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Re: [Esug-list] "Pharo is Smalltalk inspired"

by Clément Bera

2014-07-31 12:05 GMT+02:00 Helge Nowak <hknowak(a)yahoo.de>: > Dear Pharoers, > > I stumbled upon Doru’s (BTW excellent, as usual) presentation on Live > Objects at NDC 2014. In there he states “Pharo is Smalltalk inspired. … we > want to point ourselves that we are Smalltalk inspired because we want to > move towards the future”. This implies three things: > > 1. Pharo is NOT Smalltalk > 2. All Smalltalks are not moving towards the future > 3. The Pharo community wants to get divorced from the community that > gave them birth > > > I am wondering whether this is indeed the official position of the Pharo > community? And how the Smalltalkers think about it. > Well, I tried to open a smalltalk-80 image recently and it didn't work on the Pharo VM. In addition, it seems that recent Pharo images cannot run on the Xerox-D microcoded machines. So I think clearly Pharo is not Smalltalk for obvious backward compatibility issues. I love mails about this topic it really makes my day each time :-). Clement > > Cheers > Helge > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

July 31, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] "Pharo is Smalltalk inspired"

by Johan Fabry

On Jul 31, 2014, at 6:05 AM, Helge Nowak <hknowak(a)yahoo.de> wrote: > Dear Pharoers, > > I stumbled upon Doru’s (BTW excellent, as usual) presentation on Live Objects at NDC 2014. In there he states “Pharo is Smalltalk inspired. … we want to point ourselves that we are Smalltalk inspired because we want to move towards the future”. This implies three things: > • Pharo is NOT Smalltalk Well, the question may also be: what IS Smalltalk? The ANSI Standard? ST-80? Whose implementation IS Smalltalk in that case? I think many current implementations may safely say that they are Smalltalk-inpired. > • All Smalltalks are not moving towards the future I think you are overgeneralizing. Doru is saying that Pharo is not sticking to (let’s say) the historical concept of Smalltalk. Sure, you may imply from that that some Smalltalks ARE sticking to that concept. But IMO it is not valid to conclude that he is saying that ALL of them are like that. > • The Pharo community wants to get divorced from the community that gave them birth I don’t follow your reasoning. Divorce is a very strong and aggressive statement. I don’t see that from what Doru is saying. Could you provide more detail for your train of thought? > I am wondering whether this is indeed the official position of the Pharo community? And how the Smalltalkers think about it. Just my 0.02EUR ... ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

July 31, 2014

"Pharo is Smalltalk inspired"

by Helge Nowak

Dear Pharoers, I stumbled upon Doru’s (BTW excellent, as usual) presentation on Live Objects at NDC 2014. In there he states “Pharo is Smalltalk inspired. … we want to point ourselves that we are Smalltalk inspired because we want to move towards the future”. This implies three things: 1. Pharo is NOT Smalltalk 2. All Smalltalks are not moving towards the future 3. The Pharo community wants to get divorced from the community that gave them birth I am wondering whether this is indeed the official position of the Pharo community? And how the Smalltalkers think about it. Cheers Helge

July 31, 2014

Pharo success stories

by Stéphane Ducasse

"Pharo success stories" is getting started at http://www.pharo.org/success TrentoSur http://trentosur.com looks so sexy Please send me information about yours they will be added to the pending queue Stef

July 31, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2014 REMINDER: 11th Innovation Technology Awards

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Jan, I see the exact same behavior on Safari 7.05 on Mac. So how can we propose a solution??? Joachim Am 28.07.14 um 20:41 schrieb Jan Vrany: > Hi Jordi, > > thanks for reminder :-) > > >> Applicants should provide the following information on the conference >> registration server. Once you have registered your personal info, an >> 'Awards' menu allows submitting your software. You can provide this >> information when you first register, or login again later and update >> your details. > > Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but it does not work for me. > > When I log in, I see top menu (items in capital on back background) > and second menu (normal letters, turquoise background). None contains > 'Awards' though the second contains 'Proposed Awards', so I guess > this is what you meant. > > When clicking 'Proposed Awards' I see a page showing: > > Submitted awards > Add > Name (D) > Total: 0 > > I found no way to add a new proposal. The 'Add' text is not > clickable. Could you please give me a hint what I'm doing wrong? > > All the best, Jan > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

