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Re: [Esug-list] [Seaside] [ANN] Pharo 2 Summer released

by Tudor Girba

Thank you! Doru On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > The Pharo Team is happy to announce the Pharo 2 Summer release, > the regular half of the year bugfix edition. > > For this version, we incorporated really few changes since 2.0 was a > really successful release. Anyway, we managed to sneak in a couple of minor > additions: > > - Integrated ProfStef > - Updated Configurations Browser > > Also, we integrated 42 bugfixes, 20 of them backported from 3. 0 alpha. > > As always, Summer edition can be downloaded at: > > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > We want to thank to all members of the community for their help and > support and specially to all who submitted the reports, fixed the bugs and > tested them. > > The Pharo Team > > > List complete of bugfixes and backports: > =============================== > > Fixed: > -------- > > 7345 DNU with Glamour: PaginatedMorphTreeMorph>>setSelectedMorph: > https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7345 > > 10014 World menu > System > Switch User serves no purpose > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10014/World-menu-System-Switch-User-serve… > 10004 SmalltalkImage current reportCPUandRAM > DNU > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10004/SmalltalkImage-current-reportCPUand… > > 10017 ProtocolCLient do not propagate the erros from the server > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10017 > > 7627 FileReference>>deleteAll follows symlinks > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7627 > > 10027 Failing Test: FileReferenceTest>>#testDeleteAl > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10027 > > 10123 Bug in warning in CriticBrowser > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10123 > > 10196 Change shortcuts default settings of 2.0 to the traditional ones > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10196 > 10195 Replace ugly Keymappings API on:do: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10195 > 10200 Date instances dayOfWeek wrong > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10200 > 10109 MNU : SmalltalkEditor>>browseItHere: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10109 > 10394 Duplicated instance #model in NewList (already defined in > MorphicModel) > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10394 > 10336 Port 2.0: Document difference between TextModel and > TextInputFieldModel > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10336 > 10653 Some Jenkins images show a stdout is closed error > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10653 > > 10653 Some Jenkins images show a stdout is closed error > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10653 > 10415 Integrate 2.0: 10411 flush after nextChunkPut: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10415 > > 10888 Backport 2.0: Compound Extension Methods Unpackaged > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10888/Backport-2-0-Compound-Extension-Met… > > 10730 Fix for stack serialization with Fuel > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10730/Fix-for-stack-serialization-with-Fu… > > 10946 HistoryCollection package is empty > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10946 > > 11101 fileOutMethod:on: uncategorized in 2.0 > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11101 > 11179 Config browser buttons broken due to missing method > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11179 > > 10860 option click on list in TestRunner and others: freeze system > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10860 > > Backported: > ---------------- > 10194 Backport to 2.0: special objects array recreation crash > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10194 > 10185 Backport 2.0: 10173 ClassBuilder cannot safely modify a class why > using it > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10185 > 10174 Backport 2.0 Issue 10162: multiple selection of methods in method > pane ... > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10174 > > 10249 Backport 2.0: Red Light when all test are green > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10249 > 10230 backport 2.0: 10229 Fix sender of #copyWithTempsFromMethodNode: > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10230 > 10179 backport 2.0: 10038 Wrong deprecated message > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10179 > > 10260 backport 2.0: 10258 DivideByZero in SystemProgressMorph > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10260 > 10406 backport 2.0: 5819 Implement a way to get the user directories based > on the current OS > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10406 > 10396 backport 2.0 10395 DNU SmallInteger>>#add: when loading metacello > configuration > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10396 > 10387 backport 2.0: 10102 SocketStream>>next: should not signal > ConncetionClosed > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10387 > 10311 Backport 2.0: 10228 Fix tab key for autocompletion > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10311 > > 10537 Backport 2.0: StartupPreferences interferes with zeroconf pharo > binary > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10537 > > 10938 backport 2.0 : an MCOrganizationDefinition should only remove empty > categories during unload > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10938 > 10909 Backport Pharo2.0: Prepare isHeadless for new VMs with double dash > -- arguments > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10909 > > 10994 Backport 2.0: Delays do not work properly directly on image startup > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10994/Backport-2-0-Delays-do-not-work-pro… > > 10931 Backport 2.0: Filing out extension package in Nautilus produces > empty file > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10931 > 10978 Backport 20: ZipArchive utf8 handling > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10978 > 11125 backport 2.0: 10859 Monticello freezing the image > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11125 > 10569 Backport 2.0: Better Interrruptionche > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10569 > 10940 Backport 2.0: 10925 Use caching in Gofer > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10940 > > 11252 backport 2.0: have SliceMaker use fogbugz > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11252 > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 31, 2013

