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Re: [Esug-list] *important*: science needs you - we need your feedback on current integration tools.

by Alexandre Bergel

Using Firefox has solved this problem Cheers, Alexandre On 29 Apr 2013, at 19:22, "Steven R. Baker" <steven(a)stevenrbaker.com> wrote: > This is something I'm *very* interested in, and just clicked through to fill it out. It wouldn't render properly, I'm using Safari. I was unable to even read the first question. > > If this is a known issue, please advise the work around. If it's not, I can provide screenshots or something for debugging. > > Thanks! > > -Steven > On Monday, 29 April, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> we got only 20 answers filled up and I cannot believe that you Smalltalkers do not integrate fixes when you work on multiple contributors, >> even Envy can be improved. Please consider spending 15 min to get information on your practices and problems. >> Please distribute this mail as you see it fit. >> >> Stef >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> We are conducting an academic research to improve tools for software integration. If you maintain a project with multiple contributors, we will greatly appreciate your participation. >>> >>> Your answers will be used for research purposes and to support the development of new tools. You can later access the results of this study, make free use of our tools to support the integration of changes, and maybe receive a gift. >>> >>> https://sondages.inria.fr/index.php/667625/lang-en >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Martin Dias, Nicolas Anquetil, Veronica Isabel Uquillas, Stéphane Ducasse and the RMOD Inria team >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

April 30, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] *important*: science needs you - we need your feedback on current integration tools.

by Sean P. DeNigris

Steven Baker wrote > It wouldn't render properly, I'm using Safari. Same problem. Renders okay in Chrome and Firefox. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/important-science-needs-you-we-need-your-feedback-on-… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 30, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] *important*: science needs you - we need your feedback on current integration tools.

by Steven R. Baker

This is something I'm *very* interested in, and just clicked through to fill it out. It wouldn't render properly, I'm using Safari. I was unable to even read the first question. If this is a known issue, please advise the work around. If it's not, I can provide screenshots or something for debugging. Thanks! -Steven On Monday, 29 April, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Hi guys > > we got only 20 answers filled up and I cannot believe that you Smalltalkers do not integrate fixes when you work on multiple contributors, > even Envy can be improved. Please consider spending 15 min to get information on your practices and problems. > Please distribute this mail as you see it fit. > > Stef > > > Hi all, > > > > We are conducting an academic research to improve tools for software integration. If you maintain a project with multiple contributors, we will greatly appreciate your participation. > > > > Your answers will be used for research purposes and to support the development of new tools. You can later access the results of this study, make free use of our tools to support the integration of changes, and maybe receive a gift. > > > > https://sondages.inria.fr/index.php/667625/lang-en > > > > Best regards, > > Martin Dias, Nicolas Anquetil, Veronica Isabel Uquillas, Stéphane Ducasse and the RMOD Inria team > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org (mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org) > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

April 30, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Igor Stasenko

On 29 April 2013 23:30, Matthias Springer <me(a)matthiasspringer.de> wrote: > Hi, > > I decided to write a proposal for both the Athens HTML5 Canvas project and > the Morphic for Amber project. The Athens project will be my primary > (favorite) project and in case it does not get accepted by Google hopefully > the Morphic project does. Does that make sense? Is there a way to > prioritize the Athens proposal? Everything comes at cost, if Athens will be selected, that will mean some other project will not. > Juan, would you like to be the primary mentor for the Morphic project? > > Either way, I plan to do the Morphic project now or after the GSoC (built > on top of Athens). What a spirit! :) > Thanks for your ideas and comments! > > > > Best regards, > Matthias > > -- > Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 > Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) > Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

April 30, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Matthias Springer

Hi, I decided to write a proposal for both the Athens HTML5 Canvas project and the Morphic for Amber project. The Athens project will be my primary (favorite) project and in case it does not get accepted by Google hopefully the Morphic project does. Does that make sense? Is there a way to prioritize the Athens proposal? Juan, would you like to be the primary mentor for the Morphic project? Either way, I plan to do the Morphic project now or after the GSoC (built on top of Athens). Thanks for your ideas and comments! Best regards, Matthias -- Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam

April 29, 2013

*important*: science needs you - we need your feedback on current integration tools.

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi guys we got only 20 answers filled up and I cannot believe that you Smalltalkers do not integrate fixes when you work on multiple contributors, even Envy can be improved. Please consider spending 15 min to get information on your practices and problems. Please distribute this mail as you see it fit. Stef > Hi all, > > We are conducting an academic research to improve tools for software integration. If you maintain a project with multiple contributors, we will greatly appreciate your participation. > > Your answers will be used for research purposes and to support the development of new tools. You can later access the results of this study, make free use of our tools to support the integration of changes, and maybe receive a gift. > > https://sondages.inria.fr/index.php/667625/lang-en > > Best regards, > Martin Dias, Nicolas Anquetil, Veronica Isabel Uquillas, Stéphane Ducasse and the RMOD Inria team

April 29, 2013

JUnit structure

by Joseph Pelrine

I'm really happy that SUnit isn't this ugly. http://java.dzone.com/articles/your-code-structured Cheers -- Joseph Pelrine [ | ] MetaProg GmbH Email: jpelrine(a)metaprog.com Web: http://www.metaprog.com As soon as you introduce people, things become complex.

April 29, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Integrated Chat System

by Nicolás Paez

thanks, I will take a look at it. Saludos! NicoPaez <http://nicopaez.wordpress.com/> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Nico, > > there is already an argentinian student who proposed a project to work on > a Jabber Client/Server. The project is here > http://gsoc2013.esug.org/projects#h-45 > But, this project does not have a mentor. Maybe you can join and both > projects merged? :) > > Guille > > > On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Nicolás Paez <nicopaez(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I have an idea for a project. Let my explain it: >> >> *Context / Business need* >> I teach OOP at the university with Pharo. Every week our students have to >> solve some assignments programming with Pharo. We would like to have an >> integrated chat system into Pharo in order to be able to assist our >> students when they are working on the assignments. >> >> *Vision* >> I imagine this chat to allow the exchange of text but it should also >> allow to send "a class or a category" so the teacher (or other student) can >> analyse/reproduce a situation/error. Even more, it could use fuel to >> serialize the error and share it. >> From the implementation point of view I image this like a client-server >> system. Each subject/institution could have its own server, then the >> students/teacher, open Pharo, start the chat client and connect to the >> selected server. >> >> >> *What do you think? * >> >> If there is a student interested in this I could be the mentor. >> >> Regards, >> >> Saludos! >> NicoPaez <http://nicopaez.wordpress.com/> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >

April 29, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Juan Vuletich (mail lists)

Quoting Matthias Springer <me(a)matthiasspringer.de>: > OK, I'm getting the feeling that it's probably best to implement a > proper HTML Canvas rendering engine (Athens) first and build a > Morphic(-like) framework (e.g. the morphs from Cuis) on top of that > afterwards. Having a good architecture is more important to me than > getting results as fast as possible. It doesn't really matter. Given that you are using HTML Canvas for drawing, the only thing you take from Athens or Morphic 3 is the api. And both are based on SVG, so they are essentially equivalent. As the rendering api is really close to the Canvas backend, it is rather easy to do. The interesting part of the project is to make a working Morphic world on top of that. > -- > Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 > Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) > Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam Cheers, Juan Vuletich

April 29, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Juan Vuletich (mail lists)

