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Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] SmallHarbour project

by Davorin Rusevljan

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Actually we have several visions (nothing is final here, ideas welcome) .. Having Amazon ec2 image is also a very good idea, and some Smalltalkers have already made first important steps like: http://www.nickager.com/blog/Create-a-free-Gemstone-server-in-the-cloud-in-… You probably already have enough on your plate, but I mentioned CloudFoundry for following reasons: - it has a promise that one would be able to deploy SmallHarbour to different cloud providers - CloudFoundry currently provides support for Java, Ruby and Javascript, adding Smalltalk would be nice for visibility, and could be used for other Smalltalk services not only SmallHarbour. As I said you probably have enough to do in the first place, but if you just happen to have some student lurking that has some ruby knowledge to hack the interface for Smalltalk to Cloudfoundry it would be very nice to have :) As for your other goals - great! Davorin Rusevljan http://www.cloud208.com/

May 17, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] SmallHarbour project

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Laurent. You should take a look to GLASS applicance. It is similar to what you want. You can take ideas from there. BTW, cool project and congrats! mariano On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 9:19 PM, laurent laffont <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Davorin Rusevljan < > davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Interesting! >> >> Have you maybe considered to base it on the cloud foundry? >> > > Actually we have several visions (nothing is final here, ideas welcome) > > 1/ SmallHarbour platform is meant to be a base for YOUR own hosting > platform, like your own seaside hosting. So whether you put it on the cloud > or on a real server should be a preference. > > Actually we don't have any experience with cloud, so help will be > appreciated. > > We plan to have a virtual appliance based on virtual box / vmware /.... for > an easy setup. Amazon VMI image should be a good idea too (we have to > learn). > > For example: > a / I work in an enterprise, I want to easily deploy Smalltalk web > applications / tools on intranet for my co-workers and I don't want to spend > time on setting up servers, apache, ...... So I could just get the > appliance, start it and I'm ready to deploy several images. > > b / I want to set up a unique VPS (or cloud platform) to deploy several > Smalltalk web apps / sites. I could just put my preferred Linux distro, then > > apt-get install smallharbour / pacman -s smallharbour / .... > > /etc/rc.d/smallharbour start > > and let's go ! > > > 2/ SmallHarbour hosting service which be like SeasideHosting, but for > commercial purposes. So you should create an account, pay a monthly / yearly > fee related to the service you want, then either > > a/ upload your own image (like you do for SeasideHosting) if you're a power > user > > b/ one-click deploy of pre-made image if you just want to setup a CMS, > blog, write a new book, event planing, ... Pre-made images should be updated > easily. > > > 3/ People who need scalability, performance, deep customization don't need > SmallHarbour :) > > > Laurent > > Davorin Rusevljan >> http://www.cloud208.com/ >> >> On May 17, 2011 6:26 PM, "laurent laffont" <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Bernat Romagosa < >> tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Just a ... >> >> Yes, that's why we haven't called it SeasideSomething. >> >> We want the project to be open and support several web frameworks. We will >> start with Seaside though. >> >> Laurent. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > 2011/5/17 Romain Verduci <contact(a)romain-verduci.com> >> >> >> >> We actually have www.seasideho... >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 17, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] SmallHarbour project

by laurent laffont

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Davorin Rusevljan < davorin.rusevljan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Interesting! > > Have you maybe considered to base it on the cloud foundry? > Actually we have several visions (nothing is final here, ideas welcome) 1/ SmallHarbour platform is meant to be a base for YOUR own hosting platform, like your own seaside hosting. So whether you put it on the cloud or on a real server should be a preference. Actually we don't have any experience with cloud, so help will be appreciated. We plan to have a virtual appliance based on virtual box / vmware /.... for an easy setup. Amazon VMI image should be a good idea too (we have to learn). For example: a / I work in an enterprise, I want to easily deploy Smalltalk web applications / tools on intranet for my co-workers and I don't want to spend time on setting up servers, apache, ...... So I could just get the appliance, start it and I'm ready to deploy several images. b / I want to set up a unique VPS (or cloud platform) to deploy several Smalltalk web apps / sites. I could just put my preferred Linux distro, then apt-get install smallharbour / pacman -s smallharbour / .... /etc/rc.d/smallharbour start and let's go ! 2/ SmallHarbour hosting service which be like SeasideHosting, but for commercial purposes. So you should create an account, pay a monthly / yearly fee related to the service you want, then either a/ upload your own image (like you do for SeasideHosting) if you're a power user b/ one-click deploy of pre-made image if you just want to setup a CMS, blog, write a new book, event planing, ... Pre-made images should be updated easily. 3/ People who need scalability, performance, deep customization don't need SmallHarbour :) Laurent Davorin Rusevljan > http://www.cloud208.com/ > > On May 17, 2011 6:26 PM, "laurent laffont" <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Bernat Romagosa < > tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Just a ... > > Yes, that's why we haven't called it SeasideSomething. > > We want the project to be open and support several web frameworks. We will > start with Seaside though. > > Laurent. > > > > > > > > > > 2011/5/17 Romain Verduci <contact(a)romain-verduci.com> > >> > >> We actually have www.seasideho... > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

