July 2012 - Esug-list - lists.esug.org

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2012 agenda

by Karsten Kusche

just to add: Even in Agenda View, no events are listed! -- Karsten Kusche - Dipl. Inf. - karsten(a)heeg.de Georg Heeg eK - Köthen Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Dortmund A 12812 Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 um 13:22 schrieb Damien Cassou: > Hi, > > can you see the ESUG 2012 agenda on > > www.esug.org/Conferences/2012/Conference-Schedule (http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2012/Conference-Schedule) > > ? Some people reports an empty agenda > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org (mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org) > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

July 5, 2012

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2012 agenda

by Joachim Tuchel (objektfabrik)

I can see it (Chrome on Win XP SP3) Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> hat am 5. Juli 2012 um 13:22 geschrieben: > Hi, > > can you see the ESUG 2012 agenda on > > www.esug.org/Conferences/2012/Conference-Schedule > > ? Some people reports an empty agenda > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 5, 2012

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2012 agenda

by Karsten Kusche

yep, empty here -- Karsten Kusche - Dipl. Inf. - karsten(a)heeg.de Georg Heeg eK - Köthen Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Dortmund A 12812 Am Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 um 13:22 schrieb Damien Cassou: > Hi, > > can you see the ESUG 2012 agenda on > > www.esug.org/Conferences/2012/Conference-Schedule (http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2012/Conference-Schedule) > > ? Some people reports an empty agenda > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them > popular by not having them." James Iry > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org (mailto:Esug-list@lists.esug.org) > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

July 5, 2012

ESUG 2012 agenda

by Damien Cassou

Hi, can you see the ESUG 2012 agenda on www.esug.org/Conferences/2012/Conference-Schedule ? Some people reports an empty agenda -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

July 5, 2012

Re: [Esug-list] Old Smalltalk Magazines on offer - cost of postage only

by David Pennington

Thank you - this has now been taken. David Pennington Totally Objects The Smalltalk Specialists On 5 Jul 2012, at 10:48, David Pennington wrote: > Hi everyone. Way back in the 1990s there were two publications floating around: > > Doug Shaker used to run 'The Smalltalk Store' and produced some nice hard copy magazines called 'The Smalltalk Gazette' > > I have three of these - Vol 2 Issue 1 and Volume 3 Issue 1 & 2. - May 1995, March 1996 and 'Summer' 1996 > > I have 8 copies of 'The Smalltalk Report' - as follows: > Feb. 1992 Vol.1 No.5 > Sep. 1994 Vol. 4 No. 1 > March - April 1995 Vol.4 No. 4 (Photocopy) > Feb. 1995 Vol. 4 No.5 > May 1995 Vol 4 No. 7 > July/August 1995 Vol.4 No. 9 > Feb. 1996 Vol. 5 No. 6 > March - April 1996 Vol. 5 No. 6 (i know this is a duplication in date but it is a different magazine). > > These have articles by the likes of Kent Beck, Alan Knight and Jay Almarode. > > These are available to the first one to request them: > > ***** However, together they weight 1.2 kilos so postage will be quite expensive and I must ask the taker to pay that. > UK £6.00, Europe, £9.00 and Rest of the world £17.00 (these are actual Royal Mail small packet charges). > > I would need paying by Paypal but if you don't have a Paypal account, you can still use their service to pay by credit card on a one off basis. > I would send you an invoice which makes it easier. > > Private e-mail to david@totallyobjects will secure. > > DavidESUG Mailing list <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> > David Pennington > Totally Objects > The Smalltalk Specialists > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

July 5, 2012

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

by Janko Mivšek

Hi guys, One concrete proposal: let the ESUG board write a short report after every meeting and decision like sponsoring some project. Like Squeak board is doing regularly: http://squeakboard.wordpress.com/. I'm pretty sure with such simple act most of suspicions expressed in this thread will vanish immediately. Best regards Janko On 05. 07. 2012 09:42, Marten Feldtmann wrote: > Stephane, > > I see here more and more over-reactions and I quite do not understand > these reactions. > > I can not believe, that posters here do not like the success of ESUG or > behave jealous in some way. > > But ideas/contributions like the ones Paolo (and others) posted here are > still valid and I am more than surprised, that people are angry about it. > > But you answered many questions and that is ok - and I've seen NO > posting here so far saying, that the ESUG members are doing their job > badly. ESUG has been done quite a good job in the past promoting > Smalltalk in various ways. > > Marten > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

July 5, 2012

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

by Janko Mivšek

On 05. 07. 2012 11:22, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 5 July 2012 10:35, Steven Kelly <stevek(a)metacase.com> wrote: > If there's a conflict, can someone tell me, what will be direct > personal benefit(s) for ESUG board members if they will decide to > sponsor Pharo? Because we are quite "opiniated" community it is clear what is a personal benefit in that case :) Money is not the only thing someone can benefit from... What counts is how evenly ESUG is spreading its sponsorship around Smalltalk projects. Because if ESUG sponsor Pharo, it can and it is already sponsoring others too. So, is there one who asked for ESUG sponsorship and was denied? Let me ask directly (I'm a direct man, as those who know me, know very well :) Is Squeak community asked for ESUG sponsorship recently? Best regards Janko -- Janko Mivšek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

July 5, 2012

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

by Michael Haupt

Hi, in response to Damien's original question: On 4 July 2012 17:01, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What do you think? Having learned about the processes involved, about the board's policies for handling conflicts of interest, and its composition, I'm fine with it. I have to add that the amount of negative emotion triggered by the question I asked for purely informational reasons has put me off a bit. That was completely uncalled-for. "The wolfs are back" - seriously, what is that supposed to mean? I understand the emotional attachment of people to the work they do, but none of what I asked was intended to start this. Personally I'd like to see GST, VW, GemStone ... "people" on the board some time. It would make ESUG's broad intentions more obvious. I'd also love to be able to contribute more directly myself, which I can't at this time. Best, Michael

July 5, 2012

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

by Damien Cassou

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michael Haupt <mhaupt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > feel free to use as much of the text below as you like. thank you very much Michael, I appreciate a lot. We will discuss your text on the board mailing list and I will update the website. Thank you again. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry

July 5, 2012

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

by Michael Haupt

Hi Damien, On 5 July 2012 10:40, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You are right, we should improve our communication and probably have a > dedicated web page, let me add that to my todo list :-). feel free to use as much of the text below as you like. ----- Number of Seats and Terms The ESUG Board has, in theory, an unlimited number of seats. More helping hands are always welcome. Board members' terms are also unlimited; in general, they step down as they see fit. Eligibility and Nomination Each community member - that is, every Smalltalker - is eligible for ESUG Board membership if they are willing to devote a certain amount of time to community matters (reviewing funding proposals, taking care of web pages and servers, managing finances and conferences, etc.). Board members are self-nominated: who intends to join the board should send an e-mail to the board (board(a)esug.org [??]) and/or the ESUG members list (esug-list(a)lists.esug.org) introducing themselves. Election Board members are elected directly by the gathered community in a plenary session at an ESUG conference. ----- Best, Michael

July 5, 2012