Quoting Matthias Springer <me(a)matthiasspringer.de>: > Hi Juan, > >> >> Morphic 3 is a reimplementation of Squeak Morphic with these >> fundamental changes: >> - Drawing is vector graphics (like HTML5 Canvas and SVG) >> - Each morph defines a local coordinate system >> - Coordinates are float, and not tied to Display coordinates >> - Code is simplified and easier to understand >> The new drawing engine will be published this year (MIT license). >> The rest of the work is in the Morphs themselves, and is done >> incrementally in the Cuis project. This means that the latest Cuis >> default and only GUI is always the most current state of this work. >> Right now, in Cuis, all morphs are specified in local float >> coordinates, and the Morphic code is much smaller and easier to >> understand that in other Squeak variants. > So Morphic3 is the rendering/drawing engine and Cuis provides the > morphs on top of Morphic3? The difference doesn't really matter, but I'd rather say that Morphic 3 is the morphs + rendering engine, and that the Morphic variant is Cuis is called Morphic 3. >> If I understand this correctly, this means not using Canvas for >> drawing graphics (like LivelyKernel and morphic.js do), but using >> the html rendering in the browser (more like Seaside, Iliad and and >> Aida). This approach has pros and cons, but to me, it essencially >> means it is not a real Morphic. A fundamental feature of Morphic is >> that the look and behavior of morphs is completely done in >> Smalltalk, and therefore, only limited by what the Display can >> show. This means not using any external widgets library (like html >> widgets, or qt, or native OS widgets, etc). In Morphic, it is >> possible to do stuff like the EnvelopeEditorMorph, and what you see >> in LivelyKernel and morphic.js. In html, we are limited to what the >> browsers provide. > I talked with several people about this and I think it is indeed > better and cleaner to use an HTML canvas for drawing. Putting divs > together with position:absolute - that's what I'm currently doing - > is really ugly. My plans for the next days are to experiment with > HTML canvas and try to shift all rendering to the canvas. Good. >> This means that you want the real Morphic power and flexibility. >> Then the strategy would be to start by making a Morphic World that >> can host the most basic morphs, maybe not unlike what morphic.js is >> doing, but in Smalltalk (Amber). If you follow this path, the next >> question is whether to use global coordinates (like Squeak, Pharo >> and other derivatives, except Cuis, and like morphic.js) or local >> coordinates (like LivelyKernel, Self and Cuis). > Sounds like a plan. My initial motivation was to get an existing > Pharo application running in Amber without changing too much code. > But I'd also be willing to change that application in order to get a > better Morphic implementation. > > I didn't think about coordinate systems yet. In my current > implementation the top, left corner of a window is always 0@0 > regardless of where the window is located. That's the idea of local > coordinates, right? The idea of local coordinates is to make them local to the owner. For instance, if you add a button at 10@20 pixels from the topLeft corner of the window, and you later move the window to some position, the position ivar of the button doesn't change: the button is still 10@20 pixels from the topLeft of the window. With global coordinates, when moving the window around you need to also adjust the position ivar of every submorph down the tree. Inspect and browse a bit Cuis and Squeak/Pharo to see the difference. >> If you consider doing a remote, web based canvas for Cuis / Morphic >> 3 servers, I would be delighted to be your mentor, as your work >> would be closely related to mine. Besides, I believe this would be >> the easiest way to enable fully Morphic webapps in Smalltalk. > In my opinion, one of the biggest advantages of Amber is that you > don't need any particular web server or backend. A web browser is > everything you need and the whole Smalltalk VM is running in the web > browser (it's also much easier to set up). I'm also wondering > whether remote rendering is fast enough. You need to talk to the > server on every event (mouse click, mouse move (this is really > expensive), keyboard, ...) and every primitive you render must be > sent to the client. It is fast enough, as hundreds of multiplayer web based javascript games show. In any case, it's your call. Turning Amber into a full Morphic environment is a great project too. >> If you do a SVG Morphic for Amber, similar to morphic.js, I could >> also help. This would mean that a longer term project would be >> needed to bring it to the point of real compatibility with Squeak / >> Pharo / Cuis. > This is more or less what I had in mind, probably by drawing morphs > onto an HTML canvas. Maybe we can share code between Cuis and Amber > for the actual morphs, once I have implemented the drawing/rendering > component. It should be sufficient to implement the Morphic3 > interface that is used by Cuis and I can render all Cuis morphs from > then on, right? Yes. You'll also need to grab mouse / keyboard events from the user and feed them to the morphs, but you already knew that. You also need to handle screen damage to be repaired on the next cycle. > Best regards, > Matthias > > -- > Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 > Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) > Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam Cheers, Juan Vuletich

April 29, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Matthias Springer

>> In my opinion, one of the biggest advantages of Amber is that you don't need >> any particular web server or backend. A web browser is everything you need >> and the whole Smalltalk VM is running in the web browser (it's also much >> easier to set up). I'm also wondering whether remote rendering is fast >> enough. You need to talk to the server on every event (mouse click, mouse >> move (this is really expensive), keyboard, ...) and every primitive you >> render must be sent to the client. > yes, and in that regard, http://gsoc2013.esug.org/projects/athens-html5-canvas > is way better alternative. > > OK, I'm getting the feeling that it's probably best to implement a proper HTML Canvas rendering engine (Athens) first and build a Morphic(-like) framework (e.g. the morphs from Cuis) on top of that afterwards. Having a good architecture is more important to me than getting results as fast as possible. -- Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam

April 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Igor Stasenko

On 28 April 2013 16:50, Matthias Springer <me(a)matthiasspringer.de> wrote: > Hi Juan, > > >> >> Morphic 3 is a reimplementation of Squeak Morphic with these fundamental >> changes: >> - Drawing is vector graphics (like HTML5 Canvas and SVG) >> - Each morph defines a local coordinate system >> - Coordinates are float, and not tied to Display coordinates >> - Code is simplified and easier to understand >> The new drawing engine will be published this year (MIT license). The rest >> of the work is in the Morphs themselves, and is done incrementally in the >> Cuis project. This means that the latest Cuis default and only GUI is always >> the most current state of this work. Right now, in Cuis, all morphs are >> specified in local float coordinates, and the Morphic code is much smaller >> and easier to understand that in other Squeak variants. > > So Morphic3 is the rendering/drawing engine and Cuis provides the morphs on > top of Morphic3? > > >> >> If I understand this correctly, this means not using Canvas for drawing >> graphics (like LivelyKernel and morphic.js do), but using the html rendering >> in the browser (more like Seaside, Iliad and and Aida). This approach has >> pros and cons, but to me, it essencially means it is not a real Morphic. A >> fundamental feature of Morphic is that the look and behavior of morphs is >> completely done in Smalltalk, and therefore, only limited by what the >> Display can show. This means not using any external widgets library (like >> html widgets, or qt, or native OS widgets, etc). In Morphic, it is possible >> to do stuff like the EnvelopeEditorMorph, and what you see in LivelyKernel >> and morphic.js. In html, we are limited to what the browsers provide. > > I talked with several people about this and I think it is indeed better and > cleaner to use an HTML canvas for drawing. Putting divs together with > position:absolute - that's what I'm currently doing - is really ugly. My > plans for the next days are to experiment with HTML canvas and try to shift > all rendering to the canvas. > >> >> This means that you want the real Morphic power and flexibility. Then the >> strategy would be to start by making a Morphic World that can host the most >> basic morphs, maybe not unlike what morphic.js is doing, but in Smalltalk >> (Amber). If you follow this path, the next question is whether to use global >> coordinates (like Squeak, Pharo and other derivatives, except Cuis, and like >> morphic.js) or local coordinates (like LivelyKernel, Self and Cuis). > > Sounds like a plan. My initial motivation was to get an existing Pharo > application running in Amber without changing too much code. But I'd also be > willing to change that application in order to get a better Morphic > implementation. > > I didn't think about coordinate systems yet. In my current implementation > the top, left corner of a window is always 0@0 regardless of where the > window is located. That's the idea of local coordinates, right? > > >> If you consider doing a remote, web based canvas for Cuis / Morphic 3 >> servers, I would be delighted to be your mentor, as your work would be >> closely related to mine. Besides, I believe this would be the easiest way to >> enable fully Morphic webapps in Smalltalk. > > In my opinion, one of the biggest advantages of Amber is that you don't need > any particular web server or backend. A web browser is everything you need > and the whole Smalltalk VM is running in the web browser (it's also much > easier to set up). I'm also wondering whether remote rendering is fast > enough. You need to talk to the server on every event (mouse click, mouse > move (this is really expensive), keyboard, ...) and every primitive you > render must be sent to the client. yes, and in that regard, http://gsoc2013.esug.org/projects/athens-html5-canvas is way better alternative. > >> >> If you do a SVG Morphic for Amber, similar to morphic.js, I could also >> help. This would mean that a longer term project would be needed to bring it >> to the point of real compatibility with Squeak / Pharo / Cuis. > > This is more or less what I had in mind, probably by drawing morphs onto an > HTML canvas. Maybe we can share code between Cuis and Amber for the actual > morphs, once I have implemented the drawing/rendering component. It should > be sufficient to implement the Morphic3 interface that is used by Cuis and I > can render all Cuis morphs from then on, right? > > Best regards, > Matthias > > > -- > Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 > Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) > Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