[ANN] Pharo 2 Summer released

by Esteban Lorenzano

The Pharo Team is happy to announce the Pharo 2 Summer release, the regular half of the year bugfix edition. For this version, we incorporated really few changes since 2.0 was a really successful release. Anyway, we managed to sneak in a couple of minor additions: - Integrated ProfStef - Updated Configurations Browser Also, we integrated 42 bugfixes, 20 of them backported from 3. 0 alpha. As always, Summer edition can be downloaded at: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download We want to thank to all members of the community for their help and support and specially to all who submitted the reports, fixed the bugs and tested them. The Pharo Team List complete of bugfixes and backports: =============================== Fixed: -------- 7345 DNU with Glamour: PaginatedMorphTreeMorph>>setSelectedMorph: https://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=7345 10014 World menu > System > Switch User serves no purpose https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10014/World-menu-System-Switch-User-serve… 10004 SmalltalkImage current reportCPUandRAM > DNU https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10004/SmalltalkImage-current-reportCPUand… 10017 ProtocolCLient do not propagate the erros from the server https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10017 7627 FileReference>>deleteAll follows symlinks https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/7627 10027 Failing Test: FileReferenceTest>>#testDeleteAl https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10027 10123 Bug in warning in CriticBrowser https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10123 10196 Change shortcuts default settings of 2.0 to the traditional ones https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10196 10195 Replace ugly Keymappings API on:do: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10195 10200 Date instances dayOfWeek wrong https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10200 10109 MNU : SmalltalkEditor>>browseItHere: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10109 10394 Duplicated instance #model in NewList (already defined in MorphicModel) https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10394 10336 Port 2.0: Document difference between TextModel and TextInputFieldModel https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10336 10653 Some Jenkins images show a stdout is closed error https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10653 10653 Some Jenkins images show a stdout is closed error https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10653 10415 Integrate 2.0: 10411 flush after nextChunkPut: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10415 10888 Backport 2.0: Compound Extension Methods Unpackaged https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10888/Backport-2-0-Compound-Extension-Met… 10730 Fix for stack serialization with Fuel https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10730/Fix-for-stack-serialization-with-Fu… 10946 HistoryCollection package is empty https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10946 11101 fileOutMethod:on: uncategorized in 2.0 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11101 11179 Config browser buttons broken due to missing method https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11179 10860 option click on list in TestRunner and others: freeze system https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10860 Backported: ---------------- 10194 Backport to 2.0: special objects array recreation crash https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10194 10185 Backport 2.0: 10173 ClassBuilder cannot safely modify a class why using it https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10185 10174 Backport 2.0 Issue 10162: multiple selection of methods in method pane ... https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10174 10249 Backport 2.0: Red Light when all test are green https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10249 10230 backport 2.0: 10229 Fix sender of #copyWithTempsFromMethodNode: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10230 10179 backport 2.0: 10038 Wrong deprecated message https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10179 10260 backport 2.0: 10258 DivideByZero in SystemProgressMorph https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10260 10406 backport 2.0: 5819 Implement a way to get the user directories based on the current OS https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10406 10396 backport 2.0 10395 DNU SmallInteger>>#add: when loading metacello configuration https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10396 10387 backport 2.0: 10102 SocketStream>>next: should not signal ConncetionClosed https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10387 10311 Backport 2.0: 10228 Fix tab key for autocompletion https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10311 10537 Backport 2.0: StartupPreferences interferes with zeroconf pharo binary https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10537 10938 backport 2.0 : an MCOrganizationDefinition should only remove empty categories during unload https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10938 10909 Backport Pharo2.0: Prepare isHeadless for new VMs with double dash -- arguments https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10909 10994 Backport 2.0: Delays do not work properly directly on image startup https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10994/Backport-2-0-Delays-do-not-work-pro… 10931 Backport 2.0: Filing out extension package in Nautilus produces empty file https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10931 10978 Backport 20: ZipArchive utf8 handling https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10978 11125 backport 2.0: 10859 Monticello freezing the image https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11125 10569 Backport 2.0: Better Interrruptionche https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10569 10940 Backport 2.0: 10925 Use caching in Gofer https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10940 11252 backport 2.0: have SliceMaker use fogbugz https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/11252

