technologies, and software practices. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-wavefront ** Panels ** The Panels track offers exciting discussion about topics related to SPLASH. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-panels ** SPLASH-E ** The SPLASH-E track brings together researchers and educators to share educational results, ideas, and challenges centered in Software and Programming Languages. Submission formats vary, including papers, tool demos, lightning talks, challenge-topics for discussion, and suggested themes for "unconference" sessions. Help us create an engaging forum for educational issues related to SPLASH! http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-splash-e ** Artifacts ** The Artifact Evaluation process is a service provided by the community to help authors of accepted papers provide more substantial supplements to their papers so future researchers can more effectively build on and compare with previous work. The Artifact Evaluation Committee has been formed to assess how well paper authors prepare artifacts in support of such future researchers. Roughly, authors of papers who wish to participate are invited to submit an artifact that supports the conclusions of the paper. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-artifacts ** Workshops ** The SPLASH Workshops track will host a variety of high-quality workshops (14 in total), allowing their participants to meet and discuss research questions with peers, to mature new and exciting ideas, and to build up communities and start new collaborations. SPLASH workshops complement the main tracks of the conference and provide meetings in a smaller and more specialized setting. Workshops cultivate new ideas and concepts for the future, optionally recorded in formal proceedings. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-workshops ** Tutorials ** The SPLASH Tutorials track will consist of prestigious tutorials on current topics in software, systems, and languages research. The scope of the tutorials is the same as the conference itself: all aspects of software construction and delivery at the intersection of programming, languages, and software engineering. The tutorials in particular focus on the nexus between research and practice, including work that takes inspiration from or builds connections to areas not commonly considered at SPLASH. Tutorials should introduce researchers to current research in an area, or show important new tools that can be used in research. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-tutorials ** Demos ** The SPLASH Demonstrations track is an excellent vehicle for sharing your latest work with an experienced and technically savvy audience. Live demonstrations show the impact of software innovation. Demonstrations are not product sales pitches, but rather an opportunity to highlight, explain, and present interesting technical aspects of running applications in a dynamic and highly interactive setting. Presenters are encouraged to actively solicit feedback from the audience, which should lead to very interesting and entertaining demonstration sessions. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-demos ** Posters ** The SPLASH Poster track provides an excellent forum for authors to present their recent or ongoing projects in an interactive setting, and receive feedback from the community. We invite submissions covering any aspect of programming, systems, languages and applications. The goal of the poster session is to encourage and facilitate small groups of individuals interested in a technical area to gather and interact. It is held early in the conference, to promote continued discussion among interested parties. Posters can be independent presentations or associated with one of the other parts of SPLASH. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-posters ** Doctoral Symposium ** The SPLASH Doctoral Symposium provides students with useful guidance for completing their dissertation research and beginning their research careers. The Symposium will provide an interactive forum for doctoral students who have progressed far enough in their research to have a structured proposal, but will not be defending their dissertation in the next 12 months. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-ds ** Student Research Competition ** The ACM SIGPLAN Student Research Competition (ACM SRC) is an internationally-recognized venue that enables undergraduate and graduate students to experience the research world, share their research results with other students and SPLASH attendees. The competition has separate categories for undergraduate and graduate students and awards prizes to the top three students in each category. The ACM SIGPLAN Student Research Competition shares the Poster session’s goal to facilitate interaction with researchers and industry practitioners; providing both sides with the opportunity to learn of ongoing, current research. http://2014.splashcon.org/track/splash2014-src ** Co-located Events ** ACM SIGAda’s Annual International Conference High Integrity Language Technology (HILT) http://sigada.org/conf/hilt2014/ Multicore Parallel Programming Course: - Offers experienced programmers an opportunity to learn about multicore programming and gain mastery of cutting-edge parallel programming tools. http://eecs.oregonstate.edu/multicore-programming ** Location ** Portland Marriott Downtown Waterfront Hotel Portland, Oregon, USA ** Organization ** SPLASH General Chair: Andrew Black (Portland State University) OOPSLA Papers Chair: Todd Millstein (University of California, Los Angeles) Onward! Papers Chair: Shriram Krishnamurthi (Brown University) Onward! Essays Chair: Bernd Bruegge (TU Munich) DLS Papers Chair: Laurence Tratt (King’s College, London) SPLASH-E Chair: Kathi Fisler (Worcester Polytechnic Institute) Wavefront Co-Chairs: David Archer (Galois) and Dennis Mancl (Alcatel-Lucent) Artifacts Co-Chairs: Matthias Hauswirth (university of Lugano) and Robby Findler (Northwestern University) Workshop Co-Chairs: Stephanie Balzer (Carnegie Mellon University) and Du Li (Carnegie Mellon University) Tutorials Chair: James Noble (Victoria University of Wellington) Demos Chair: Floreal Morandat (Enseirb-Matmeca) Posters Co-Chairs: K R Jayaram (IBM Research) and Nick Sumner (Simon Fraser University) Doctoral Symposium Chair: Lukasz Ziarek (State University of New York, Buffalo) Student Research Competition Co-Chairs: Isil Dillig (University of Texas, Austin) and Sam Guyer (Tufts University) Student Volunteer Co-Chairs: Jonathan Bell (Columbia University) and Darya Kurilova (Carnegie Mellon University) Publicity and Web Chair: Craig Anslow (University of Calgary) Web Technology Chair: Eelco Visser (Delft University of Technology) Publications Chair: Joseph Ruskiewicz (Portland State University) Student Mentoring Chair: Carlos Jensen (Oregon State University) Mobile App Chair: Reid Holmes (University of Waterloo) /*************************************************************/ Kind regards, Craig Craig Anslow, PhD Postdoctoral Research Fellow Department of Computer Science University of Calgary, Canada T: 403 210 8159 E: craig.anslow(a)ucalgary.ca<mailto:craig.anslow@ucalgary.ca> W: http://anslow.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/