April 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Matthias Springer

Hi Juan, > > Morphic 3 is a reimplementation of Squeak Morphic with these > fundamental changes: > - Drawing is vector graphics (like HTML5 Canvas and SVG) > - Each morph defines a local coordinate system > - Coordinates are float, and not tied to Display coordinates > - Code is simplified and easier to understand > The new drawing engine will be published this year (MIT license). The > rest of the work is in the Morphs themselves, and is done > incrementally in the Cuis project. This means that the latest Cuis > default and only GUI is always the most current state of this work. > Right now, in Cuis, all morphs are specified in local float > coordinates, and the Morphic code is much smaller and easier to > understand that in other Squeak variants. So Morphic3 is the rendering/drawing engine and Cuis provides the morphs on top of Morphic3? > > If I understand this correctly, this means not using Canvas for > drawing graphics (like LivelyKernel and morphic.js do), but using the > html rendering in the browser (more like Seaside, Iliad and and Aida). > This approach has pros and cons, but to me, it essencially means it is > not a real Morphic. A fundamental feature of Morphic is that the look > and behavior of morphs is completely done in Smalltalk, and therefore, > only limited by what the Display can show. This means not using any > external widgets library (like html widgets, or qt, or native OS > widgets, etc). In Morphic, it is possible to do stuff like the > EnvelopeEditorMorph, and what you see in LivelyKernel and morphic.js. > In html, we are limited to what the browsers provide. I talked with several people about this and I think it is indeed better and cleaner to use an HTML canvas for drawing. Putting divs together with position:absolute - that's what I'm currently doing - is really ugly. My plans for the next days are to experiment with HTML canvas and try to shift all rendering to the canvas. > > This means that you want the real Morphic power and flexibility. Then > the strategy would be to start by making a Morphic World that can host > the most basic morphs, maybe not unlike what morphic.js is doing, but > in Smalltalk (Amber). If you follow this path, the next question is > whether to use global coordinates (like Squeak, Pharo and other > derivatives, except Cuis, and like morphic.js) or local coordinates > (like LivelyKernel, Self and Cuis). Sounds like a plan. My initial motivation was to get an existing Pharo application running in Amber without changing too much code. But I'd also be willing to change that application in order to get a better Morphic implementation. I didn't think about coordinate systems yet. In my current implementation the top, left corner of a window is always 0@0 regardless of where the window is located. That's the idea of local coordinates, right? > If you consider doing a remote, web based canvas for Cuis / Morphic 3 > servers, I would be delighted to be your mentor, as your work would be > closely related to mine. Besides, I believe this would be the easiest > way to enable fully Morphic webapps in Smalltalk. In my opinion, one of the biggest advantages of Amber is that you don't need any particular web server or backend. A web browser is everything you need and the whole Smalltalk VM is running in the web browser (it's also much easier to set up). I'm also wondering whether remote rendering is fast enough. You need to talk to the server on every event (mouse click, mouse move (this is really expensive), keyboard, ...) and every primitive you render must be sent to the client. > > If you do a SVG Morphic for Amber, similar to morphic.js, I could also > help. This would mean that a longer term project would be needed to > bring it to the point of real compatibility with Squeak / Pharo / Cuis. This is more or less what I had in mind, probably by drawing morphs onto an HTML canvas. Maybe we can share code between Cuis and Amber for the actual morphs, once I have implemented the drawing/rendering component. It should be sufficient to implement the Morphic3 interface that is used by Cuis and I can render all Cuis morphs from then on, right? Best regards, Matthias -- Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam

April 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Juan Vuletich (mail lists)

Hi Sean, Quoting "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com>: > Matthias Springer wrote >> Regardless of whether you would be willing to participate as a mentor, >> I'd like to know if this project is something you're interested in and >> what features are most important for you. > > This is a /fantastic/ proposal. I am extremely interested in having the > ability to write a non-standard Morphic UI and have it show up in a webpage > without any extra work. Please see my response to Matthias' original message. The possibility of writing non-standard Morphic UIs and running them in Amber would depend on the approach taken. I don't see it possible if doing it in html. Something closer to morphic.js and Lively Kernel would be needed. Besides, the best (and esiest) way to do what you want is what I suggest to Matthias: Use a Smalltalk Morphic server (better yet if it is Cuis / Morphic 3), and a remote Amber morphic canvas. Something like a Morphic specific VNC client done in Amber + Canvas. > In fact, that would be amazing! I'm also interested > in your idea for another important reason... Morphic is a mess!! What would > be great is if you focus on the required behavior without copying too much > of the implementation details. In this way, hopefully, we could backport > your clean implementation into Morphic and benefit from fresh eyes. I would > be happy to mentor as I'm more familiar with Morphic than I ever wanted to > be ;) But what would be /great/ is if you could hook up with Juan Vuletich > and pitch it to him. He did a rewrite of Morphic a while back and would be > an invaluable resource. Even if he can consult, it would be a huge help. I'd be really happy to help. To what extent I can do it depends on the chosen path. The closer Matthias goes to my preferred path, the more I can help :) > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/GSoC-Project-Proposal-Morphic-for-Amber-Looking-for-m… > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > Cheers, Juan Vuletich

April 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Juan Vuletich (mail lists)

Hi Matthias, My name is Juan Vuletich, and I lead the development of Cuis Smalltalk and Morphic 3. I am happy to see any and all initiatives and efforts to advance the Smalltalk world. Let's see how your project matches with what I'm doing. I'll sketch briefly my projects and their state. Cuis is a fork of Squeak (like Pharo, Etoys, Scratch, Tweak, OpenCobalt, OpenQwaq, and others). The main objective that sets Cuis apart from other Squeak variants, is to enable and ease evolution as the top priority. For this, the strategy is to simplify the code as much as possible, so it becomes easier to understand. Right now, in lines of code, Cuis is about 1/3 the size of Squeak or Pharo. Cuis MIT license, and freely available. It is a pretty mature and solid Smalltalk environment, used for several commercial and non-commercial projects. I started Cuis to make Morphic 3 possible: Morphic 3 is a reimplementation of Squeak Morphic with these fundamental changes: - Drawing is vector graphics (like HTML5 Canvas and SVG) - Each morph defines a local coordinate system - Coordinates are float, and not tied to Display coordinates - Code is simplified and easier to understand The new drawing engine will be published this year (MIT license). The rest of the work is in the Morphs themselves, and is done incrementally in the Cuis project. This means that the latest Cuis default and only GUI is always the most current state of this work. Right now, in Cuis, all morphs are specified in local float coordinates, and the Morphic code is much smaller and easier to understand that in other Squeak variants. I've been thinking for some time on doing something to enable Cuis powered web servers running Morphic applications that are rendered in the client web browser. This has indeed some overlap with what you want to do. I would be delighted if you could work on this. But this is not exactly what you are proposing, so I'll comment inline below (please continue reading): Quoting Matthias Springer <me(a)matthiasspringer.de>: > Hi Smalltalkers, > ... > Amber is a Smalltalk implementation running in a web browser. It is > written in JavaScript. Amber provides some basic Smalltalk classes > and methods. It is also possible to render HTML code in a > Seaside-like way. But in contrast to Seaside, Amber has the > advantage that the whole Smalltalk VM runs inside the browser. Code > written in Amber can be automatically filed out to the hard disk > (using a NodeJS server running in the background). Good. Amber looks like the perfect environment to do web-based Smalltalk stuff. > My proposal is to reimplement parts of the Morphic framework in > Amber. This would have several advantages. > > ...(abridged)... > > My vision is to provide a fully-featured Smalltalk programming > environment running in the browser that provides all features that > are offered by Squeak/Pharo (class browsers, Monticello, ...). > ...(abridged)... > > Here's some technical stuff about how my current implementation works. > - All morphs need to be rendered as HTML DOM elements. > - Morphs are rendered using "HTMLCanvas" and "Widget", both classes > are provided by Amber. > - Morphs are rendered inside a div container, submorphs can be added > by adding the submorph's div container to the owner's div container > and setting its position and so on. > - Not all HTML tags can be reused. For instance, the HTML text > box/text area does not support text with different text formats > (color, emphasis, ...). I had to reimplement text areas for editable > "TextMoprh"s with DOM manipulation. If I understand this correctly, this means not using Canvas for drawing graphics (like LivelyKernel and morphic.js do), but using the html rendering in the browser (more like Seaside, Iliad and and Aida). This approach has pros and cons, but to me, it essencially means it is not a real Morphic. A fundamental feature of Morphic is that the look and behavior of morphs is completely done in Smalltalk, and therefore, only limited by what the Display can show. This means not using any external widgets library (like html widgets, or qt, or native OS widgets, etc). In Morphic, it is possible to do stuff like the EnvelopeEditorMorph, and what you see in LivelyKernel and morphic.js. In html, we are limited to what the browsers provide. > > ...(abridged)... > > A proposal on how to get started and structure the project. > - 1st week: think about architecture (how to do the rendering, ...), > class structures (e.g. which Morph classes are needed) and choose > some existing Squeak/Pharo applications that use an > important/representative subset of Morphic. This means that you want the real Morphic power and flexibility. Then the strategy would be to start by making a Morphic World that can host the most basic morphs, maybe not unlike what morphic.js is doing, but in Smalltalk (Amber). If you follow this path, the next question is whether to use global coordinates (like Squeak, Pharo and other derivatives, except Cuis, and like morphic.js) or local coordinates (like LivelyKernel, Self and Cuis). Take a look at http://forum.world.st/How-to-code-to-move-a-morph-td3937438.html where some experiments with Amber and morphic.js are discussed. If you follow the gobal coordinates path, compatibility with Squeak and Pharo will be easier. If you follow the local coordinates path, compatibility with Cuis and Morphic 3 will be easier. If you consider doing a remote, web based canvas for Cuis / Morphic 3 servers, I would be delighted to be your mentor, as your work would be closely related to mine. Besides, I believe this would be the easiest way to enable fully Morphic webapps in Smalltalk. If you do a SVG Morphic for Amber, similar to morphic.js, I could also help. This would mean that a longer term project would be needed to bring it to the point of real compatibility with Squeak / Pharo / Cuis. If you do an html based implementation, compatibility with Squeak / Pharo would be limited. In this case I could help a bit, but as this would go closer to Seaside/Aida/Iliad than to Morphic, my help would be limited. I tried to be objective when comparing options, but let me say now that I think the Cuis / Morphic 3 way is the best, and that I want to convince you to follow it! > > ...(abridged)... > > I'm looking for a mentor for the GSoC 2013. Ideally, the mentor has > a good understanding of the Morphic framework and maybe even HTML, > JavaScript and CSS (but I'm already quite familiar with this). > > Best regards, > Matthias Springer > > -- > Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 > Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) > Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam > > > Cheers, Juan Vuletich

