September 2010 - Esug-list

ESUG 2010 Slides on Slideshare

by Marcus Denker

Hello, We have uploaded all slides that we got to slideshare. http://www.slideshare.net/esug/tag/esug2010 Later today I will put them on esug.org, too (slideshare needs Flash and other cruel things). If you can not find your presentation here: Please send it to me! Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Sept. 28, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-project] Smalltalks 2010 - Declared as Important Province Event

by Alexandre Bergel

Hernan, this is really cool. I hope Smalltalk will bootstrap soon in Chile. Cheers, Alexandre On 27 Sep 2010, at 20:46, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > Hi, > we just wanted to share with you that Smalltalks 2010 (the 4th Argentinean Smalltalk conference) has been declare of "public interest" at the Entre Rios province (where the city of Concepcion del Uruguay is and where the conference is going to be held). > We are very happy and proud of such recognition to Smalltalk and our community!! > We hope to see you there! > > Hernan. > > PS: Attached is the statement... although, it is is Spanish :-) > > <Nota ACTIER Smalltalk declaración de Interés.pdf>_______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Sept. 28, 2010

Pictures from CosmoCaixa outing on Wednesday evening

by James Foster

For your amusement... http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2080315&id=1047914752&l=80cba84d59 James Foster

Sept. 27, 2010

[ANN] Glamour on Seaside - first version

by Tudor Girba

Hi, We are happy to announce the first version of Glamour on Seaside. This work was carried out by Andrei Vasile Chis and was sponsored by ESUG. The project offers a Seaside-based rendering of Glamour browsers. In other words, once you have a browser in Glamour, you can now simply display it on the web. You can obtain the code in two ways: - Nightly built image: http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-with-glamour-seaside/lastSucces… - Metacello configuration loadable in Pharo 1.1 (not Core) Gofer new squeaksource: 'Glamour'; package: 'ConfigurationOfGlamourSeaside'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfGlamourSeaside) loadDefault. A couple of examples are available on the Moose server: http://online.moosetechnology.org/glamour/basicExamples (a number of example browsers) http://online.moosetechnology.org/moose/metaBrowser (a browser for the meta-model of Moose) Several developments are planned for the near future, so stay tuned for more news. We would highly appreciate any kind of feedback. Cheers, Andrei and Doru

Sept. 26, 2010

Position Vacancy: New Mexico Highlands University

by Stéphane Ducasse

Position Vacancy (Subject to funding and program approval) New Mexico Highlands University plans to offer both an undergraduate (BS) and graduate (MS) degree in Software-driven Systems Design. The undergraduate program is in place and State of New Mexico approval of the graduate program is in its final stages. Final approval during the legislative session in February 2011 is hoped for but is not guaranteed. If approval is forthcoming the position will be open as early as summer term (May 2011) and definitely by fall term (August 2011). If approval is not obtained (the legislature will be concentrating on economic issues this session), the dates will slip to May or August 2012. The position: Visiting Professor, School of Business Administration. Contract is renewable annually for up to five years. Compensation: $50,000 - $60,000, depending on qualifications, plus standard fringe benefits (health, retirement, dental). Additional compensation, from project work, is possible. Expected Start Date: May 20th, 2011 or August 15th, 2011. Qualifications: • Masters degree in Computer Science (software engineering specialization), MIS, Informatics or similar degree focused on software development and systems design. • Extensive knowledge of Squeak (ideally Pharo), its extensions (e.g. Seaside), and libraries (CMS, version control, morphic, etc.) plus several years experience using Squeak to develop commercial or research applications. • Demonstrated multi-disciplinary / cross-disciplinary commitment; e.g. multiple degrees, publications or teaching experience across disciplinary boundaries, multi-disciplinary honors teaching. • Demonstrated ability to use a hybrid approach to instruction and mentoring, combining the use of on-line and in-class resources and techniques. • The position does not required full-time residency in New Mexico, but will require at least 26 weeks of residency (in two to four week blocks), annually. Full-time residency is highly desirable, but not an absolute essential. Expectations: This position is unlike any other academic position, because of the unique nature of the program it supports. Faculty are expected to spend up to forty hours a week, while in residence, in the Studio working with students at all levels, and delivering academic content “on-demand” and in a highly modular and accelerated fashion. Faculty are expected to define (and seek grant funding for) research projects and involve students in both the conduct of the research and co-authoring of publications arising from the research. Faculty may take on project management responsibilities (receiving appropriate additional compensation) for commercial projects underway in the Studio. The program emphasizes the ability to think and to employ multiple perspectives (systems, object, design, agile, and computational thinking) and faculty are expected to help students develop this kind of thinking capability – far more challenging than simply preparing them to pass a final exam. Program: This program is unique: in focus, in structure, and in terms of the demands placed on faculty. The stated goal of the program is to graduate students as full-participating members of a professional community dedicated to and capable of using computing and software technology to analyze and solve the ‘wicked’ problems confronting business enterprises, communities, and global societies. Graduates will be “modern polymaths” masters not of all extant knowledge but who have learned and integrated knowledge from multiple disciplines and domains. The program is experience-based. All students will spend significant amounts of time (up to thirty-two hours a week) in a Studio – simultaneously working on real-world projects for paying customers and learning new subject matter. Students will work side-by-side- with professionals (acting as project managers and guarantors of successful delivery) who will provide tacit knowledge and mentoring. [Faculty members are eligible, and encouraged, to assume this kind of professional role – for additional compensation.] The University works with one or more private sector entities, the latter responsible for contracting and managing projects, generating sufficient revenues to pay for professionals, student apprenticeship wages, and program expenses (e.g. travel to conferences). The program is competency-based (approximately 100 currently defined) and not course-based. All competencies are defined at seven different levels (from “understands concepts as evidenced by objective test” to “makes an original contribution to the community”) and student progress (and graduation) is based on number of competencies demonstrated at level. Curricular subject matter is presented in highly modular form (think in term of one-credit, 16 face-time hours) and utilizes a combination of on-line and self-paced study, broadcast (e.g. webinar format), and in-class workshops. Students define iterative and incremental “individual education plans” every eight weeks and those plans, collectively, defined the curricular material to be delivered. Knowledge integration and motivation for learning is provided by the project and studio context in which all instruction is delivered. The Studio is a “one-room classroom” – all students, faculty, and professionals occupy the same room at the same time (much like the ideal Agile work room or the botegga where Leonardo was an apprentice and later a Master). Multiple projects are underway, with different groups working on different projects. The rhythm of the Studio is defined with iterative cycles, each beginning with a planning session and ending with a retrospective. Within the cycles are defined, repetitive, periods for special activities like reader and writer workshops, social activities, and learning “spikes.” We would like to provide the students with a comprehensive development tool and environment – Smalltalk/Squeak – as a foundation for all of their technical software development learning and activities. The use of a uniform environment will make it easier to focus on the thinking behind the technology and the analysis of problems and design of solutions. When marketplace and technical demands indicate, students will learn prevailing technologies (ranging from HTML to Java – to relational database) and new technologies (e.g. non-relational and document databases) as alternatives to the Smalltalk base. Students will leave with the same level of expertise and understanding of current mainstream tools and technologies as graduates of any other CS / MIS program; but they will also have the underlying foundation made possible with the common tool and environment. If this kind of radically different program and alternative academic appointment is of interest, please contact: (Vita is OK, but would prefer a simple letter explaining why this is of interest to you and a description of your qualifications.) Dr. David West dmwest(a)nmhu.edu profwest(a)fastmail.fm 1-505-231-7233 School of Business Administration, New Mexico Highlands University Las Vegas, New Mexico, 87701