July 31, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Stuttgart - ESUG, ESUG-Stuttgart

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Hi again, I just found http://de.voyages-sncf.com and there I found a very good connection at an attractive price. So I am not going to drive by car. Sorry for any inconvenience. Joachim

July 30, 2013

[ESUG 2013] Please Register before 12 of August

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi Smalltalk friends I can tell you that the Conference will be great. We are doing another pass on the schedule and the social event :). Now the organisation has some strong deadlines for Tshirts… We will send some other announces for example for the Camp meals. Stef

July 29, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Cyclomatic Compexity

by Jan Vrany

Thanks guys, I'll have a look. Best, Jan On 28/07/13 18:59, Tudor Girba wrote: > If Moose is loaded, you can do for example: > > ((MoosePharoImporterTask new addClasses: {Morph}; run) > allClasses entityNamed: Morph mooseName) > weightedMethodCount > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/computing-metrics-for-one-pharo-class… > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Pablo Estefó <pestefo(a)gmail.com > <mailto:pestefo@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hapao computes cyclomatic complexity of a method and uses it in its > blueprint. > > http://hapao.dcc.uchile.cl/ > > I hope it is what you are looking for. > > Cheers, > Pablo > > El 28-07-2013, a las 13:49, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz > <mailto:jan.vrany@fit.cvut.cz>> escribió: > >> Hi, >> >> does anybody know about package/code in Smalltalk that computes >> cyclomatic complexity of a Smalltalk method? >> >> Thanks, Jan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org> >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org <mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org> > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com <http://www.tudorgirba.com> > > "Every thing has its own flow"

July 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Cyclomatic Compexity

by Tudor Girba

If Moose is loaded, you can do for example: ((MoosePharoImporterTask new addClasses: {Morph}; run) allClasses entityNamed: Morph mooseName) weightedMethodCount http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/computing-metrics-for-one-pharo-class… Cheers, Doru On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Pablo Estefó <pestefo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hapao computes cyclomatic complexity of a method and uses it in its > blueprint. > > http://hapao.dcc.uchile.cl/ > > I hope it is what you are looking for. > > Cheers, > Pablo > > El 28-07-2013, a las 13:49, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> escribió: > > Hi, > > does anybody know about package/code in Smalltalk that computes cyclomatic > complexity of a Smalltalk method? > > Thanks, Jan > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Cyclomatic Compexity

by Pablo Estefó

Hapao computes cyclomatic complexity of a method and uses it in its blueprint. http://hapao.dcc.uchile.cl/ I hope it is what you are looking for. Cheers, Pablo El 28-07-2013, a las 13:49, Jan Vrany <jan.vrany(a)fit.cvut.cz> escribió: > Hi, > > does anybody know about package/code in Smalltalk that computes cyclomatic complexity of a Smalltalk method? > > Thanks, Jan > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 28, 2013

Cyclomatic Compexity

by Jan Vrany

Hi, does anybody know about package/code in Smalltalk that computes cyclomatic complexity of a Smalltalk method? Thanks, Jan

July 28, 2013

[Smalltalks 2013] --- Invitation

by Andres Valloud

The Fundación Argentina de Smalltalk (FAST, http://www.fast.org.ar) invites you to the 7th International Conference on Smalltalk Technologies (Smalltalks), to be held from October 30th through November 1st at the Universidad Tecnológica Nacional, Facultad Regional Rosario, located in Rosario, Argentina. Everyone, including teachers, students, researchers, developers and entrepreneurs, are welcome as speakers or attendees. Registration is free and now open at http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2013. This year we are accepting donations from participants to help fund the conference's costs. Please see the Donate section at FAST's website, http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2013/donate. Contributions are greatly appreciated, and can be received both in pesos for local attendees, as well as via Paypal for those coming from abroad. Donors will receive a set of thank you gifts as well as the conference's shirt. The goal of the Conference is to strengthen the bonds between the Argentine and the international Smalltalk community through the exchange of works, experiences and anecdotes connected with this technology and related matters. As in the previous editions, renowned members of the international Smalltalk community will visit us, and like last year we will have a Research Session with publications reviewed by an international committee. Also, the traditional Industry Track will be available for those who prefer a more practical environment. You can submit papers or talks now through our website at http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2013/technical-session The Industry Track's submission deadline is October 7th. For more information about related events, such as a Pharo Sprint or talks and presentations around the dates of the conference, please visit http://www.fast.org.ar/smalltalks2013/events We will update related event information as we get closer to the conference, so please check for updates. As in previous years, we will have a social dinner during the conference. If you are planning to attend, please reply to this email with a subject of "[Social Dinner]" and indicate how many people will be coming in your party. We will have a variety of dishes available for everyone. If you have special needs other than vegetarian dishes, please let us know. For any additional questions please contact us at info(a)fast.org.ar. See you there!