April 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Integrated Chat System

by Guillermo Polito

Nico, there is already an argentinian student who proposed a project to work on a Jabber Client/Server. The project is here http://gsoc2013.esug.org/projects#h-45 But, this project does not have a mentor. Maybe you can join and both projects merged? :) Guille On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Nicolás Paez <nicopaez(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have an idea for a project. Let my explain it: > > *Context / Business need* > I teach OOP at the university with Pharo. Every week our students have to > solve some assignments programming with Pharo. We would like to have an > integrated chat system into Pharo in order to be able to assist our > students when they are working on the assignments. > > *Vision* > I imagine this chat to allow the exchange of text but it should also allow > to send "a class or a category" so the teacher (or other student) can > analyse/reproduce a situation/error. Even more, it could use fuel to > serialize the error and share it. > From the implementation point of view I image this like a client-server > system. Each subject/institution could have its own server, then the > students/teacher, open Pharo, start the chat client and connect to the > selected server. > > > *What do you think? * > > If there is a student interested in this I could be the mentor. > > Regards, > > Saludos! > NicoPaez <http://nicopaez.wordpress.com/> > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

April 28, 2013

GSoC Project Proposal: Integrated Chat System

by Nicolás Paez

Hi everyone, I have an idea for a project. Let my explain it: *Context / Business need* I teach OOP at the university with Pharo. Every week our students have to solve some assignments programming with Pharo. We would like to have an integrated chat system into Pharo in order to be able to assist our students when they are working on the assignments. *Vision* I imagine this chat to allow the exchange of text but it should also allow to send "a class or a category" so the teacher (or other student) can analyse/reproduce a situation/error. Even more, it could use fuel to serialize the error and share it. >From the implementation point of view I image this like a client-server system. Each subject/institution could have its own server, then the students/teacher, open Pharo, start the chat client and connect to the selected server. *What do you think? * If there is a student interested in this I could be the mentor. Regards, Saludos! NicoPaez <http://nicopaez.wordpress.com/>

April 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Bert Freudenberg

On 2013-04-27, at 16:47, "Sean P. DeNigris" <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > Matthias Springer wrote >> Regardless of whether you would be willing to participate as a mentor, >> I'd like to know if this project is something you're interested in and >> what features are most important for you. Great proposal indeed! I see you mention Lively Kernel as "related". There is also Jens Mönig's Morphic implementation: http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/blog/?p=34 which is used in Snap (a Scratch variant): http://snap.berkeley.edu/snapsource/snap.html And big kudos to Sean for volunteering to mentor! - Bert - > This is a /fantastic/ proposal. I am extremely interested in having the > ability to write a non-standard Morphic UI and have it show up in a webpage > without any extra work. In fact, that would be amazing! I'm also interested > in your idea for another important reason... Morphic is a mess!! What would > be great is if you focus on the required behavior without copying too much > of the implementation details. In this way, hopefully, we could backport > your clean implementation into Morphic and benefit from fresh eyes. I would > be happy to mentor as I'm more familiar with Morphic than I ever wanted to > be ;) But what would be /great/ is if you could hook up with Juan Vuletich > and pitch it to him. He did a rewrite of Morphic a while back and would be > an invaluable resource. Even if he can consult, it would be a huge help. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > --

April 28, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Matthias Springer

Hi Sean, I'm happy to hear that! I also took a look at Juan Vuletich's Morphic3 Project (http://www.jvuletich.org/Morphic3/Morphic3-201006.html) I think he did not (re)implement Morphic yet but implemented algorithms for high-quality rendering (e.g. anti-aliasing) so far. But I'll ask him if he's interested in this project. Best regards, Matthias Am 27.04.2013 16:47, schrieb Sean P. DeNigris: > Matthias Springer wrote >> Regardless of whether you would be willing to participate as a mentor, >> I'd like to know if this project is something you're interested in and >> what features are most important for you. > This is a /fantastic/ proposal. I am extremely interested in having the > ability to write a non-standard Morphic UI and have it show up in a webpage > without any extra work. In fact, that would be amazing! I'm also interested > in your idea for another important reason... Morphic is a mess!! What would > be great is if you focus on the required behavior without copying too much > of the implementation details. In this way, hopefully, we could backport > your clean implementation into Morphic and benefit from fresh eyes. I would > be happy to mentor as I'm more familiar with Morphic than I ever wanted to > be ;) But what would be /great/ is if you could hook up with Juan Vuletich > and pitch it to him. He did a rewrite of Morphic a while back and would be > an invaluable resource. Even if he can consult, it would be a huge help. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/GSoC-Project-Proposal-Morphic-for-Amber-Looking-for-m… > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam

April 27, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Sean P. DeNigris

Matthias Springer wrote > Regardless of whether you would be willing to participate as a mentor, > I'd like to know if this project is something you're interested in and > what features are most important for you. This is a /fantastic/ proposal. I am extremely interested in having the ability to write a non-standard Morphic UI and have it show up in a webpage without any extra work. In fact, that would be amazing! I'm also interested in your idea for another important reason... Morphic is a mess!! What would be great is if you focus on the required behavior without copying too much of the implementation details. In this way, hopefully, we could backport your clean implementation into Morphic and benefit from fresh eyes. I would be happy to mentor as I'm more familiar with Morphic than I ever wanted to be ;) But what would be /great/ is if you could hook up with Juan Vuletich and pitch it to him. He did a rewrite of Morphic a while back and would be an invaluable resource. Even if he can consult, it would be a huge help. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/GSoC-Project-Proposal-Morphic-for-Amber-Looking-for-m… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 27, 2013