Sept. 24, 2010

Smalltalks 2010 --- Registration and invitation

by Andres Valloud

======== INGLES The Fundación Argentina de Smalltalk (FAST) invites you to the 4th Smalltalk Conference of Argentina, to be held on November 11, 12 and 13, 2010 at the Concepción del Uruguay site of the Universidad Tecnológica Nacional. Everyone, including teachers, students, researchers, developers and entrepreneurs, are welcome as speakers or attendees. Registration is free and now open at http://www.fast.org.ar. The goal of the conference is to strengthen the Argentine and international Smalltalk community through the exchange of works, experiences and anecdotes connected with this technology or related matters. Renowned members of the international Smalltalk community will visit the conference. Moreover, this edition of the conference will have a Research Session with publications reviewed by an international committee, as well as an Industry Track for those preferring a more relaxed environment. We look forward to see your submissions. You can propose papers or talks know through our website, or by sending an email to info(a)fast.org.ar. See you there! ======== SPANISH La Fundación Argentina de Smalltalk (FAST) los invita a la 4ta Conferencia de Smalltalk de Argentina, a realizarse desde el 11 al 13 de Noviembre del 2010 en la sede de Concepción del Uruguay de la Universidad Tecnológica Nacional. Esperamos verlos a todos entre la audiencia o como oradores, ya sean profesores, estudiantes, investigadores, desarrolladores o empresarios. La registración es gratis y está disponible en http://www.fast.org.ar. El objetivo de la conferencia es afianzar los vínculos entre las comunidades Smalltalk de Argentina y del mundo, a través del intercambio de trabajos, experiencias y vivencias conectadas con esta tecnología. De hecho, este año nos visitarán personalidades de renombre de la comunidad internacional. Además, en esta edición de la conferencia tendremos un track de investigación formal con publicaciones y referato de un comité internacional. También tendremos un track de industria para aquellos que prefieran un ambiente más informal. Pueden enviarnos sus propuestas de charlas o papers mediante nuestra página web, o enviándonos un mail a info(a)fast.org.ar. Nos vemos en la conferencia!