July 26, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Stuttgart - ESUG, ESUG-Stuttgart

by John O'Keefe

Joachim - Where are you staying in Annecy? I am at the Marina Bay. John O'Keefe [|], CTO/Principal Smalltalk Architect, Instantiations Inc. Skype: john_okeefe2 Mobile: +1 919 417-3181 (Business hours USA Eastern Time zone (GMT -5)) john_okeefe(a)instantiations.com http://www.instantiations.com *VA Smalltalk...Onward and Upward!* On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:59 AM, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de < jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> wrote: > Is anybody interested to share a car ride from Stuttgart (or some place on > the route) to ESUG and back? > I plan to leave Stuttgart Sunday afternoon and drive back on friday after > the conference. > > please contact me off-list for more. > > Joachim > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/**listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.**org<http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org> >

July 26, 2013

Stuttgart - ESUG, ESUG-Stuttgart

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Is anybody interested to share a car ride from Stuttgart (or some place on the route) to ESUG and back? I plan to leave Stuttgart Sunday afternoon and drive back on friday after the conference. please contact me off-list for more. Joachim

July 26, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Exact venue of ESUG conference

by Joachim Tuchel

Thanks Makes travel planning easier Joachim Am 25.07.2013 um 11:51 schrieb laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > Page updated: http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2013/Venue > > Laurent > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:23 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> We will address that point. >> The conference will be held at the >> http://www.iae.univ-savoie.fr >> >> http://www.iae.univ-savoie.fr/images/Plan_d_acces_IAE_Savoie_Mont_Blanc_sit… >> >> Stef >> >> >> On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:09 AM, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > am I assuming right that the ESUG conference will be held at this address: >> > >> > 9 Rue de l'Arc en Ciel, >> > 74940 Annecy-le-Vieux, France >> > >> > Or is the exact location somewhere else? >> > >> > It is not mentioned on the ESUG conference site... >> > >> > Joachim >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Esug-list mailing list >> > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

July 25, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Exact venue of ESUG conference

by laurent laffont

Page updated: http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2013/Venue Laurent On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:23 AM, stephane ducasse < stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > We will address that point. > The conference will be held at the > http://www.iae.univ-savoie.fr > > > http://www.iae.univ-savoie.fr/images/Plan_d_acces_IAE_Savoie_Mont_Blanc_sit… > > Stef > > > On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:09 AM, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > am I assuming right that the ESUG conference will be held at this > address: > > > > 9 Rue de l'Arc en Ciel, > > 74940 Annecy-le-Vieux, France > > > > Or is the exact location somewhere else? > > > > It is not mentioned on the ESUG conference site... > > > > Joachim > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

July 25, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Exact venue of ESUG conference

by stephane ducasse

We will address that point. The conference will be held at the http://www.iae.univ-savoie.fr http://www.iae.univ-savoie.fr/images/Plan_d_acces_IAE_Savoie_Mont_Blanc_sit… Stef On Jul 25, 2013, at 10:09 AM, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > Hi, > > am I assuming right that the ESUG conference will be held at this address: > > 9 Rue de l'Arc en Ciel, > 74940 Annecy-le-Vieux, France > > Or is the exact location somewhere else? > > It is not mentioned on the ESUG conference site... > > Joachim > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 25, 2013

Exact venue of ESUG conference

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Hi, am I assuming right that the ESUG conference will be held at this address: 9 Rue de l'Arc en Ciel, 74940 Annecy-le-Vieux, France Or is the exact location somewhere else? It is not mentioned on the ESUG conference site... Joachim