IWST 2013 Call for papers

by Alain Plantec

Dear smalltalkers, You will find below the CFP for the International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies 2013. Please disseminate through your own mailing lists. We also hope you will be able to submit some of your contributions. Best regards, Program Co-chairs Loïc Lagadec, Alain Plantec Lab-STICC/CNRS, Université de Bretagne Occidentale ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies 2013 September 10, 2013 Annecy, France ESUG 2013 joint event -- Important dates -- Submission deadline: June 15, 2013 Notification deadline: July 15, 2013 Workshop : September 10, 2013 All accepted papers will be published in ACM DL (ACM In-Cooperation to be confirmed). -- Goals and scopes -- The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk and to trigger discussions and exchanges of ideas. Participants are invited to submit research articles. We will not enforce any length restriction. However we expect papers of two kinds: Short position papers describing emerging ideas. Long research papers with deeper description of experiments and of research results. Topics We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related topics such as: • Aspect-oriented programming, • Design patterns, • Experience reports, • Frameworks, • Implementation, new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, • Interaction with other languages, • Meta-programming and Meta-modeling, • Tools Links home page: http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop Publication Both submissions and final papers must be prepared using the ACM SIGPLAN 10 point format. Templates for Word and LaTeX are available at http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigplan/authorInformation.htm. This site also contains links to useful informations on how to write effective submissions. Program chairs Loïc Lagadec and Alain Plantec (LabSticc CACS/CNRS, University of Brest, France)

April 27, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Janko Mivšek

Hi Matthias, Very good proposal indeed, specially combined with all proposed project over Spec - a declarative specification and builder for UI, both desktop and web. Also in Aida/Web we are looking for further enhancements on that field and if Morphic way of UI building happens to be the superior way, we will also adapt it. I therefore propose that you prepare a project proposal ASAP, following the template other projects are. Send it to me and I'll add it to our GSoC site. Other half of your proposal then put into a proposal page after you express an interest on your own project, being invited, etc. About mentorship, I can be a second mentor, dealing with all web stuff, while I don't know much about Morphic. But it seems you are quite knowledgeable of it already? Nico will certainly help too with Amber stuff. One recommendation: try to stay independent of any outside JS library as much as possible. For instance, you don't need jQuery nowadays for DOM and event management because recent browsers have quite decent support for that. Even that resulting code can be without jQuery a bit uglier, you are not dependent of jQuery fate. I know that from my own experience being trapped once into dependence to a Prototype, predecessor of jQuery, which is nowadays practically defunct... Best regards Janko Dne 26. 04. 2013 22:25, piše Matthias Springer: > Hi Smalltalkers, > > I'm a computer science student studying in Potsdam, Germany, in the 6th > semester (take a look at my profile on the ESUG GSoC website, > http://gsoc2013.esug.org/matthias-springer/biography) and want to > propose a GSoC project. I'm looking for a mentor. I know that it's > already late but I started working on this project just some weeks ago. > Regardless of whether you would be willing to participate as a mentor, > I'd like to know if this project is something you're interested in and > what features are most important for you. I'd like to hear about your > ideas. > > Amber is a Smalltalk implementation running in a web browser. It is > written in JavaScript. Amber provides some basic Smalltalk classes and > methods. It is also possible to render HTML code in a Seaside-like way. > But in contrast to Seaside, Amber has the advantage that the whole > Smalltalk VM runs inside the browser. Code written in Amber can be > automatically filed out to the hard disk (using a NodeJS server running > in the background). > > My proposal is to reimplement parts of the Morphic framework in Amber. > This would have several advantages. > - Existing Squeak/Pharo/... applications that use the Morphic framework > can be ported to Amber easily. > - GUI applications can be developed more easily. For complex GUI > applications running in a browser, people usually use JavaScript > libraries like ExtJS. But I think, when someone decides to use Amber, we > can assume that the this person is also fairly familiar with the Morphic > framework. This makes Amber even more interesting. Furthermore, more > people might decide to use Smalltalk. > - GUI applications can be written entirely in Smalltalk, without > JavaScript. > - We can easily provide advanced programming tools like multiple class > browser windows and OmniBrowser. > > My vision is to provide a fully-featured Smalltalk programming > environment running in the browser that provides all features that are > offered by Squeak/Pharo (class browsers, Monticello, ...). I think not > all of this can be done in the scope of a GSoC project but providing a > Morphic implementation would be the first step. Having multiple class > browsers and all the other components (inspect, debugger; this already > exists in Amber) in a seperate window (instead of tabs) would already be > great! > > I'm currently working on porting a very small part of the Morphic > framework to Amber, in order to get Dale Henrichs' tODE > (https://github.com/dalehenrich/tode) working in Amber. I already > implemented some basic Morph classes like "Morph", "SystemWindow", > "TextMorph" and "SimpleButtonMorph", but only very basic methods that > are needed by tODE (see > https://github.com/matthias-springer/tode-web-amber) > > Here's some technical stuff about how my current implementation works. > - All morphs need to be rendered as HTML DOM elements. > - Morphs are rendered using "HTMLCanvas" and "Widget", both classes are > provided by Amber. > - Morphs are rendered inside a div container, submorphs can be added by > adding the submorph's div container to the owner's div container and > setting its position and so on. > - Not all HTML tags can be reused. For instance, the HTML text box/text > area does not support text with different text formats (color, emphasis, > ...). I had to reimplement text areas for editable "TextMoprh"s with DOM > manipulation. > - I use JQuery and JQuery UI intensively for DOM manipulations and > events. JQuery is already integrated in Amber and can be used from > Smalltalk code (but I had to implement some additional helper functions). > > A proposal on how to get started and structure the project. > - 1st week: think about architecture (how to do the rendering, ...), > class structures (e.g. which Morph classes are needed) and choose some > existing Squeak/Pharo applications that use an important/representative > subset of Morphic. > - Next weeks: implement Morphic classes in order to get the Squeak/Pharo > applications running (start with an easy one). > - Half-time: basic Morphic functionality should be working. Begin > implementing more advanced Morphic classes for getting a class browser > running. We have to think about whether to port an existing class > browser or to reuse parts of the current Amber class browser (atm, I > don't know if it's even implemented in Smalltalk). When we decide to > port an existing class browser, we have to take into account that Amber > has a different way of manipulating and compiling classes (to JavaScript). > > Similar previous work: The Lively Kernel (http://www.lively-kernel.org/) > is an implementation of the Morphic framework in JavaScript (no > Smalltalk). I want to do this in Amber. > > I'm looking for a mentor for the GSoC 2013. Ideally, the mentor has a > good understanding of the Morphic framework and maybe even HTML, > JavaScript and CSS (but I'm already quite familiar with this). > > Best regards, > Matthias Springer -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