Sept. 24, 2010

GSoC Project for Namespaces

by James Foster

Germán Leiva was accepted in Google Summer of Code 2010 and developed a Namespaces implementation for Pharo Smalltalk. A video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4I7fSVNX2A is based on his presentation at ESUG in Barcelona last week. You can get the code at http://www.squeaksource.com/Environments.html. James Foster

Sept. 23, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice

by Thomas Brey

14 timesRepeat:[YES]. Steve, unfortunately most VSE Users missed your question... This week, we raised your question again on the VSEW mailing list and so far, we got 14 positive replies from the following persons/companies which did not directly reply to your posting (their replies are appended below) : Derek Renouf, Martin H. Krough, Giorgio Ferraris, Chris Copleston, Kjell Harald Ulstad, Nicolas Bryant, Lorenzo Schiavina, Ed Baker, Manfred Möbus, Carl Gundel, Skogstad Nielsson, Rick Martin, Lorin McCaffrey, Alejandro F. Reimondo Regards, Tom -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org]Im Auftrag von Steven Kelly Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. September 2010 11:13 An: Henrik Høyer; The general-purpose Squeak developers list; ESUG Mailing list Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice If you are continuing to use VSE, please reply to the list with at least a simple Yes. I have no interest in VSE, but Henrik has asked twice and got no replies (on this list), so lets at least help reduce a fellow Smalltalkers frustration. Cheers, Steve ****************** ORIGINAL REPLIES FROM THE VSEW MAILING LIST **************************************************** -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Derek Renouf Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 10:30 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice Andreas, We are very interested in continued use of VSE and developments including the Lesser VM. Whilst I am not on the ESUG mailing list I am certainly interested in the response from Cincom. -- Derek ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Martin H Krogh Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 10:24 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice Sorry - I must have missed that one... Yeah, I'm happily using VSE :-) Med venlig hilsen / Best regards MARTIN HASTRUP KROGH Systemdeveloper CSC Scandihealth A/S --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von giorgio ferraris Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 11:17 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice we are still using VSE for an old product new dev in VW ciao Giorgio ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Chris Copleston Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 11:22 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice We use VSE for our web authoring product: www.softidiom.com Regards, Chris Copleston www.softidiom.com www.4dsites.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Kjell Harald Ulstad Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 11:53 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice Hi! Yes, we are using VSE, but we dont follow the ESUG mailing list. Our product (Paga Klient) is critically important for us and our customers. www.multidata-bluegarden.com Regards /Kjell Kjell H. Ulstad Arkitekt. Systemeier Paga/R&D +47 908 33 417 www.bluegarden.no ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Nicolas Bryant Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 12:04 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice As everyone else seems to be chiming in: my VisualSmalltalk application is still very important to my company and will remain so for at least another year or two. We recently signed a 7-figure contract with the Australian army, and the VisualSmalltalk application is probably the single most important component for their purposes. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Lorenzo Schiavina Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 12:35 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice All my applications are in VSE www.edor.it Lorenzo ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Ed Baker Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 13:32 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice Yes, we are using VSE for our product. I am not on the ESUG mailing list. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Möbus. Manfred Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 14:53 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice Adding one further item: We are heavily using VSE, will probably do so for long (and none of us is in the esug mailing list). Manfred ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Carl Gundel Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 15:44 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice I use it all the time, nearly every day. -Carl Gundel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von SkogstadNielsen Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 16:05 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice Here is another happy user Søren Skogstad Nielsen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Rick Martin Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 16:19 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice We (Data-Basics) market a very large VSE based application known as Sampro. VSE is vital to our business and will continue to be so for the foreseeable future. Rick Martin Data-Basics Inc. rmartin(a)databasics.com 216-663-5600 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Lorin McCaffrey Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 19:29 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice We (Policy Works, formerly known as Tec4 Systems) are still actively developing on VSE. No we dont monitor the ESUG mailing list. Lorin McCaffrey Director of Product Development Policy Works Commercial Management Systems Direct: 403.450.1101 Toll Free: 800.260.3676 x101 lorin.mccaffrey(a)policyworks.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Using Visual Smalltalk for Windows/Enterprise [mailto:VSWE-L@LISTSERV.DFN.DE]Im Auftrag von Alejandro F. Reimondo Gesendet: Mittwoch, 22. September 2010 21:11 An: VSWE-L(a)LISTSERV.DFN.DE Betreff: Re: Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice Hi!, I have been working in development and consulting in VSE from the time it was released... nothing has changed from that time ;-) "Yes, I´m using VSE" But from my first meeting with Frank Lesser, I desided to do not wait for charity of companies interested in other bussiness and/or other "future" for Smalltalk; I accept their points of view and actions, but don't think they will change to converge to my needs. It has been some years ago, from our first meeting and now we have a much better VM (version 3.0 & still capable to host VSE applications! ) and it also can host other OO runtimes at top speed AT SAME TIME (yes, we can run more than one smalltalk environment at same time now, and we will show our vm running vse+others soon). My personal experience with VSE let me use it in situations that are more speed demanding than expected by Cincom people; there was a response of an referent of Cincom to this thread (but I do not remember if it was here) saying that VW is used in real time apps... In last years my use of VSE has been in many domains, one of them was in analysis of video information (vision stuff running on stored video databases). For that kind of use of smalltalk I need to run 5 to 10 times faster than real time!!! It is not acceptable to take one hour to process one hour of video data :-) With VSE I implemented good solutions where most processing at medium & upper levels is realized in Smalltalk under windows platform (using com, native & callback based interfaces). With Lesser-software VM we have much faster processing and let me increase the power of my product to process 3 to 4 times the frames I processed with VSE. With no modification of source code. IMO the decade that has passed from discontinuation of VSE, do not invalidate the use of the product but there are things that we need to resolve : 1.- enhancement and maintenance of VM (not the same vm, we need a mantained vm of this decade) 2.- zero cost portability; a lot of frameworks are written in other smalltalk dialects and running with other OO runtimes -e.g. javascript-; we need to use that frameworks WITHOUT porting costs (it is crazy to write and mantain sources when we have been using objects for decades). 3.- diversity - we need to support diversity in semantics (more flexible&powerfull semantics management in coherence with the first steps made in VSE but enabling more features). The point 1 is the most dificult point because it requires real experience in the field, the "I want to be a vm maker" attitude do not help in this area. [*] thanks for reading! Ale. [*] There is recent evidence to consider e.g. Jitter implementation of Squeak... an open source implementation put in the tips of an active community; that has never evolved to be part of a high perfomance Squeak implementation.