May 17, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] SmallHarbour project

by Davorin Rusevljan

Interesting! Have you maybe considered to base it on the cloud foundry? Davorin Rusevljan http://www.cloud208.com/ On May 17, 2011 6:26 PM, "laurent laffont" <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Bernat Romagosa < tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Just a ... Yes, that's why we haven't called it SeasideSomething. We want the project to be open and support several web frameworks. We will start with Seaside though. Laurent. > > > 2011/5/17 Romain Verduci <contact(a)romain-verduci.com> >> >> We actually have www.seasideho... _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

May 17, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] SmallHarbour project

by laurent laffont

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Bernat Romagosa < tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Just a short question, will there be support for other frameworks besides > seaside? > Yes, that's why we haven't called it SeasideSomething. We want the project to be open and support several web frameworks. We will start with Seaside though. Laurent. > > 2011/5/17 Romain Verduci <contact(a)romain-verduci.com> > >> We actually have www.seasidehosting.st which can only be used for >> non-commercial applications. >> >> I am Romain Verduci, a french student in Information System (Master >> degree) who likes smalltalk since I have discovered it last year through >> Pharo. >> Today, I participate to weekly coding-dojos with other smalltalk fans ( >> http://cara74.seasidehosting.st/) >> I am lucky to participate to ESUG SummerTalk this year with Laurent >> Laffont as mentor to develop SmallHarbour project. >> >> With the support of ESUG and under the ESUG SummerTalk 2011, we want to >> provide: >> - a simple platform to host commercial smalltalk web applications. >> - an easy way for everyone (and enterprise) to deploy their own hosting >> platform. >> - for the non-smalltalkers, provide ready Pier images to deploy basic >> blogs, event presentations and more. >> >> SmallHarbour has started from the actual Seaside Hosting code base. Our >> first objective is to port it to Pharo / Cog / Seaside 3 and document. >> >> For more informations about the project, you can follow us on >> www.smallharbour.org. >> >> If you have any needs or ideas in order to improve our project vision, we >> will be happy to collect them. We will setup community tools (issue tracker, >> public repositories, doc ....) when the exams period is over :) >> >> Best regards >> >> >> >> Romain Verduci >> Student in Information System (Master degree) - IMUS, IAE Savoie >> Mont-Blanc - Annecy >> >> Tel. : +33659892353 >> Mail : contact(a)romain-verduci.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

May 17, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [Moose-dev] [ANN] Moose Suite 4.4

by Johan Fabry

Excellent! Does it have a ConfigurationOf so that it can be loaded from source? Alternatively, putting just the image online might be a good idea (in addition to the one-click). On 16 May 2011, at 17:23, Tudor Girba wrote: > We are happy to announce the Moose Suite version 4.4: > http://moosetechnology.org/download > > What is new: > • New EyeSee engine for scripting visual charts > • New Kumpel importer for SVN repositories > • New Metanool engine for supporting dynamic annotations of models > • Simplified look and feel > • Improved VerveineJ compatibility for Java parsing > • Improved FAMIX support for Java systems > • Improved support for complex shapes in Mondrian > • Improved RPackage engine support for the Smalltalk importer > > A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: > http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… > > Have fun, > The Moose Team > http://moosetechnology.org > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > Moose-dev(a)iam.unibe.ch > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

May 17, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [ANN] SmallHarbour project

by Bernat Romagosa

Just a short question, will there be support for other frameworks besides seaside? 2011/5/17 Romain Verduci <contact(a)romain-verduci.com> > We actually have www.seasidehosting.st which can only be used for > non-commercial applications. > > I am Romain Verduci, a french student in Information System (Master degree) > who likes smalltalk since I have discovered it last year through Pharo. > Today, I participate to weekly coding-dojos with other smalltalk fans ( > http://cara74.seasidehosting.st/) > I am lucky to participate to ESUG SummerTalk this year with Laurent Laffont > as mentor to develop SmallHarbour project. > > With the support of ESUG and under the ESUG SummerTalk 2011, we want to > provide: > - a simple platform to host commercial smalltalk web applications. > - an easy way for everyone (and enterprise) to deploy their own hosting > platform. > - for the non-smalltalkers, provide ready Pier images to deploy basic > blogs, event presentations and more. > > SmallHarbour has started from the actual Seaside Hosting code base. Our > first objective is to port it to Pharo / Cog / Seaside 3 and document. > > For more informations about the project, you can follow us on > www.smallharbour.org. > > If you have any needs or ideas in order to improve our project vision, we > will be happy to collect them. We will setup community tools (issue tracker, > public repositories, doc ....) when the exams period is over :) > > Best regards > > > > Romain Verduci > Student in Information System (Master degree) - IMUS, IAE Savoie Mont-Blanc > - Annecy > > Tel. : +33659892353 > Mail : contact(a)romain-verduci.com > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