April 27, 2013

GSoC Project Proposal: Morphic for Amber, Looking for mentor

by Matthias Springer

Hi Smalltalkers, I'm a computer science student studying in Potsdam, Germany, in the 6th semester (take a look at my profile on the ESUG GSoC website, http://gsoc2013.esug.org/matthias-springer/biography) and want to propose a GSoC project. I'm looking for a mentor. I know that it's already late but I started working on this project just some weeks ago. Regardless of whether you would be willing to participate as a mentor, I'd like to know if this project is something you're interested in and what features are most important for you. I'd like to hear about your ideas. Amber is a Smalltalk implementation running in a web browser. It is written in JavaScript. Amber provides some basic Smalltalk classes and methods. It is also possible to render HTML code in a Seaside-like way. But in contrast to Seaside, Amber has the advantage that the whole Smalltalk VM runs inside the browser. Code written in Amber can be automatically filed out to the hard disk (using a NodeJS server running in the background). My proposal is to reimplement parts of the Morphic framework in Amber. This would have several advantages. - Existing Squeak/Pharo/... applications that use the Morphic framework can be ported to Amber easily. - GUI applications can be developed more easily. For complex GUI applications running in a browser, people usually use JavaScript libraries like ExtJS. But I think, when someone decides to use Amber, we can assume that the this person is also fairly familiar with the Morphic framework. This makes Amber even more interesting. Furthermore, more people might decide to use Smalltalk. - GUI applications can be written entirely in Smalltalk, without JavaScript. - We can easily provide advanced programming tools like multiple class browser windows and OmniBrowser. My vision is to provide a fully-featured Smalltalk programming environment running in the browser that provides all features that are offered by Squeak/Pharo (class browsers, Monticello, ...). I think not all of this can be done in the scope of a GSoC project but providing a Morphic implementation would be the first step. Having multiple class browsers and all the other components (inspect, debugger; this already exists in Amber) in a seperate window (instead of tabs) would already be great! I'm currently working on porting a very small part of the Morphic framework to Amber, in order to get Dale Henrichs' tODE (https://github.com/dalehenrich/tode) working in Amber. I already implemented some basic Morph classes like "Morph", "SystemWindow", "TextMorph" and "SimpleButtonMorph", but only very basic methods that are needed by tODE (see https://github.com/matthias-springer/tode-web-amber) Here's some technical stuff about how my current implementation works. - All morphs need to be rendered as HTML DOM elements. - Morphs are rendered using "HTMLCanvas" and "Widget", both classes are provided by Amber. - Morphs are rendered inside a div container, submorphs can be added by adding the submorph's div container to the owner's div container and setting its position and so on. - Not all HTML tags can be reused. For instance, the HTML text box/text area does not support text with different text formats (color, emphasis, ...). I had to reimplement text areas for editable "TextMoprh"s with DOM manipulation. - I use JQuery and JQuery UI intensively for DOM manipulations and events. JQuery is already integrated in Amber and can be used from Smalltalk code (but I had to implement some additional helper functions). A proposal on how to get started and structure the project. - 1st week: think about architecture (how to do the rendering, ...), class structures (e.g. which Morph classes are needed) and choose some existing Squeak/Pharo applications that use an important/representative subset of Morphic. - Next weeks: implement Morphic classes in order to get the Squeak/Pharo applications running (start with an easy one). - Half-time: basic Morphic functionality should be working. Begin implementing more advanced Morphic classes for getting a class browser running. We have to think about whether to port an existing class browser or to reuse parts of the current Amber class browser (atm, I don't know if it's even implemented in Smalltalk). When we decide to port an existing class browser, we have to take into account that Amber has a different way of manipulating and compiling classes (to JavaScript). Similar previous work: The Lively Kernel (http://www.lively-kernel.org/) is an implementation of the Morphic framework in JavaScript (no Smalltalk). I want to do this in Amber. I'm looking for a mentor for the GSoC 2013. Ideally, the mentor has a good understanding of the Morphic framework and maybe even HTML, JavaScript and CSS (but I'm already quite familiar with this). Best regards, Matthias Springer -- Matthias Springer * me(a)matthiasspringer.de * +49-1577-3814255 Student B.Sc. IT-Systems Engineering (Hasso-Plattner-Institut) Stahnsdorfer Straße 144c, 14482 Potsdam

April 26, 2013

Small(talk) opportunities

by DeNigris Sean

>From time to time, I lead small commercial Smalltalk projects, parts of which I'm able to delegate. If you're interested in more details / participating when these come up, email me and I'll keep you in mind. Cheers, Sean

April 26, 2013

Smalltalk Team

by mani kartha

Hi, We have a team of 8 smalltalkers with 8+ years experience in smalltalk. The areas of expertise include Visual works, Squeak, Seaside, Glorp,Store and also thorough with OOAD and have hands on experience in Agile methodologies. Do you think there are chances of getting smalltalk related work for the team (development,support or conversion)?, especially when we are not having any marketing team for ourselves. We are also ready to do man power supply of smalltalk resources but needs work permit outside India. Do you think it is better to search jobs individually or wait for projects as a team? Is it worth maintaining such a team? Can someone suggest some way to search smalltalk work for our team? If someone wants to know more about the team or what we can offer, please let me know Regards, Mani S Kartha maniskartha <At> gmail <dot> com

April 25, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2013 call for presentation

by Stéphane Ducasse

with corrected uppercased C for conferences :) 21st International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions Annecy, France from 9 to 13 September 2013 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/ This call includes: Developer Forum Smalltalk Technology Award International Workshop http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop Student Volunteer http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/StudentVolunteers Camp Smalltalk 8 September 2013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For the past 21 years, the European Smalltalk User Group (ESUG) has organised the International Smalltalk Conference, a lively forum on cutting edge software technologies that attract people from both academia and industry for a whole week. The attendees are both engineers using Smalltalk in business and students and teachers using Smalltalk both for research and didactic purposes. As every year, this year's edition of the largest European Smalltalk event will include the regular Smalltalk developers conference with renowned invited speakers, a Smalltalk camp that proves fruitful for interactions and discussions. This year will be held the 9th edition of the Innovation Technology Awards where prizes will be awarded to authors of best pieces of Smalltalk-related projects and an international workshop on Smalltalk and dynamic languages (http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop) You can support the ESUG conference in many different ways: * Sponsor the conference. New sponsoring packages are described at http://www.esug.org/supportesug/becomeasponsor/ * Submit a talk, a software or a paper to one of the events. See below. * Attend the conference. We'd like to beat the previous record of attendance (170 people at Amsterdam 2008)! * Students can get free registration and hosting if they enrol into the the Student Volunteers program. See below. Developers Forum: International Smalltalk Developers Conference ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are looking for YOUR experience on using Smalltalk. You will have 30 min for presentations and 45 min for hand-ons tutorial. The list of topics for the normal talks and tutorials includes, but is not limited to the following: * XP practices, Development tools, Experience reports * Model driven development, Web development, Team management * Meta-Modeling, Security, New libraries & frameworks * Educational material, Embedded systems and robotics * SOA and Web services, Interaction with other programming languages Teaching Pearls --------------- New this year!!! We want two news types of sessions in addition to default talk and show us your projects sessions. - Show your business 10 min session (Get prepared!!) - Teaching pearls : we want some session on how to teach some design aspects. We want your tip and tricks to teach Smalltalk or OOP. We expect to have several 10 to 15 min sessions aggregated. Open Forum: starting with Smalltalk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New this year!! The event will be held at IAE Savoie Mont-Blanc - University of Savoie. This is an opportunity for students and local professionals to discover Smalltalk. A room will be freely accessible and we would like to propose some talks and workshop for Smalltalk beginners. The list of topics includes, but is not limited to the following: - Why Smalltalk ? - Panorama of Smalltalk solutions - Getting started with Smalltalk - Success stories How to submit? -------------- Submissions due on 15st June 2013 Notification of acceptance will be on done on the fly. More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013 Pay attention: the places are limited so do not wait till the last minute to apply. Prospective presenters should submit a request to Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr AND USE THE following header [ESUG 2013 Developers]. Please follow the template below the email will be automatically processed! Subject: [ESUG 2013 Developers] + your name First Name: Last Name: Email where you can always be reached: Title: Type: Tutorial/Talk/Teaching Pearl/OpenForum Abstract: Bio: Any presentation not respecting this form will be discarded automatically International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop Smalltalk is considered as a design pearl and as a beacon in the realm of programming languages and programming environments. We are proud to invite submissions to the International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies which is held as part of the ESUG 2013 joint event. The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk. We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related topics such as - aspect-oriented programming, meta-programming, - frameworks, interaction with other languages, - implementation, - new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, tools, - meta-modeling, design patterns, experience reports Technology Award Competition ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The top 3 teams with the most innovative software will receive, respectively, 500 Euros, 300 Euros and 200 Euros during an awards ceremony at the conference. Developers of any Smalltalk-based software are welcome to compete. More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013/ Student Volunteer Program ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you are a student wanting to attend ESUG, have you considered being a student volunteer? Student volunteers help keep the conference running smoothly; in return, they have free accommodations, while still having most of the time to enjoy the conference. More information at http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/StudentVolunteers We hope to see you there and have fun together.