Sept. 23, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-project] ESUG actions (was: Best Spreading Smalltalk Actions)

by Stéphane Ducasse

:) This is fun because one of the board member raised the question just before this remark. We are not sure that rebranding is good but so far I like your slogan. And we welcome any smalltalker. The goals of esug are simple (you can see that in the first talk of esug and also the one of serge about future actions) - create energy in the community (via the conf via new user groups) - support open-source development - support business in Smalltalk - push/help teacher teaching Smalltalk - bring open-source and business together (check my last talk at Barcelona - we need strong vendors and strong open-source) ESUG never took into account geographic perspective, we sent books all over the world in the past. And student volunteers came from everywhere :) Stef > > I think ESUG has been an outstanding success for Smalltalk globally and > therefore deserves to be called The Smalltalk Users Group. TSUG. Such a name > change will also give a better impression to Smalltalk and is not untrue. > > All the best, > Aik-Siong Koh > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Best-Spreading-Smalltalk-Actions-tp2542307p2551292.ht… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 23, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by Johan Fabry

Excellent, my thanks to all involved! On 22 Sep 2010, at 11:36, James Robertson wrote: > For the recorded video, you can thank the folks at Citilab (where the conference was held). They both streamed the video (which worked well from what I saw), and saved the raw recordings. I have the raw recordings (again, thanks to them) - and I'll be editing them for posting. The editing involves simple stuff, btw: > > -- trimming the beginning, where there's often minutes of "dead air" before a presenter was ready > -- adding title screens > -- saving the processed video into multiple formats for easy access, whether it's from a PC, a Mac, or a mobile device > > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > >> >> Thanks, thats great! Were all talks recorded on video? >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ESUG-2010-Videos-tp2550414p2550498.html >> Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by Marten Feldtmann

Streaming was in general pretty well done - though one time I had an echo (wherever this came from) and in general the sound was too low - I had to pull up my speaker to maximum and within Windows 7 the speaker control to maximum ... But actually very, very nice ... Marten Am 22.09.2010 17:50, schrieb Michael Lucas-Smith: > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Geert Claes wrote: >> >>> >>> Thanks, thats great! Were all talks recorded on video? >> >> yes!!! >> And this year not like at Amsterdam we got a videos. >> > > And the streaming worked very well. Thank you. > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by Michael Lucas-Smith

On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:49 AM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Geert Claes wrote: > >> >> Thanks, thats great! Were all talks recorded on video? > > yes!!! > And this year not like at Amsterdam we got a videos. > And the streaming worked very well. Thank you. Michael

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by Stéphane Ducasse

On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:22 PM, Geert Claes wrote: > > Thanks, thats great! Were all talks recorded on video? yes!!! And this year not like at Amsterdam we got a videos. Stef

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by stephane ducasse

thanks! On Sep 22, 2010, at 5:05 PM, James Robertson wrote: > I'm posting the videos into the "Smalltalk Videos" feed: > > http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/cincom/blogView?content=smalltalk_… > > and archiving them at STIC: > > http://stic.st/stic?content=esug10 > > > On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > >> >> Are there any plans to make the ESUG 2010 video recordings of the talks >> available through the esug.org website soon? >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ESUG-2010-Videos-tp2550414p2550414.html >> Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by James Robertson

For the recorded video, you can thank the folks at Citilab (where the conference was held). They both streamed the video (which worked well from what I saw), and saved the raw recordings. I have the raw recordings (again, thanks to them) - and I'll be editing them for posting. The editing involves simple stuff, btw: -- trimming the beginning, where there's often minutes of "dead air" before a presenter was ready -- adding title screens -- saving the processed video into multiple formats for easy access, whether it's from a PC, a Mac, or a mobile device On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > > Thanks, thats great! Were all talks recorded on video? > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ESUG-2010-Videos-tp2550414p2550498.html > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by Geert Claes

Thanks, thats great! Were all talks recorded on video? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ESUG-2010-Videos-tp2550414p2550498.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by James Robertson