Sept. 16, 2014

How to contribute CP1251TextConverter ?

by Юрий Мироненко

As the part of my SmallPOS project I was forced to implement CP1251TextConverter. Question is: how to contribute it into Pharo and/or Squeak and/or any other dialect? There are CP1250TextConverter and CP1252TextConverter in standart Pharo, so it looks sound to fill the gap :) Now it can be found in SmallPOS repository ( http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/SmallPOS.html) in category SmallPOS-Reports-CSV

Sept. 11, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] Preparing Glorp Tutorial at ESUG 2014

by Marcus Denker

On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Юрий Мироненко <assargaddon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you, Alejandro. > Thank you, Marcus. > > By the way, how to find the way from conference page (i.e. > http://esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2014) to those pages? Well, > slideshares may probably be found by google (those they won't when I tried > this), but what about esug site? > > For ESUG 2014 it is on my TODO to add better links, we should double check older conferences, too. > Probably I will be interested in other presentation or/and presentations > of other years conferences. > > 2014-09-09 18:04 GMT+04:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > >> http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/1%20monday/1400-1500-Glorp/ >> http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/4%20thursday/1130-1200-Glorp/ >> >> The Abstract.txt has links to the slides and the video >> >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Alejandro Infante < >> alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> All the presentation that were given to the students volunteers at ESUG >>> were uploaded here: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/presentations >>> >>> Also I have found some presentations about GLORP: >>> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/round-trip-in-glorp >>> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorial-talk >>> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorialguide-esug201401 >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alejandro >>> >>> On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Юрий Мироненко <assargaddon(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Dear Niall, >>> >>> Unfortunately, I failed to attend the conference. But your GLORP >>> tutorial intriguing me, especially your "Advanced Glorp: round-trip >>> refactoring of a GLORP application" part. GLORP documentation is rather >>> rare, incomplete and outdated. Using GLORP for years I'm still quite unsure >>> if any step outside simplest approaches are made. Generating where-clauses >>> is an example. >>> >>> Do you have some presentation, video or other materials I can download >>> and read? >>> I tried to find it myself, but only found your 2013 presentation "How >>> and Where in GLORP". >>> >>> 2014-08-14 0:05 GMT+04:00 Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net>: >>> >>>> Dear François, >>>> >>>> > There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description >>>> > says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their >>>> laptop. >>>> > Is there any planned session to get this setup working? >>>> >>>> I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow. However, also: >>>> >>>> 1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday. I will help >>>> anyone there who asks to get set up. >>>> >>>> 2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell >>>> me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting >>>> set up. I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break. >>>> >>>> > We need a VW image >>>> >>>> It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the >>>> presenter. Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download >>>> the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version >>>> >>>> (You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its >>>> latest Glorp. :-) Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I >>>> can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) ) >>>> >>>> > A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well? >>>> >>>> The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the >>>> presenter applies to your choice of database. >>>> >>>> - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine. >>>> >>>> - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK. >>>> >>>> - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK. "SQL is >>>> a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-) >>>> >>>> > with Glorp loaded. Any special steps to do that? >>>> >>>> Load Glorp and GlorpTest. (These are parcels in your VisualWorks >>>> installation. Components of the same name exist in other dialects.) >>>> >>>> - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of >>>> GlorpDatabaseLoginResource. >>>> >>>> - Choose a method that matches your database platform. >>>> >>>> - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on >>>> your machine. >>>> >>>> - Execute the method; check the value of DefaultLogin is what you >>>> expect. >>>> >>>> - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests. >>>> >>>> On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green. >>>> >>>> (On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected; I >>>> will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving >>>> correctly.) >>>> >>>> If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the >>>> values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> Niall Ross >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Esug-list mailing list >>>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org >> http://www.marcusdenker.de >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -- -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Sept. 9, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] Preparing Glorp Tutorial at ESUG 2014