April 24, 2013

ESUG 2013 call for presentation

by Stéphane Ducasse

21st International Smalltalk Joint Conference - Call for Contributions Annecy, France from 9 to 13 September 2013 http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013/ This call includes: Developer Forum Smalltalk Technology Award International Workshop http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop Student Volunteer http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/StudentVolunteers Camp Smalltalk 8 September 2013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For the past 21 years, the European Smalltalk User Group (ESUG) has organised the International Smalltalk Conference, a lively forum on cutting edge software technologies that attract people from both academia and industry for a whole week. The attendees are both engineers using Smalltalk in business and students and teachers using Smalltalk both for research and didactic purposes. As every year, this year's edition of the largest European Smalltalk event will include the regular Smalltalk developers conference with renowned invited speakers, a Smalltalk camp that proves fruitful for interactions and discussions. This year will be held the 9th edition of the Innovation Technology Awards where prizes will be awarded to authors of best pieces of Smalltalk-related projects and an international workshop on Smalltalk and dynamic languages (http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop) You can support the ESUG conference in many different ways: * Sponsor the conference. New sponsoring packages are described at http://www.esug.org/supportesug/becomeasponsor/ * Submit a talk, a software or a paper to one of the events. See below. * Attend the conference. We'd like to beat the previous record of attendance (170 people at Amsterdam 2008)! * Students can get free registration and hosting if they enrol into the the Student Volunteers program. See below. Developers Forum: International Smalltalk Developers Conference ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We are looking for YOUR experience on using Smalltalk. You will have 30 min for presentations and 45 min for hand-ons tutorial. The list of topics for the normal talks and tutorials includes, but is not limited to the following: * XP practices, Development tools, Experience reports * Model driven development, Web development, Team management * Meta-Modeling, Security, New libraries & frameworks * Educational material, Embedded systems and robotics * SOA and Web services, Interaction with other programming languages Teaching Pearls --------------- New this year!!! We want two news types of sessions in addition to default talk and show us your projects sessions. - Show your business 10 min session (Get prepared!!) - Teaching pearls : we want some session on how to teach some design aspects. We want your tip and tricks to teach Smalltalk or OOP. We expect to have several 10 to 15 min sessions aggregated. Open Forum: starting with Smalltalk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ New this year!! The event will be held at IAE Savoie Mont-Blanc - University of Savoie. This is an opportunity for students and local professionals to discover Smalltalk. A room will be freely accessible and we would like to propose some talks and workshop for Smalltalk beginners. The list of topics includes, but is not limited to the following: - Why Smalltalk ? - Panorama of Smalltalk solutions - Getting started with Smalltalk - Success stories How to submit? -------------- Submissions due on 15st June 2013 Notification of acceptance will be on done on the fly. More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013 Pay attention: the places are limited so do not wait till the last minute to apply. Prospective presenters should submit a request to Stephane.Ducasse(a)inria.fr AND USE THE following header [ESUG 2013 Developers]. Please follow the template below the email will be automatically processed! Subject: [ESUG 2013 Developers] + your name First Name: Last Name: Email where you can always be reached: Title: Type: Tutorial/Talk/Teaching Pearl/OpenForum Abstract: Bio: Any presentation not respecting this form will be discarded automatically International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/InternationalWorkshop Smalltalk is considered as a design pearl and as a beacon in the realm of programming languages and programming environments. We are proud to invite submissions to the International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies which is held as part of the ESUG 2013 joint event. The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk. We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related topics such as - aspect-oriented programming, meta-programming, - frameworks, interaction with other languages, - implementation, - new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, tools, - meta-modeling, design patterns, experience reports Technology Award Competition ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The top 3 teams with the most innovative software will receive, respectively, 500 Euros, 300 Euros and 200 Euros during an awards ceremony at the conference. Developers of any Smalltalk-based software are welcome to compete. More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013/ Student Volunteer Program ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you are a student wanting to attend ESUG, have you considered being a student volunteer? Student volunteers help keep the conference running smoothly; in return, they have free accommodations, while still having most of the time to enjoy the conference. More information at http://www.esug.org/conferences/2013 http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2013/StudentVolunteers We hope to see you there and have fun together.

April 24, 2013

We need you for a survey on code integration

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi all, We are conducting an academic research to improve tools for software integration. If you maintain a project with multiple contributors, we will greatly appreciate your participation. Your answers will be used for research purposes and to support the development of new tools. You can later access the results of this study, make free use of our tools to support the integration of changes, and maybe receive a gift. https://sondages.inria.fr/index.php/667625/lang-en Best regards, Martin Dias, Nicolas Anquetil, Veronica Isabel Uquillas, Stéphane Ducasse and the RMOD Inria team

April 23, 2013

GSoC Mentoring Sign-ups

by Sean P. DeNigris

I saw that there were quite a few unfilled positions and others were signed up to mentor multiple projects, so I added myself to a handful of projects. I'm assuming it will probably not work to mentor all of them if they end up going forward. How is this handled? b.t.w. there are still spots open. Who's going to step up and help create the future of our community?! ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/GSoC-Mentoring-Sign-ups-tp4683016.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 22, 2013

Fwd: Senior Stk Dev

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi guys here are a job offer for Smalltalk at Zurich. > Pourriez-vous me suggérer une personne qui pourrait être disponible le 15 Mai 2013 au plus tard pour un tout journalier de 650 CHF. Nous octroyons des primes de cooptation (que vous reevez si la personne que vous avez cooptée commence le prpjet). > > Merci d’avance pour votre aide, > > Freundliche Grüsse / Kind Regards / Salutations distinguées > > Anyeko Armbruster > Recruitment Consultant > Human Capital AG - Bellariastrasse 7 - CH-8002 Zürich > Phone +41 43 344 30 54 - Fax +41 44 281 03 77 > anyeko.armbruster(a)humancapital.ch - www.humancapital.ch

April 20, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Need help for gsoc 2013

by Joachim Tuchel

Hi, please take a look at ESUG's call for students that janko posted to the esug mailing list just a few days ago. It should answer all your questions: http://forum.world.st/GSoC-Call-for-students-td4680922.html The central site to work with ESUG ths summer is: http://gsoc2013.esug.org HTH, Joachim Am 13.04.13 12:37, schrieb Rahul Gandhi: > hello i'm a student for gsoc 2013 and i'm looking for a mentor, could > anyone give me some directions what to do? > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

April 13, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Need help for gsoc 2013

by Sean P. DeNigris

Rahul Gandhi wrote > hello i'm a student for gsoc 2013 and i'm looking for a mentor, could > anyone give me some directions what to do? What project will you be working on? This list is a good resource and I can forward your project to the mentor list with maybe a short bio... ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Need-help-for-gsoc-2013-tp4681229p4681232.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 13, 2013

Need help for gsoc 2013

by Rahul Gandhi

hello i'm a student for gsoc 2013 and i'm looking for a mentor, could anyone give me some directions what to do?

April 13, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG GSOC @ Gent

by Carla F. Griggio

Hello Johan! In this blog post at the Google Open Source Program Blog you can see a review of all the projects of 2012: http://google-opensource.blogspot.fr/2013/02/some-small-talk-with-esug.html By the way, the event is in the official GSoC Calendar :) Cool! Cheers and thanks! Carla. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> wrote: > Hi Smalltalkers, > > Andy and I have been invited by a student association in Gent ( > http://zeus.ugent.be) to come and present the ESUG GSOC projects to > potential students. > They organise an information meeting around GSOC and we thus have the > opportunity to attract some students to Smalltalk projects. > > Andy and I are no mentors of any of the projects, so we will try to give > an overview of all projects that have been proposes. > > If anybody has some material they want to share with us, so we can present > your project, please send it to use. > > The meeting is next monday evening. > > cheers > Johan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

April 12, 2013

Registration Discount for STIC 2013 April 15-April 22

by James Robertson

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April 11, 2013

ESUG GSOC @ Gent

by Johan Brichau

Hi Smalltalkers, Andy and I have been invited by a student association in Gent (http://zeus.ugent.be) to come and present the ESUG GSOC projects to potential students. They organise an information meeting around GSOC and we thus have the opportunity to attract some students to Smalltalk projects. Andy and I are no mentors of any of the projects, so we will try to give an overview of all projects that have been proposes. If anybody has some material they want to share with us, so we can present your project, please send it to use. The meeting is next monday evening. cheers Johan