I'm posting the videos into the "Smalltalk Videos" feed: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/cincom/blogView?content=smalltalk_… and archiving them at STIC: http://stic.st/stic?content=esug10 On Sep 22, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Geert Claes wrote: > > Are there any plans to make the ESUG 2010 video recordings of the talks > available through the esug.org website soon? > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ESUG-2010-Videos-tp2550414p2550414.html > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] A point about building community

by Geert Claes

Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > as you will be able to hear it when the esug videos will be online (pretty > soon in fact) > Excellent! Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > I would like to restate some points: > > - ESUG wants powerful smalltalk vendors. We need them strong, > innovative... Enlighten us :) > - ESUG wants to push Smalltalk - you will get some announce and summary of > our next actions :) > - ESUG wants to have a powerful open source community and it will help > > we are happy to announce the creation of scona the mailing-list of the > north america user group. > http://scona.us/mailman/listinfo/scona-list > Great initiative, I have added the SCONA mailing list as an online forum on The World of Smalltalk, see http://forum.world.st/SCONA-f2550426.html forum.world.st On a side-note, following Serge's post I also added the Korean Squeakers to the growing number of Local User Groups: http://www.world.st/usergroups Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > > If you want to help to push with us and you have some time/ideas... let us > know. > I have some ideas on how to make www.world.st better and I am also open to feedback :) -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/A-point-about-building-community-tp2544853p2550454.ht… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Videos?

by Johan Fabry

+1. Please announce when they are online! On 22 Sep 2010, at 10:32, Geert Claes wrote: > > Are there any plans to make the ESUG 2010 video recordings of the talks > available through the esug.org website soon? > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ESUG-2010-Videos-tp2550414p2550414.html > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Sept. 22, 2010

ESUG 2010 Videos?

by Geert Claes

Are there any plans to make the ESUG 2010 video recordings of the talks available through the esug.org website soon? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ESUG-2010-Videos-tp2550414p2550414.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice

by Telebit Consulting S.r.l.

Yes, we are using VSE Nino Galante ___________________ Telebit Consulting S.r.l. http://www.telebitconsulting.it ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Kelly To: Henrik Høyer ; The general-purpose Squeak developers list ; ESUG Mailing list Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice If you are continuing to use VSE, please reply to the list with at least a simple "Yes". I have no interest in VSE, but Henrik has asked twice and got no replies (on this list), so let's at least help reduce a fellow Smalltalker's frustration. Cheers, Steve From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf Of Henrik Høyer Sent: 7. syyskuuta 2010 22:04 To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list; ESUG Mailing list Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprice Dear all From the reactions to my post, I fear that people might have misunderstood me. Bear in mind, that I am not a native English speaker - though my language might sound harsh and offensive, I do have the best intensions. The subject of the original post should perhaps have been: "Is Cincom slowly killing Visual Smalltalk Enterprise *customers*". Who shot VSE a long time ago is another discussion. As are the discussion of how/whether one could/should port the applications to other Smalltalk dialects. My focus is entirely on how the current VSE users can extend the life of their applications on the VSE platform. Even though development on VSE stopped more than 10 years ago, the applications are still running today on current operating system versions and with on-par performance. Part of VSE is closed source; The VM, the compiler and several other stuff. Though clever hacking/patching bugs in these closed parts of VSE have been fixes by the community since the official development stopped. But Cincom (who has the exclusive rights to make money from supporting the product) has now unleashed its lawyers, and are threatening some of the most active people in the community. The amount of "lawyer muscle" behind the threats are actually keeping people from even replying to this post. I did have a deep respect for Cincom; they have done a great job for the Smalltalk community. I don't know where in their organization the "money matters more than ethics" policy is in action. It is not among the Smalltalk people we all know, but the ones who are pulling the strings are in fact doing a lot of damage to their corporate image. I know that some Cincom employees have commented on my post, but I still have had no answers to the main question: Are Cincom willing to donate/sell their "exclusive exploratory rights to the VSE product"? Please note: The question is not about the IP. It is only about the rights that Cincom holds, oh and by the way; are Cincom willing to disclose the contact they have with Seagull regarding these rights? With all the best intensions Henrik Høyer Chief Software Architect hh(a)sppl.dk . (+45) 4029 2092 Rued Langgaards Vej 7 . 2300 Kbh. S www.sPeople.dk . (+45) 7023 7775 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 22, 2010

Colstme in September

by Alexander Lazarević

Hi! Just a short reminder that the next Cologne Smalltalk Meetup will be happening next Thursday at the usual time and location. For any details have a look at [1]. Cheers, Alex [1] http://colstme.selfish.org/events/2010.4-Stammtisch

Sept. 22, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Best Spreading Smalltalk Actions

by Geert Claes

Congrats guys! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Best-Spreading-Smalltalk-Actions-tp2542311p2550101.ht… Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 22, 2010

ESUG actions (was: Best Spreading Smalltalk Actions)