July 29, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2014 REMINDER: 11th Innovation Technology Awards

by Jan Vrany

Hi Jordi, thanks for reminder :-) > > Applicants should provide the following information on the conference > registration server. Once you have registered your personal info, an > 'Awards' menu allows submitting your software. You can provide this > information when you first register, or login again later and update > your details. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but it does not work for me. When I log in, I see top menu (items in capital on back background) and second menu (normal letters, turquoise background). None contains 'Awards' though the second contains 'Proposed Awards', so I guess this is what you meant. When clicking 'Proposed Awards' I see a page showing: Submitted awards Add Name (D) Total: 0 I found no way to add a new proposal. The 'Add' text is not clickable. Could you please give me a hint what I'm doing wrong? All the best, Jan

July 28, 2014

ESUG 2014 REMINDER: 11th Innovation Technology Awards

by Jordi Delgado

ESUG 2014 REMINDER: 11th Innovation Technology Awards http://esug.org/Conferences/2014/Innovation-Technology-Awards Have you written innovative Smalltalk? The developers of any Smalltalk-based software can enter by submitting a 3-5min video of their software. Entrants demo their systems in a session at the end of Monday August 18th 2014, after which the conference attendees vote. (A vote consists in providing a sorted list of 3 preferred pieces of software.) The top 3 teams with the most innovative software will receive, respectively, 500 Euros, 300 Euros and 200 Euros. The results are announced in the Awards ceremony that is held during the social event. Applicants should provide the following information on the conference registration server. Once you have registered your personal info, an 'Awards' menu allows submitting your software. You can provide this information when you first register, or login again later and update your details. The registration server will open soon. You can start preparing your software right now though. Info to provide: Name of the software Licence information (free, shareware, or commercial) Name of the Smalltalk dialect used Name, Affiliation and Country of developers Besides, it would be great if the submission could include: URL for a video (3-5 min) showing a screencast / demo of the software URL for downloading the software or at least a runnable demo Deadline: August 15th Any Smalltalker can apply (students, companies, ...). The presented piece of code/software should be written in Smalltalk or directly support Smalltalk (e.g. Smalltalk VM). All Smalltalk dialects are accepted. The applicant should be "strongly related" to the presented code, be it as an author, as owner of the copyright/copyleft, or as an official representative of the copyright/copyleft owner. Bests, Jordi

July 27, 2014

CFP - Workshop on Evaluation and Usability of Programming Languages and Tools (PLATEAU)