by Юрий Мироненко

Thank you, Alejandro. Thank you, Marcus. By the way, how to find the way from conference page (i.e. http://esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2014) to those pages? Well, slideshares may probably be found by google (those they won't when I tried this), but what about esug site? Probably I will be interested in other presentation or/and presentations of other years conferences. 2014-09-09 18:04 GMT+04:00 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>: > http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/1%20monday/1400-1500-Glorp/ > http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/4%20thursday/1130-1200-Glorp/ > > The Abstract.txt has links to the slides and the video > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Alejandro Infante < > alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> All the presentation that were given to the students volunteers at ESUG >> were uploaded here: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/presentations >> >> Also I have found some presentations about GLORP: >> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/round-trip-in-glorp >> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorial-talk >> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorialguide-esug201401 >> >> Cheers, >> Alejandro >> >> On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Юрий Мироненко <assargaddon(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Niall, >> >> Unfortunately, I failed to attend the conference. But your GLORP tutorial >> intriguing me, especially your "Advanced Glorp: round-trip refactoring of a >> GLORP application" part. GLORP documentation is rather rare, incomplete and >> outdated. Using GLORP for years I'm still quite unsure if any step outside >> simplest approaches are made. Generating where-clauses is an example. >> >> Do you have some presentation, video or other materials I can download >> and read? >> I tried to find it myself, but only found your 2013 presentation "How and >> Where in GLORP". >> >> 2014-08-14 0:05 GMT+04:00 Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net>: >> >>> Dear François, >>> >>> > There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description >>> > says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their >>> laptop. >>> > Is there any planned session to get this setup working? >>> >>> I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow. However, also: >>> >>> 1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday. I will help >>> anyone there who asks to get set up. >>> >>> 2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell >>> me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting >>> set up. I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break. >>> >>> > We need a VW image >>> >>> It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the >>> presenter. Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download >>> the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version >>> >>> (You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its >>> latest Glorp. :-) Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I >>> can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) ) >>> >>> > A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well? >>> >>> The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the >>> presenter applies to your choice of database. >>> >>> - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine. >>> >>> - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK. >>> >>> - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK. "SQL is >>> a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-) >>> >>> > with Glorp loaded. Any special steps to do that? >>> >>> Load Glorp and GlorpTest. (These are parcels in your VisualWorks >>> installation. Components of the same name exist in other dialects.) >>> >>> - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of >>> GlorpDatabaseLoginResource. >>> >>> - Choose a method that matches your database platform. >>> >>> - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on >>> your machine. >>> >>> - Execute the method; check the value of DefaultLogin is what you >>> expect. >>> >>> - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests. >>> >>> On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green. >>> >>> (On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected; I >>> will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving >>> correctly.) >>> >>> If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the >>> values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation. >>> >>> HTH >>> Niall Ross >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> > > > -- > -- > Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org > http://www.marcusdenker.de >