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi, ESUG is willing to support all actions everywhere. The "E" of ESUG can also be interpreted as "Earth-wide" :-) In places where there are Smalltalk groups we help them (sponsoring). Otherwise we push their creation. If you have a project that might help the Smalltalk community in someway (free software project, writing books, organizing an event, ...), you are eligible to ESUG support. Just submit your proposal to the ESUG board (board(a)esug.org) and you'll get quickly an answer. You can find a list of ESUG actions on-line: http://www.esug.org/Promotion Noury ESUG Treasurer www.esug.org On 21 sept. 2010, at 13:25, Germán Arduino wrote: > Hi: > > I agree with Mariano, ESUG is sponsoring me even when I do not live in > Europe and I can not even go to conferences in Europe. > > Also they helped me to present my products in two editions of > Innovation Technology Awards, without being present. > > Thanks ESUG. > > > 2010/9/21 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Casey Ransberger <casey.obrien.r(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> As far as sponsoring local user groups: does this apply only in Europe? Or >>> can people outside of Europe also ask for support? >> >> I think they can. We got sponsored twice for SqueakDBX and we were living >> in Argentina. German is now sponsored for RPC project and he also lives >> there. >> >> In addition, FAST (which can be kind of local user group in Argentina) >> received something too. >> >> But maybe I am wrong....I cc'ed esug mailing list. >> >> cheers >> >> mariano >> >>> >>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Stay tuned :) the new board acted that it will launch a lot of new >>>> actions >>>> Sponsoring local user groups >>>> Conference sponsoring Smalltalk Solutions, Smalltalks >>>> Smalltalk in the cloud >>>> Smalltalk and robots >>>> Smalltalk web Archive >>>> Summertalk Project... >>>> But we will have two ESUG action ambassadors: Alain Plantec and Serge >>>> Stinckwich >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Congratulations! Your efforts are really appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 Sep 2010, at 19:41, laurent laffont wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you !! >>>>>> >>>>>> Laurent >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Although the technology is important, spreading the word is also of >>>>>> great value to the Smalltalk community. >>>>>> This is why the ESUG board decided to distinguish two people for their >>>>>> actions on this-level: >>>>>> >>>>>> -Damien Cassou >>>>>> for Squeak-dev: an initiative which makes developers life easier by >>>>>> setting a ready to use image including best available tools. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Laurent Laffont >>>>>> for Pharocast: quality screencasts that illustrates various facets of >>>>>> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Congratulations Damien and Laurent! >>>>>> >>>>>> Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) >>>>>> --- >>>>>> 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 >>>>>> Barcelona, Spain. >>>>>> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "Some battles are better lost than fought." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > ================================================= > Germán S. Arduino <gsa @ arsol.net> Twitter: garduino > Arduino Software & Web Hosting http://www.arduinosoftware.com > PasswordsPro http://www.passwordspro.com > =================================================

Sept. 21, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-users] moose 4.1

by Stéphane Ducasse

cool! On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:14 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hello, > > We are happy to announce the Moose Suite version 4.1: > http://moosetechnology.org/download > > What's new: > > • Significant speed improvements of Mondrian and Glamour > • Improved Mondrian drawing of complex shapes > • Improved Glamour engine to handle cyclic updates > • New user interface look an feel > • Improved set of Glamour widgets > • Re-packaging to strengthen the naming convention > • Re-organization of the code to break unwanted dependencies > • Cleaning of FAMIX > • New extensible design of the Moose Finder > • New PetitParser-based parsers for MSE, Java, and MANIFEST.MF files > • New browser for meta-models described in MSE files > • Based on Pharo 1.1 > > A complete list of issues fixed in this release can be found at:http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fix… > > An incomplete set of future actions: > > • Better browsers for various analyses use cases > • Improved FAMIX query API (MooseChic) > • Improved Glamour widgets > • EyeSee engine for drawing charts > • AST for Java > > > Have fun, > The Moose Team > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-users mailing list > Pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users

Sept. 20, 2010

moose 4.1

by Tudor Girba

Hello, We are happy to announce the Moose Suite version 4.1: http://moosetechnology.org/download What's new: • Significant speed improvements of Mondrian and Glamour • Improved Mondrian drawing of complex shapes • Improved Glamour engine to handle cyclic updates • New user interface look an feel • Improved set of Glamour widgets • Re-packaging to strengthen the naming convention • Re-organization of the code to break unwanted dependencies • Cleaning of FAMIX • New extensible design of the Moose Finder • New PetitParser-based parsers for MSE, Java, and MANIFEST.MF files • New browser for meta-models described in MSE files • Based on Pharo 1.1 A complete list of issues fixed in this release can be found at:http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fix… An incomplete set of future actions: • Better browsers for various analyses use cases • Improved FAMIX query API (MooseChic) • Improved Glamour widgets • EyeSee engine for drawing charts • AST for Java Have fun, The Moose Team

Sept. 20, 2010

A point about building community

by Stéphane Ducasse

Hi guys as you will be able to hear it when the esug videos will be online (pretty soon in fact), I would like to restate some points: - ESUG wants powerful smalltalk vendors. We need them strong, innovative... Enlighten us :) - ESUG wants to push Smalltalk - you will get some announce and summary of our next actions :) - ESUG wants to have a powerful open source community and it will help we are happy to announce the creation of scona the mailing-list of the north america user group. http://scona.us/mailman/listinfo/scona-list If you want to help to push with us and you have some time/ideas... let us know. Stef