by Craig Anslow

PLATEAU 2014 - CALL FOR PAPERS Fifth Workshop on Evaluation and Usability of Programming Languages and Tools (PLATEAU) Portland, Oregon, United States http://2014.splashcon.org/track/plateau2014 Workshop co-located with SPLASH, 20-24 October, 2014 http://2014.splashcon.org/ ** Theme ** Programming languages exist to enable programmers to develop software effectively. But how efficiently programmers can write software depends on the usability of the languages and tools that they develop with. The aim of this workshop is to discuss methods, metrics and techniques for evaluating the usability of languages and language tools. The supposed benefits of such languages and tools cover a large space, including making programs easier to read, write, and maintain; allowing programmers to write more flexible and powerful programs; and restricting programs to make them more safe and secure. PLATEAU gathers the intersection of researchers in the programming language, programming tool, and human-computer interaction communities to share their research and discuss the future of evaluation and usability of programming languages and tools. Some particular areas of interest are: - empirical studies of programming languages - methodologies and philosophies behind language and tool evaluation - software design metrics and their relations to the underlying language - user studies of language features and software engineering tools - visual techniques for understanding programming languages - critical comparisons of programming paradigms - tools to support evaluating programming languages - psychology of programming ** Submission Details ** PLATEAU encourages submissions of three types of papers: Research and position papers: We encourage papers that describe work-in-progress or recently completed work based on the themes and goals of the workshop or related topics, report on experiences gained, question accepted wisdom, raise challenging open problems, or propose speculative new approaches. We will accept two types of papers: research papers up to 8 pages in length; and position papers up to 2 pages in length. Hypotheses papers: Hypotheses papers explicitly identify beliefs of the research community or software industry about how a programming language, programming language feature, or programming language tool affects programming practice. Hypotheses can be collected from mailing lists, blog posts, paper introductions, developer forums, or interviews. Papers should clearly document the source(s) of each hypothesis and discuss the importance, use, and relevance of the hypotheses on research or practice. Papers may also, but are not required to, review evidence for or against the hypotheses identified. Hypotheses papers can be up to 4 pages in length. Papers will be published in the ACM Digital Library at the authors’ discretion. ** Important Dates ** Workshop paper submission due - 1 August, 2014 Notification to authors - 22 August, 2014 Early registration deadline - 19 September, 2014 ** Keynote ** Josh Bloch, former Chief Java Architect at Google and Distinguished Engineer at Sun Microsystems. ** Workshop Organizers ** Thomas LaToza, University of California, Irvine Joshua Sunshine, Carnegie Mellon University Craig Anslow, University of Calgary ** Program Committee ** Jennifer Baldwin, University of Victoria Andrew Begel, Microsoft Research Andrew Black, Portland State University Alan Blackwell, University of Cambridge Jeffrey Carver, University of Alabama Sebastian Erdweg, TU Darmstadt Thomas Fritz, University of Zurich Stefan Hanenberg, University of Duisburg-Essen Matthias Hauswirth, University of Lugano Ciera Jaspan, Google Leo Meyerovich, UC Berkeley Gail Murphy, University of British Columbia Emerson Murphy-Hill, NC State James Noble, Victoria University of Wellington Chris Parnin, NC State Janet Siegmund, University of Passau Andreas Stefik, University of Nevada, Las Vegas Chris Scaffidi, Oregon State University Éric Tanter, University of Chile — Kind regards, Craig Craig Anslow, PhD Postdoctoral Research Fellow Department of Computer Science University of Calgary, Canada T: 403 210 8159 E: craig.anslow(a)ucalgary.ca<mailto:craig.anslow@ucalgary.ca> W: http://anslow.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/

July 17, 2014

Re: [Esug-list] esug 2014 - looking for a late connection to cambridge

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Tudor, you can take a bus from Stansted to Cambridge, but I am afraid it won't leave any later. There is a relatively cheap hotel near the Stansted airport (was it a Holiday Inn Express), so you could stay there overnight and leave for Cambridge the next morning. This one is probably cheaper and more comfortable than a Cab. OTOH, you can always see if you can book a taxi in advance for a fixed price. These are the options I've seen when I was planning my trip... Joachim Am 15.07.14 17:05, schrieb Tudor Girba: > Hi, > > I am looking for options to book the travel to Cambridge. The only > flight the Stansted airport available to me arrives at 23:00. > Unfortunately, the latest train leaves Stansted at 23:04 so I cannot > make it to that one. > > Does anyone know another way to reach Cambridge from Stansted? How > much would a cab cost? > > Cheers, > Doru > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

July 15, 2014

esug 2014 - looking for a late connection to cambridge

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I am looking for options to book the travel to Cambridge. The only flight the Stansted airport available to me arrives at 23:00. Unfortunately, the latest train leaves Stansted at 23:04 so I cannot make it to that one. Does anyone know another way to reach Cambridge from Stansted? How much would a cab cost? Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 15, 2014