May 17, 2011

[ANN] SmallHarbour project

by Romain Verduci

We actually have www.seasidehosting.st which can only be used for non-commercial applications. I am Romain Verduci, a french student in Information System (Master degree) who likes smalltalk since I have discovered it last year through Pharo. Today, I participate to weekly coding-dojos with other smalltalk fans (http://cara74.seasidehosting.st/) I am lucky to participate to ESUG SummerTalk this year with Laurent Laffont as mentor to develop SmallHarbour project. With the support of ESUG and under the ESUG SummerTalk 2011, we want to provide: - a simple platform to host commercial smalltalk web applications. - an easy way for everyone (and enterprise) to deploy their own hosting platform. - for the non-smalltalkers, provide ready Pier images to deploy basic blogs, event presentations and more. SmallHarbour has started from the actual Seaside Hosting code base. Our first objective is to port it to Pharo / Cog / Seaside 3 and document. For more informations about the project, you can follow us on www.smallharbour.org. If you have any needs or ideas in order to improve our project vision, we will be happy to collect them. We will setup community tools (issue tracker, public repositories, doc ....) when the exams period is over :) Best regards Romain Verduci Student in Information System (Master degree) - IMUS, IAE Savoie Mont-Blanc - Annecy Tel. : +33659892353 Mail : contact(a)romain-verduci.com

May 17, 2011

[ANN] Moose Suite 4.4

by Tudor Girba

We are happy to announce the Moose Suite version 4.4: http://moosetechnology.org/download What is new: • New EyeSee engine for scripting visual charts • New Kumpel importer for SVN repositories • New Metanool engine for supporting dynamic annotations of models • Simplified look and feel • Improved VerveineJ compatibility for Java parsing • Improved FAMIX support for Java systems • Improved support for complex shapes in Mondrian • Improved RPackage engine support for the Smalltalk importer A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… Have fun, The Moose Team http://moosetechnology.org

May 16, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] moose = smalltalk ambassador

by Tudor Girba

Hi Nial, On 11 May 2011, at 11:13, Niall Ross wrote: > Dear Tudor, > this is great; this kind of making the outside world aware of Smalltalk is just what we need. :) > Jazoon (http://jazoon.com) is before ESUG 2011 in Edinburgh. I hope you will take the opportunity while there to advertise us. I will try. Cheers, Doru > You can download the conference poster (high-resolution jpeg or pdf) from > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7726739/ESUG_Promo.jpg > or > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7726739/ESUG_Promo.pdf > and the conference flyers from > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7726739/ESUG_Postcard.pdf > and the website is > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2011 > > I look forward to seeing the latest state of moose in Edinburgh. > Wishing you luck with your conferences > Niall Ross > > Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Moose (http://moosetechnology.org) is a Smalltalk ambassador. Actually, I think it's the best ambassador we have right now to persuade professional developers to look into Smalltalk. >> >> Let me tell you why. >> >> Moose is a platform for software and data analysis and includes components like: Glamour, Mondrian or PetitParser. Moose solves a real and important problem that developers (both Smalltalkers and non-Smalltalkers) have: how to improve the productivity of the effort spent on assessment. Moose is an innovation in this domain because it enables a completely different approach through which developers craft their own tools fast (http://humane-assessment.com) The cool thing is that they build these tools by programming Smalltalk in Pharo, and thus they get to learn the language and the platform first. >> >> Moose also comes with exposure. For example, this year I will be presenting Moose and humane assessment at some large industry oriented conferences: >> - Jazoon (http://jazoon.com) >> - GotoCon Aarhus (http://gotocon.com/aarhus-2011/) >> - GotoCon Amsterdam (http://gotocon.com/amsterdam-2011/) >> >> All in all, if you want to promote Smalltalk, and Pharo in particular, you might want to look into it. And you are always welcome to contribute, follow us and make noise: >> - http://www.moosetechnology.org >> - http://twitter.com/#!/moosetechnology >> - http://www.facebook.com/pages/moosetechnologyorg/152851281427491 >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef." >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ -- www.tudorgirba.com "If you interrupt the barber while he is cutting your hair, you will end up with a messy haircut."

May 11, 2011