Sept. 18, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Running WebVelocity in the Amazon cloud

by stephane ducasse

cool! Stef On Sep 16, 2010, at 9:58 AM, Arden Thomas wrote: > Dear ESUG folks; > > Below are the links to the videos I would have liked to have shown, had I more presentation time. > > It demonstrates exactly what setup is needed to configure and use this Smalltalk product in the cloud, both for development, and deployment, including load balancing. > > I thought many in this audience could benefit seeing how this is done. > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20291/Cincom%20Smalltalk/AmazonRDS-2010-07-22-part1… > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20291/Cincom%20Smalltalk/AmazonRDS-2010-07-22-part2… > > Regards > > Arden > > Arden Thomas > Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager > athomas(a)cincom.com > 845 296 0686 > > Cincom Smalltalk - It makes hard things easier, the impossible, possible > > "Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication" - Leonardo Da Vinci > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 17, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Thanks to ESUG and their sponsors

by stephane ducasse

On Sep 16, 2010, at 10:44 PM, John O'Keefe wrote: > I, for one, was happy with our 30 minutes since it was not on the usual Friday morning :-) ;) Thanks john for this mail :) I have so many constraints, you see I put a really excellent talk instead. :) Imagine friday morning at 9h after the rain. Lukas survived to it. > But more seriously, I will just echo Joachim's email (since we talked about this subject for a length of time before he sent it, I saw no surprises there). 30 minutes is sufficient to give an overview of product status. If there is something of particular interest (and more depth) that a vendor has to say, they can submit other presentation proposals on those specific topics. Tx john. People should remember that this is their conference, we try to get stuff happening but at the end the submissions are important. For the tech awards for example you can only vote for what the people propose. Stef

Sept. 17, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-project] Best Spreading Smalltalk Actions

by Stéphane Ducasse

Stay tuned :) the new board acted that it will launch a lot of new actions Sponsoring local user groups Conference sponsoring Smalltalk Solutions, Smalltalks Smalltalk in the cloud Smalltalk and robots Smalltalk web Archive Summertalk Project... But we will have two ESUG action ambassadors: Alain Plantec and Serge Stinckwich Stef On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:27 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Congratulations! Your efforts are really appreciated. > > Doru > > > On 16 Sep 2010, at 19:41, laurent laffont wrote: > >> Thank you !! >> >> Laurent >> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Although the technology is important, spreading the word is also of great value to the Smalltalk community. >> This is why the ESUG board decided to distinguish two people for their actions on this-level: >> >> -Damien Cassou >> for Squeak-dev: an initiative which makes developers life easier by setting a ready to use image including best available tools. >> >> -Laurent Laffont >> for Pharocast: quality screencasts that illustrates various facets of >> http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ >> >> Congratulations Damien and Laurent! >> >> Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) >> --- >> 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 Barcelona, Spain. >> http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Some battles are better lost than fought." > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project

Sept. 17, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-project] Best Spreading Smalltalk Actions

by Tudor Girba

Congratulations! Your efforts are really appreciated. Doru On 16 Sep 2010, at 19:41, laurent laffont wrote: > Thank you !! > > Laurent > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Although the technology is important, spreading the word is also of great value to the Smalltalk community. > This is why the ESUG board decided to distinguish two people for their actions on this-level: > > -Damien Cassou > for Squeak-dev: an initiative which makes developers life easier by setting a ready to use image including best available tools. > > -Laurent Laffont > for Pharocast: quality screencasts that illustrates various facets of > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > > Congratulations Damien and Laurent! > > Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) > --- > 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 Barcelona, Spain. > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- www.tudorgirba.com "Some battles are better lost than fought."

Sept. 17, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] ESUG 2010 Tech Awards Results

by Tudor Girba

Congratulations to all participants and, in particular to the winners! I wish I was there :) Cheers, Doru On 16 Sep 2010, at 11:06, Noury Bouraqadi wrote: > Hi, > > Monday evening we had demos of participants. It was great and we had hard time voting. > Yesterday evening we had the awards ceremony. > And the winners are... > > -1st Physical Etoys (Squeak Etoys) > • Developers: Lic. Gonzalo Zabala, Ricardo Moran, Sebastián Blanco > • Keywords: Visual programming, Programming Real world objects > > -2nd Cog (Squeak, Pharo) > • Developers: Eliot Miranda > • Keywords: Virtual machine > > -3rd Mars (Pharo) > • Developers: Esteban Lorenzano > • Keywords: MVC framework, native UI, OSX > > Videos and more info about participants and winners are on: > http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2010/InnovationTechnologyAwards > > Thanx to all participants and congratulations to the winners! > > Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) > --- > 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 Barcelona, Spain. > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- www.tudorgirba.com "No matter how many recipes we know, we still value a chef."

Sept. 17, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Thanks to ESUG and their sponsors

by John O'Keefe

I, for one, was happy with our 30 minutes since it was not on the usual Friday morning :-) But more seriously, I will just echo Joachim's email (since we talked about this subject for a length of time before he sent it, I saw no surprises there). 30 minutes is sufficient to give an overview of product status. If there is something of particular interest (and more depth) that a vendor has to say, they can submit other presentation proposals on those specific topics. John O'Keefe [|], Principal Smalltalk Architect, Instantiations Inc. Skype: john_okeefe2 Mobile: +1 919 417-3181 (Business hours USA Eastern Time zone (GMT -5)) john_okeefe(a)instantiations.com http://st.instantiations.com *VA Smalltalk...Onward and Upward!* 2010/9/15 stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> > all the vendors were given the same amount of time. And there are a lot of > talk about their platforms in the program. > > Stef > > On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Henrik Høyer wrote: > > > Just my humble thoughts... > > > > I watched the talks from Cincom and Instantiations , and was somewhat > surprised of the very short time they were given. They are sponsors of the > event, and should imho get more time to promote their offerings. > > > > The talks from the vendors was biased towards existing customers, and I > think that the vendors should be given a chance to promote the offerings; > show their usp's, showcase their references, present licensing information, > prices etc. etc. > > > > Basically allow them to give the sales pitch, they would normally use to > impress a prospect. > > -- > > Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS > > Chief Software Architect > > (+45) 4029 2092 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] [Pharo-project] Best Spreading Smalltalk Actions

