September 2011 - Esug-list

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Nick Ager

A little more information I've found: http://markmail.org/message/uro3jtoitlmq6x7t On 11 September 2011 00:13, James Ladd <james_ladd(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > we should petition them to support Smalltalk not a new language. > > > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 14:42:56 -0500 > > From: agarcia(a)tdexa.com > > CC: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk? > > > > > Interesting comment. > > > > I was extrapolating from the idea that SUN's support for java is what > > made it successful > > despite it was obsolete from the beginning. > > > > Also what Microsoft did with C# > > > > So a Smalltalk like language with the support from Google would be nice > > and with lots of potential to become a commercial success... > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Philippe Marschall > > <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > 2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: > > >> oh please... please God > > >> an Smalltalk like language > > >> with the corporate sponsorship > > >> of a gigant like Google... > > >> > > >> Would be amazing > > > > > > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and > > > expecting different results. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Philippe > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

Sept. 13, 2011

Smalltalk Stammtisch Zürich: Tuesday, September 27, 2011

by Lukas Renggli

Dear Smalltalkers, After the last successful meeting in February, we plan to do another Smalltalk Stammtisch (beer drinking event) at the same location: - Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 18:00 - Steinfels Zürich, http://www.steinfels-zuerich.ch/ - http://g.co/maps/8zd59 Please let us know if you plan to attend so that we can book a table. Lukas and Philippe

Sept. 12, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by James Ladd

we should petition them to support Smalltalk not a new language. > Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 14:42:56 -0500 > From: agarcia(a)tdexa.com > CC: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk? > > Interesting comment. > > I was extrapolating from the idea that SUN's support for java is what > made it successful > despite it was obsolete from the beginning. > > Also what Microsoft did with C# > > So a Smalltalk like language with the support from Google would be nice > and with lots of potential to become a commercial success... > > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Philippe Marschall > <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > 2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: > >> oh please... please God > >> an Smalltalk like language > >> with the corporate sponsorship > >> of a gigant like Google... > >> > >> Would be amazing > > > > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and > > expecting different results. > > > > Cheers > > Philippe > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 10, 2011

Looking for a young engineer

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi We are looking for a young engineer to work around Moose and Java integration. - 1 year + 1 year Keywords: Smalltalk, Java, C#, Software analysis, software metrics, Software evolution, Visualization Job Description: The engineer will work on the following task - scaling verveineJ (a Java extractor) based on JDT/Eclipse - bridging Java tools (Coverage, Metrics tools) with Moose - Working on other extractors - Presenting Moose to other engineers within INRIA Constraints: you have to get your master at max two years ago. Location: INRIA Lille Nord Europe One hour Paris/ 30 from Bruxelles Team: RMOD :) http://rmod.lille.inria.fr Salary: 2 495,16 euros brut / mois (but the state already took 30% of the real salary) so brutto means that you may have to pay less than a month salary as taxes.

Sept. 10, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Alejandro Garcia

Interesting comment. I was extrapolating from the idea that SUN's support for java is what made it successful despite it was obsolete from the beginning. Also what Microsoft did with C# So a Smalltalk like language with the support from Google would be nice and with lots of potential to become a commercial success... On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: >> oh please... please God >> an Smalltalk like language >> with the corporate sponsorship >> of a gigant like Google... >> >> Would be amazing > > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and > expecting different results. > > Cheers > Philippe >

Sept. 9, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Philippe Marschall

2011/9/9 Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com>: > oh please... please God > an Smalltalk like language > with the corporate sponsorship > of a gigant like Google... > > Would be amazing The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Cheers Philippe

Sept. 9, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Davorin Rusevljan

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Alejandro Garcia <agarcia(a)tdexa.com> wrote: > oh please... please God > an Smalltalk like language > with the corporate sponsorship > of a gigant like Google... > > Would be amazing well, I guess waiting a bit for the real presentation would be a good idea. Dart's connection to Smalltalk is currently just an extrapolation. Not that I would have anything against if it turns true, but currently there are very few facts supporting it. Davorin Rusevljan http://www.cloud208.com/

Sept. 9, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Alejandro Garcia

oh please... please God an Smalltalk like language with the corporate sponsorship of a gigant like Google... Would be amazing On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 12:52 AM, Geert Claes <geert.wl.claes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just read this interesting post: http:// http://t.co/oDH20MA > http://t.co/oDH20MA > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Will-Google-s-Dart-be-the-next-Smalltalk-tp3800855p38… > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Sept. 9, 2011

Will Google's Dart be the next Smalltalk?

by Geert Claes

Just read this interesting post: http:// http://t.co/oDH20MA http://t.co/oDH20MA -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Will-Google-s-Dart-be-the-next-Smalltalk-tp3800855p38… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 9, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Help Define the Future of Smalltalk

by James Ladd

Please tell the survey you want Smalltalk on the JVM ;) From: mike_taylor(a)instantiations.com Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 07:17:24 -0700 To: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Subject: [Esug-list] Help Define the Future of Smalltalk Dear Smalltalk User, Instantiations is committed to the long-term evolution and support of Smalltalk...especially VA Smalltalk (VAST)! We would like your input to help us better focus on your needs as we move VAST forward. The survey linked below will take about 5-8 minutes and will give us valuable information with which to make our future Smalltalk plans. Individual responses will be kept confidential and anonymous. Thank you in advance for participating in our survey! Your feedback is very important to us. The VA Smalltalk Team Click link to take survey: http://www.zoomerang.com/Survey/WEB22D2253NBKW/ _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 7, 2011