Sept. 9, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] Preparing Glorp Tutorial at ESUG 2014

by Marcus Denker

http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/1%20monday/1400-1500-Glorp/ http://esug.org/data/ESUG2014/4%20thursday/1130-1200-Glorp/ The Abstract.txt has links to the slides and the video On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Alejandro Infante < alejandroinfante91(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > All the presentation that were given to the students volunteers at ESUG > were uploaded here: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/presentations > > Also I have found some presentations about GLORP: > http://www.slideshare.net/esug/round-trip-in-glorp > http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorial-talk > http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorialguide-esug201401 > > Cheers, > Alejandro > > On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Юрий Мироненко <assargaddon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Niall, > > Unfortunately, I failed to attend the conference. But your GLORP tutorial > intriguing me, especially your "Advanced Glorp: round-trip refactoring of a > GLORP application" part. GLORP documentation is rather rare, incomplete and > outdated. Using GLORP for years I'm still quite unsure if any step outside > simplest approaches are made. Generating where-clauses is an example. > > Do you have some presentation, video or other materials I can download and > read? > I tried to find it myself, but only found your 2013 presentation "How and > Where in GLORP". > > 2014-08-14 0:05 GMT+04:00 Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net>: > >> Dear François, >> >> > There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description >> > says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their laptop. >> > Is there any planned session to get this setup working? >> >> I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow. However, also: >> >> 1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday. I will help >> anyone there who asks to get set up. >> >> 2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell >> me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting >> set up. I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break. >> >> > We need a VW image >> >> It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the >> presenter. Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download >> the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version >> >> (You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its >> latest Glorp. :-) Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I >> can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) ) >> >> > A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well? >> >> The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the >> presenter applies to your choice of database. >> >> - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine. >> >> - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK. >> >> - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK. "SQL is >> a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-) >> >> > with Glorp loaded. Any special steps to do that? >> >> Load Glorp and GlorpTest. (These are parcels in your VisualWorks >> installation. Components of the same name exist in other dialects.) >> >> - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of >> GlorpDatabaseLoginResource. >> >> - Choose a method that matches your database platform. >> >> - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on >> your machine. >> >> - Execute the method; check the value of DefaultLogin is what you >> expect. >> >> - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests. >> >> On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green. >> >> (On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected; I >> will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving >> correctly.) >> >> If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the >> values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation. >> >> HTH >> Niall Ross >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -- -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

Sept. 9, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] Preparing Glorp Tutorial at ESUG 2014

