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[ANN][Beta Release] DBXTools - Magritte Scaffolding - Phoseydon

by Guillermo Polito

Hi! I'm glad to announce the beta version of Phoseydon, one of the new dbxtalk tools developed as part of the summer of talk project, supported by ESUG. So, *What is Phoseydon?* It is a tool aimed to model and create applications easily, as Ruby does with Rails or python with Django. You describe a model, and from that model a relational database + an object model + an ORM mapping are fed from that model. *What does Phoseydon beta includes?* By now, it reads a database schema, builds a model description from it and then allows us to: - write classes from that description. - serialize that description as Magritte descriptions on the created classes. - build a Glorp mapping from that description. Glorp descriptions right now support Simple mappings (Strings, numbers, booleans..), OneToOne relationships, and ManyToOne relationships. *What does it do in the background?* It tries to explode Magritte benefits to create apps. The model's description is just a magritte descrition, so our class writer, magritte serializer and Glorp mapping builder use magritte visitors to consume that information. This allows people to build i.e. SOAP web services from these same magritte descriptions. *Where is the documentation? *Download info from: http://dbxtalk.smallworks.com.ar/pier/Download First Phoseydon doc: http://dbxtalk.smallworks.com.ar/pier/Documentation/creating-your-first-dbx… *What is to come?* - Editing your model descriptions in runtime - Create your model descriptions without a database - More easy Glorp mappings support :) (like embedding objects, inheritance and more collections kinds) Please, feel free to provide feedback, critics and suggestions :). You'll find the project's issue tracker and mailing list @ http://dbxtalk.smallworks.com.ar/pier/Support Cheers, The DBXTalk Team

Dec. 26, 2011

[ANN] New DBXTalk Website Available

by Guillermo Polito

Hi! I'm glad to announce the new -but still in progress- dbxtalk website, which is held in http://dbxtalk.smallworks.com.ar/. Here we are documenting the whole project and it's new acquisitions (some of them which I'll be announcing in the following hours) as part of the summer of talk project, supported by ESUG. Please, feel free to provide feedback, critics and suggestions :). You'll find the project's issue tracker and mailing list @ http://dbxtalk.smallworks.com.ar/pier/Support BTW, if you need it for something (like information we didn't migrate yet), the previous website is still available @ http://squeakdbx.smallworks.com.ar/ Cheers, Guille

Dec. 26, 2011

FAST site down

by Sean P. DeNigris

http://www.fast.org.ar/ is down. Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/FAST-site-down-tp4233718p4233718.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 26, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Bert Freudenberg

Danke Marcus! I just added a PDF version to go with the times (the PostScript file is now 15 years old): http://www.freudenbergs.de/bert/zip/balloon.pdf - Bert - On 24.12.2011, at 09:54, Francois Stephany wrote: > Woaw thanks =) > > On 24/12/11 00:52, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: >> >>> Thanks Marcus! >>> >>> I like that one: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/balloon.gif >>> Is it available in higher resolution? Where does it come from? >>> >> I think from Bert Freudenberg... ah, yes: >> >> http://www.freudenbergs.de/bert/balloon.html > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] [Dutch] Escrow agreement Smalltalk projects

by stephane ducasse

Indeed. Now what we could do as a community is to - have a list of companies that are available (but no contract because of the reasons you raised). - that the consortium set up a kind of certification process - questions… - running moose on the software :). Stef On Dec 21, 2011, at 9:54 PM, Johan Brichau wrote: > Hi Rob, > > The issue you raise is indeed very pertinent. > > But I wonder how any company can agree _beforehand_ to serve as a replacement to the original developers. There are many concerns that make it very hard to commit to such an agreement. For example, I would find it dangerous to commit to taking over a project without knowing the state of the source code. > > Because of that, I see more possibilities in a traditional escrow agreement between the company and its customer, combined with an association of companies using Smalltalk (Pharo?): > - the traditional escrow agreement makes sure that the customer gets the source code so he can contact another Smalltalk Pharo company to continue the development > - the existence of the association and its members demonstrates to the customer that he can always get in touch with other development companies that can continue working for him. > > There are discussions in the Pharo community to create such a consortium. Personally, I would prefer aligning like that. > > What do you think? What do the Pharo people think? > > cheers > Johan > > On 18 Dec 2011, at 14:31, Rob Vens wrote: > >> Dear Smalltalkers, >> This issue has been raised by a small Dutch company that delivers (Pharo/Seaside) Smalltalk solutions. >> When you, as an individual or small company, deliver Smalltalk solutions there is an implied risk for your customers in case of illness or such. >> This risk can be mitigated through an agreement with other developers/companies in which they state that they are willing and able to take development and support upon themselves, temporary or (semi-) permanent. >> Of course the process to get this formally agreed is a bit more complex, but this mail is only to ask whether there are (in this case preferably Dutch) Smalltalk developers willing to cooperate on this issue and possibly participate in some kind of legal agreement to provide more robust support to our customers. >> Please reply to me personally, unless of course you want your response to benefit the broader Smalltalk community on this mailing list. >> Rob Vens - rob(a)sepher.nl >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Udo Schneider

Hi, I once find a higher-res scan of the original Byte Balloon. It needs to be color-adjusted but maybe it helps: http://udos.s3.amazonaws.com/SmalltalkBalloon1998.jpg CU, Udo On 24.12.2011, at 03:29, Francois Stephany wrote: > Hi, > > I need to produce some documents about Smalltalk. I'd like to use the classical air balloon as a Smalltalk logo but I cannot find a good looking one in high resolution. Do you have any suggestion? > > Cheers, > > Francois > > -- > http://tulipemoutarde.be > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Francois Stephany

Woaw thanks =) On 24/12/11 00:52, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: > >> Thanks Marcus! >> >> I like that one: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/balloon.gif >> Is it available in higher resolution? Where does it come from? >> > I think from Bert Freudenberg... ah, yes: > > http://www.freudenbergs.de/bert/balloon.html

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 24, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: > Thanks Marcus! > > I like that one: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/balloon.gif > Is it available in higher resolution? Where does it come from? > I think from Bert Freudenberg... ah, yes: http://www.freudenbergs.de/bert/balloon.html -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Francois Stephany

Thanks Marcus! I like that one: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/balloon.gif Is it available in higher resolution? Where does it come from? On 24/12/11 00:36, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I need to produce some documents about Smalltalk. I'd like to use the classical air balloon as a Smalltalk logo but I cannot find a good looking one in high resolution. Do you have any suggestion? >> > There is a high-res scan of the smalltalk logo here: > > http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/ > > In addition, it has vector versions of the ESUG Logo. > > Marcus > > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > -- http://tulipemoutarde.be BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 CA: +1 778 558 3225

Dec. 24, 2011

Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk logos

by Marcus Denker

On Dec 24, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Francois Stephany wrote: > Hi, > > I need to produce some documents about Smalltalk. I'd like to use the classical air balloon as a Smalltalk logo but I cannot find a good looking one in high resolution. Do you have any suggestion? > There is a high-res scan of the smalltalk logo here: http://esug.org/data/Logos+Graphics/ In addition, it has vector versions of the ESUG Logo. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Dec. 24, 2011