April 11, 2013

[GSoC] Call for students

by Janko Mivšek

Dear Students, Now it is your turn! You will have to register in our website first [1], put there some information, show interest for the projects and contact the project mentors. After the registration step you will get all the mentors information in order to contact them. By pressing the button on the project, you will show your interest. This is not something formal yet. Of course you can propose your own project too. In this case write a proposal in a format other projects have and send it to admins (see the email on the bottom). Our mentors will vote for the most interesting projects and in the middle of the voting Google will tell us, how many projects will actually be funded. Voting will happen in May, with final results expected at the end of May. At that time you will finally know if you are accepted or not. Of course, there can be many students interested per project. This means that interest for this project is high, but on the other side a chance that you will be chosen is lower. It is up to you to convince a mentor that you are the best! Note also that the Ideas page is deprecated. On ideas page just the project ideas were collected. Now, we are preparing the real projects. So, please from now on always refer to this link for the projects: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/projects So, your initial steps are: 1. Register on our special Smalltalk GSoC website (with your Google account!): http://gsoc2013.esug.org/admin?view=loginGoogle 2. Edit your profile to get some more contact information for mentors to let you know, 3. Fulfill your brief Biography page (see Biography tab on profile), 4. Go to Projects page, choose up to three projects and click there 'I'm interested' button, 5. Contact and discuss with project mentors about your interest. Subscribe also to a special mailing list [2] where we will help you with further steps. Deadline: as soon as possible, because the deadline to register on official GSoC website [3] is 3.May, which is, well, soon! But about that later... Finally, we will really appreciate if you can help us to distribute this call for students. One of our goals is to increase the Smalltalk community. Those who have access to universities can distribute this among the students. Distribute also our poster [4] in many languages, English one attached. [1] http://gsoc2013.esug.org [2] Students mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-gsoc-students [3] Official GSoC website http://www.google-melange.com [4] Poster in PDF and image format, in many languages http://gsoc2013.esug.org/poster Good luck! Janko & Serge --- GSoC Admin Team smalltalk.gsoc(a)gmail.com http://gsoc2013.esug.org

April 11, 2013

GSoC: Mentors please register on our website

by Janko Mivšek

Dear mentors, Our special website is ready for registration which is very simple this year through your Google account: http://gsoc2013.esug.org/admin?view=loginGoogle It will let you go through a simple registration process. No need for remembering password nor username. Please don't change your email address afterward. After registration please "claim" your projects by clicking Edit link on the gray visit card of your project. You should also improve description of your project by editing it. You'll also be able to see registered students and their biographies, when they will start to write them. You don't need to logout, also there is no session timeout on this site. Best regards Janko -- Janko Mivšek Smalltalk GSoC Admin Team http://gsoc2013.esug.org

April 9, 2013

SciSmalltalk - Solving Ordinary Differential Equations in Smalltalk Project for GSOC 2013

by Malintha Adikari

Hi, I am final year computer engineering undergraduate from University of Peradeniya. I am interested about this project "SciSmalltalk - Solving Ordinary Differential Equations in Smalltalk " and I read the brief description in the idea page.I have followed deeply Ordinary Equations in my engineering maths course and I am very interesting about maths. I would like to do this project as my GSOC 2013 project. Could you please give me more details of the project. Thanks & Regards, Malintha Adikari

April 9, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Good news !

by Tudor Girba

Congratulations! Doru On Apr 9, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Serge Stinckwich <serge.stinckwich(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > Our Organization Application for "ESUG (European Smalltalk User > Group)" in Google Summer of Code 2013 has been accepted ! > > Regards, > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://doesnotunderstand.org/ > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- www.tudorgirba.com "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it."

April 9, 2013

Good news !

by Serge Stinckwich

Dear all, Our Organization Application for "ESUG (European Smalltalk User Group)" in Google Summer of Code 2013 has been accepted ! Regards, -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 9, 2013

PhD Proposal

by Loïc Lagadec

Dear All, We are opening a PhD student position at Lab-STICC / ENSTA-Bretagne, France. The dead line is extremely short. (April, 11). The subject is "developping CAD tools for a new european space FPGA". The candidate must have a previous experience in smalltalk, as all the development is smalltalk based. Keywords: Smalltalk, legacy code, compilation, space reconfigurable units. Please consider forwarding this email to potentially interested students. Candidates are invited to contact me directly by email (CV included). Kind regards, Loïc Lagadec loic.lagadec(a)ensta-bretagne.fr Lab-STICC, UMR CNRS 6285 +33 298 348 908

April 8, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] esug.org down?

by Louis Andriese

Thanks for the quick replies. Some weird cash refresh issue on my side. Thanks for looking into it! kind regards, Louis -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/esug-org-down-tp4679392p4679400.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 3, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] esug.org down?

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 3, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Louis Andriese <landriese(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > esug.org is not working for me here in the Netherlands, because of to many > redirects. > Could someone take a look? > This should be fixed since last Friday morning. Maybe the browser has something cached? Marcus

April 3, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] esug.org down?

by Serge Stinckwich

It works for me from Bern. Regards, On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Louis Andriese <landriese(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > esug.org is not working for me here in the Netherlands, because of to many > redirects. > Could someone take a look? > > kind regards, > Louis > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/esug-org-down-tp4679392.html > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- Serge Stinckwich UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk http://doesnotunderstand.org/

April 3, 2013

esug.org down?

by Louis Andriese

Hi, esug.org is not working for me here in the Netherlands, because of to many redirects. Could someone take a look? kind regards, Louis -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/esug-org-down-tp4679392.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 3, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] Modern and Future Smalltalk

by Janko Mivšek

Hi Dennis, For the web you can look at my ESUG presentation: On the Web Frontiers with Smalltalk http://ftp.eranova.si/aida/mivsek-web-frontiers-esug11.pdf Here you can find current trends of Smalltalk on the web: HTML5, real-time web, client-side web apps, mobile, revival of MVC pattern, what are the challenges, how Smalltalkers are prepared for them, etc. Hope this helps a bit Janko Dne 01. 04. 2013 05:43, piše Dennis Schetinin: > Hello, > > I'm preparing a report for a small local conference on the "Internet > Technologies". I would like to present some current Smalltalk trends in > this area. First of all, I'm thinking of Pharo efforts in conjunction > web frameworks like Seaside, AIDA/Web, Illiad. Certainly I'll talk about > Amber and hopefully there'll be a special report on it. I'll mention > GemStone. What else should I talk about? > > Best regards, > Dennis Schetinin > -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

April 1, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] [squeak-dev] Modern and Future Smalltalk

by Reza Razavi

Hello Dennis, In terms of current Smalltalk trends related to Internet Technologies, may I suggest our on-going work on "service streaming environments" as exposed here (cf. page 359): http://www.aal-europe.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Proceedings_AAL_Forum_2… It's Smalltalk implementation has been subject to a publication entitled "Web Pontoon: a method for reflective web applications" and available at: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1942791&dl=ACM&coll=DL A related piece of work, which focuses on a framework for dynamic service orchestration in cyber-physical systems, may be found here: http://osl.cs.uiuc.edu/publications/conf/birthday/MechitovA12.html Which builds upon Smalltalk-mediated joint research as for example reported in: http://osl.cs.uiuc.edu/publications/aitami07.html http://osl.cs.uiuc.edu/publications/ios07.html More on this work may be found at: http://adaptiveobjectmodel.com/writings/ http://www.rezarazavi.com/about/cv/publications/ Best regards, Reza Razavi http://www.linkedin.com/in/razavi > On April 1, 2013 at 5:43 AM Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm preparing a report for a small local conference on the "Internet > Technologies". I would like to present some current Smalltalk trends > in this area. First of all, I'm thinking of Pharo efforts in > conjunction web frameworks like Seaside, AIDA/Web, Illiad. Certainly > I'll talk about Amber and hopefully there'll be a special report on > it. I'll mention GemStone. What else should I talk about? > > > -- > > Best regards, > > > Dennis Schetinin >

April 1, 2013

#pharoconf #mooseday on twitter

by Tudor Girba

Hi, If you want to tweet/follow what is going on at PharoConf and MooseDay, please use #pharoconf and #mooseday. Cheers, Doru -- www.tudorgirba.com "Beauty is where we see it."

April 1, 2013

Re: [Esug-list] [squeak-dev] Modern and Future Smalltalk

by Colin Putney

On 2013-03-31, at 8:44 PM, Dennis Schetinin <chaetal(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm preparing a report for a small local conference on the "Internet Technologies". I would like to present some current Smalltalk trends in this area. First of all, I'm thinking of Pharo efforts in conjunction web frameworks like Seaside, AIDA/Web, Illiad. Certainly I'll talk about Amber and hopefully there'll be a special report on it. I'll mention GemStone. What else should I talk about? You should talk about Cog! Especially the fact that it runs both Newspeak and Squeak-derived Smalltalk dialects. Colin

April 1, 2013