by Alejandro Infante

Hello, All the presentation that were given to the students volunteers at ESUG were uploaded here: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/presentations Also I have found some presentations about GLORP: http://www.slideshare.net/esug/round-trip-in-glorp http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorial-talk http://www.slideshare.net/esug/glorp-tutorialguide-esug201401 Cheers, Alejandro On Sep 9, 2014, at 10:17 AM, Юрий Мироненко <assargaddon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Niall, > > Unfortunately, I failed to attend the conference. But your GLORP tutorial intriguing me, especially your "Advanced Glorp: round-trip refactoring of a GLORP application" part. GLORP documentation is rather rare, incomplete and outdated. Using GLORP for years I'm still quite unsure if any step outside simplest approaches are made. Generating where-clauses is an example. > > Do you have some presentation, video or other materials I can download and read? > I tried to find it myself, but only found your 2013 presentation "How and Where in GLORP". > > 2014-08-14 0:05 GMT+04:00 Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net>: > Dear François, > > > There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description > > says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their laptop. > > Is there any planned session to get this setup working? > > I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow. However, also: > > 1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday. I will help > anyone there who asks to get set up. > > 2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell > me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting > set up. I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break. > > > We need a VW image > > It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the > presenter. Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download > the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version > > (You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its > latest Glorp. :-) Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I > can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) ) > > > A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well? > > The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the > presenter applies to your choice of database. > > - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine. > > - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK. > > - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK. "SQL is > a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-) > > > with Glorp loaded. Any special steps to do that? > > Load Glorp and GlorpTest. (These are parcels in your VisualWorks > installation. Components of the same name exist in other dialects.) > > - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of > GlorpDatabaseLoginResource. > > - Choose a method that matches your database platform. > > - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on > your machine. > > - Execute the method; check the value of DefaultLogin is what you > expect. > > - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests. > > On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green. > > (On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected; I > will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving > correctly.) > > If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the > values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation. > > HTH > Niall Ross > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 9, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] Preparing Glorp Tutorial at ESUG 2014

by Юрий Мироненко

Dear Niall, Unfortunately, I failed to attend the conference. But your GLORP tutorial intriguing me, especially your "Advanced Glorp: round-trip refactoring of a GLORP application" part. GLORP documentation is rather rare, incomplete and outdated. Using GLORP for years I'm still quite unsure if any step outside simplest approaches are made. Generating where-clauses is an example. Do you have some presentation, video or other materials I can download and read? I tried to find it myself, but only found your 2013 presentation "How and Where in GLORP". 2014-08-14 0:05 GMT+04:00 Niall Ross <nfr(a)bigwig.net>: > Dear François, > > > There is a Glorp tutorial scheduled at 2pm on Monday. The description > > says that we attendants should have a Glorp Ready setup on their laptop. > > Is there any planned session to get this setup working? > > I trust the instructions below will be easy to follow. However, also: > > 1) I will be at Camp Smalltalk on Saturday and Sunday. I will help > anyone there who asks to get set up. > > 2) I'll arrange that people registering on Monday have a way to tell > me if they are attending the tutorial and are having problems getting > set up. I'll talk to them in the morning coffee break. > > > We need a VW image > > It keeps things simple if attenders have the same set up as the > presenter. Visit http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/ to download > the VisualWorks 7.10.1 personal use version > > (You won't be thrown out if you turn up with another dialect and its > latest Glorp. :-) Just be aware it's "caveat emptor" if any hiccough I > can't reproduce in my image hits you. :-) ) > > > A stock PostgreSQL 9.3 is enough as well? > > The same point about the advantage of using the same thing as the > presenter applies to your choice of database. > > - Visiting www.postgresql.org and installing the latest 9.3 is fine. > > - Any older Postgres 9.* - and, I would expect 8.* - should work OK. > > - Any other database that Glorp supports _should_ work OK. "SQL is > a standard - so it differs everywhere", Alan Knight. :-) > > > with Glorp loaded. Any special steps to do that? > > Load Glorp and GlorpTest. (These are parcels in your VisualWorks > installation. Components of the same name exist in other dialects.) > > - Look at the 'data' protocol on the class side of > GlorpDatabaseLoginResource. > > - Choose a method that matches your database platform. > > - Edit it to connect to some (empty or unimportant) test database on > your machine. > > - Execute the method; check the value of DefaultLogin is what you > expect. > > - Run the GlorpTest SUnit tests. > > On Postgres and VisualWorks, you should see all tests run green. > > (On some other databases and/or dialects, some failures are expected; I > will bring test data so you can verify your installation is behaving > correctly.) > > If you get many failures, check simple things like your typing of the > values in DefaultLogin, or the parameters of your database installation. > > HTH > Niall Ross > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Sept. 9, 2014