July 25, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Frank Shearar

On 23 July 2013 13:14, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I hope we all agree now for MIT so I just changed Sport license on > SqueakSource to MIT, so that now on both SqueakSource and SmalltalkHub > Sport is MIT licensed: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/SPort.html > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Sport/Sport If I understand correctly, this might be a bit premature. I had to fill in a paper form declaring my agreement to the relicencing of Squeak, and I'm pretty sure Pharo had to do the same (because I had to fill in a similar form for Pharo). As I understand it, the Sport port folks need to compile a list of every contributor and get each contributor to formally agree to the relicencing. frank > Note than there is only one Sport for both Squeak and Pharo and probably > Cuis as well. > > Best regards > Janko > > Dne 18. 07. 2013 16:05, piše Stéphane Ducasse: >> thanks Janko :) >> >> >> On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> wrote: >> >>> Hi Stef, >>> >>> I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT >>> licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect >>> porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on >>> Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Janko >>> >>> Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse: >>>> Hi Sport contributors >>>> >>>> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a >>>> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because >>>> it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under >>>> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce >>>> if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his >>>> answer: >>>> >>>>> Steph, >>>>> >>>>> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in >>>>> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects >>>>> was written by different people. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. >>>>> >>>> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we >>>> can get a dual license LGPL/MIT. >>>> >>>> And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that >>>> a infinite minority >>>> of programmers understand or even know. >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Esug-list mailing list >>>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Janko Mivšek >>> Aida/Web >>> Smalltalk Web Application Server >>> http://www.aidaweb.si >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> > > -- > Janko Mivšek > Svetovalec za informatiko > Eranova d.o.o. > Ljubljana, Slovenija > www.eranova.si > tel: 01 514 22 55 > faks: 01 514 22 56 > gsm: 031 674 565 > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 23, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Janko Mivšek

Hi guys, I hope we all agree now for MIT so I just changed Sport license on SqueakSource to MIT, so that now on both SqueakSource and SmalltalkHub Sport is MIT licensed: http://www.squeaksource.com/SPort.html http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Sport/Sport Note than there is only one Sport for both Squeak and Pharo and probably Cuis as well. Best regards Janko Dne 18. 07. 2013 16:05, piše Stéphane Ducasse: > thanks Janko :) > > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> wrote: > >> Hi Stef, >> >> I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT >> licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect >> porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on >> Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed. >> >> Best regards >> Janko >> >> Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse: >>> Hi Sport contributors >>> >>> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a >>> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because >>> it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under >>> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce >>> if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his >>> answer: >>> >>>> Steph, >>>> >>>> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in >>>> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects >>>> was written by different people. >>>> >>>> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. >>>> >>> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we >>> can get a dual license LGPL/MIT. >>> >>> And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that >>> a infinite minority >>> of programmers understand or even know. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >>> >> >> -- >> Janko Mivšek >> Aida/Web >> Smalltalk Web Application Server >> http://www.aidaweb.si >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -- Janko Mivšek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

July 23, 2013

ESUG 2013 registration is open

by stephane ducasse

Hi guys Sorry for the delay, the registration for the 2013 ESUG conference is now open. Pay attention that the early bird registration is until 10 th of August. http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2013/Conference-Registration In addition this year, there will be no warranty for social event or goody for people registrering on site. Stef and the ESUG board

July 21, 2013

ESUG 2013 registration is open

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi guys Sorry for the delay, the registration for the 2013 ESUG conference is now open. Pay attention that the early bird registration is until 10 th of August. http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2013/Conference-Registration In addition this year, there will be no warranty for social event or goody for people registrering on site. Stef and the ESUG board

July 21, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Camp Smalltalk ESUG 2013

by Niall Ross

Dear Damien, > Camp Smalltalk is on 8 of September. Thanks for this confirmation of the web page; I was about to email to check it was definitely just the Sunday plus the conference, not the Saturday as well. I'll arrange my travel accordingly. Yours faithfully Niall Ross Damien Cassou wrote: >On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > > >>When and where is it? The conference site says the page is forbidden and I >>can't seem to log in... >> >> > > >the page is not created yet. Camp Smalltalk is on 8 of September. > >-- >Damien Cassou >http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > >"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >losing enthusiasm." >Winston Churchill > >_______________________________________________ >Esug-list mailing list >Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > >

July 20, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Dale K. Henrichs

July 20, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Bruce Badger

Dale, I think that would be fine too. One of the aims of Sport is to be the ubiquitous surrogate for missing standardisation between dialects, and MIT does appear to be a better licensee if the objective is ubiquity. I think I'm the only author of the GemStone port, but perhaps you know of others and perhaps you've added some bits too? :-) So if you are sure that you know all contributors to GemStone Sport then we can say that it will join the Pharo port under the MIT license. The agreed forum for Sport was c.l.s so we should announce any proposed license changes there too. Bruce On 20 July 2013 12:39, Dale K. Henrichs <dale.henrichs(a)gemtalksystems.com>wrote: > Bruce, > > How about MIT for the GemStone implementation? > > Dale > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Bruce Badger" <bwbadger(a)gmail.com> > *To: *"Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > *Cc: *"esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Members" <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> > *Sent: *Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:08:07 AM > *Subject: *Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses > > > Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I > would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport > rather than using a dual license. > > Bruce > > > On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Thanks you all. >> This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a >> good news. >> >> Stef >> >> On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall < >> philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse >> > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> Hi Sport contributors >> >> >> >> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a >> >> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is >> because it >> >> uses Sport and Sport is licensed under >> >> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked >> Bruce if >> >> Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his >> >> answer: >> >> >> >> Steph, >> >> >> >> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in >> >> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects >> was >> >> written by different people. >> >> >> >> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. >> >> >> >> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we >> can >> >> get a dual license LGPL/MIT. >> > >> > Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing. >> > >> > Cheers >> > Philippe >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Esug-list mailing list >> > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> > > > > -- > Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills > http://www.openskills.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.org/

July 20, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Dale K. Henrichs

July 20, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Bruce Badger

> why is there the sub-phrase “just that for the Pharo implementation”? To be clear On 20 July 2013 11:43, Georg Heeg <georg(a)heeg.de> wrote: > Bruce,**** > > ** ** > > You write: “everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just > that for the Pharo implementation of Sport”. This is the ESUG mailing list > where Smalltalk Users of all dialects are participating. Thus I ask why is > there the sub-phrase “just that for the Pharo implementation”? What is with > all the other implementations? E.g. VisualWorks where the copyright says: > “©Bruce Badger 2004, 2005, 2006. Licensed under the LGPL.”**** > > ** ** > > Georg**** > > ** ** > > Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812**** > > Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen**** > > Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712**** > > ** ** > > *Von:* Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] *Im Auftrag > von *Bruce Badger > *Gesendet:* Samstag, 20. Juli 2013 10:08 > *An:* Stéphane Ducasse > *Cc:* esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Members > *Betreff:* Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses**** > > ** ** > > Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I > would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport > rather than using a dual license.**** > > ** ** > > Bruce**** > > ** ** > > On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > **** > > Thanks you all. > This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a > good news. > > Stef**** > > > On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall < > philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi Sport contributors > >> > >> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a > >> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is > because it > >> uses Sport and Sport is licensed under > >> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked > Bruce if > >> Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his > >> answer: > >> > >> Steph, > >> > >> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in > >> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects > was > >> written by different people. > >> > >> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. > >> > >> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we > can > >> get a dual license LGPL/MIT. > > > > Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing. > > > > Cheers > > Philippe > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org**** > > > > **** > > ** ** > > -- > Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills > http://www.openskills.org/ **** > -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.org/

July 20, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses

by Georg Heeg

Bruce, You write: “everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport”. This is the ESUG mailing list where Smalltalk Users of all dialects are participating. Thus I ask why is there the sub-phrase “just that for the Pharo implementation”? What is with all the other implementations? E.g. VisualWorks where the copyright says: “©Bruce Badger 2004, 2005, 2006. Licensed under the LGPL.” Georg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 Von: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Bruce Badger Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juli 2013 10:08 An: Stéphane Ducasse Cc: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Members Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport rather than using a dual license. Bruce On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: Thanks you all. This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news. Stef On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse > <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Hi Sport contributors >> >> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a >> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it >> uses Sport and Sport is licensed under >> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if >> Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his >> answer: >> >> Steph, >> >> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in >> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was >> written by different people. >> >> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. >> >> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can >> get a dual license LGPL/MIT. > > Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing. > > Cheers > Philippe > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills http://www.openskills.org/

July 20, 2013