by laurent laffont

Thank you !! Laurent On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Noury Bouraqadi <bouraqadi(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Although the technology is important, spreading the word is also of great > value to the Smalltalk community. > This is why the ESUG board decided to distinguish two people for their > actions on this-level: > > -Damien Cassou > for Squeak-dev: an initiative which makes developers life easier by setting > a ready to use image including best available tools. > > -Laurent Laffont > for Pharocast: quality screencasts that illustrates various facets of > http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ > > Congratulations Damien and Laurent! > > Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) > --- > 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 > Barcelona, Spain. > http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010 > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > Pharo-project(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >

Sept. 16, 2010

Best Spreading Smalltalk Actions

by Noury Bouraqadi

Although the technology is important, spreading the word is also of great value to the Smalltalk community. This is why the ESUG board decided to distinguish two people for their actions on this-level: -Damien Cassou for Squeak-dev: an initiative which makes developers life easier by setting a ready to use image including best available tools. -Laurent Laffont for Pharocast: quality screencasts that illustrates various facets of http://pharocasts.blogspot.com/ Congratulations Damien and Laurent! Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) --- 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 Barcelona, Spain. http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010

Sept. 16, 2010

Best Smalltalk Book of the previous 6 years

by Noury Bouraqadi

Yesterday evening we also announced the result of the survey. And the winner is... Dynamic Web Development with Seaside By Stéphane Ducasse, Lukas Renggli, David C. Shaffer, Rick Zaccone, Michael Davies Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) --- 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 Barcelona, Spain. http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Running WebVelocity in the Amazon cloud

by Arden Thomas

If those links don't work, try the links from here: http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/blog/blogView?showComments=true&printTitle=W… Arden On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:58 AM, Arden Thomas wrote: > Dear ESUG folks; > > Below are the links to the videos I would have liked to have shown, > had I more presentation time. > > It demonstrates exactly what setup is needed to configure and use > this Smalltalk product in the cloud, both for development, and > deployment, including load balancing. > > I thought many in this audience could benefit seeing how this is done. > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20291/Cincom%20Smalltalk/AmazonRDS-2010-07-22-part1… > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20291/Cincom%20Smalltalk/AmazonRDS-2010-07-22-part2… > > Regards > > Arden > > Arden Thomas > Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager > athomas(a)cincom.com > 845 296 0686 > > Cincom Smalltalk - It makes hard things easier, the impossible, > possible > > "Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication" - Leonardo Da Vinci > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org Arden Thomas Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager athomas(a)cincom.com 845 296 0686 Cincom Smalltalk - It makes hard things easier, the impossible, possible "Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication" - Leonardo Da Vinci

Sept. 16, 2010

ESUG 2010 Tech Awards Results

by Noury Bouraqadi

Hi, Monday evening we had demos of participants. It was great and we had hard time voting. Yesterday evening we had the awards ceremony. And the winners are... -1st Physical Etoys (Squeak Etoys) • Developers: Lic. Gonzalo Zabala, Ricardo Moran, Sebastián Blanco • Keywords: Visual programming, Programming Real world objects -2nd Cog (Squeak, Pharo) • Developers: Eliot Miranda • Keywords: Virtual machine -3rd Mars (Pharo) • Developers: Esteban Lorenzano • Keywords: MVC framework, native UI, OSX Videos and more info about participants and winners are on: http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2010/InnovationTechnologyAwards Thanx to all participants and congratulations to the winners! Noury @ ESUG 2010 - Barcelona :-) --- 18th International Smalltalk Joint Conference, September 13 -17 2010 Barcelona, Spain. http://www.esug.org/Conferences/2010

Sept. 16, 2010

Running WebVelocity in the Amazon cloud

by Arden Thomas

Dear ESUG folks; Below are the links to the videos I would have liked to have shown, had I more presentation time. It demonstrates exactly what setup is needed to configure and use this Smalltalk product in the cloud, both for development, and deployment, including load balancing. I thought many in this audience could benefit seeing how this is done. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20291/Cincom%20Smalltalk/AmazonRDS-2010-07-22-part1… http://dl.dropbox.com/u/20291/Cincom%20Smalltalk/AmazonRDS-2010-07-22-part2… Regards Arden Arden Thomas Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager athomas(a)cincom.com 845 296 0686 Cincom Smalltalk - It makes hard things easier, the impossible, possible "Simplicity is the Ultimate Sophistication" - Leonardo Da Vinci

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Thanks to ESUG and their sponsors

by Henrik Høyer

I totally agree, ESUS is a *user group*, and the event should be held with that in mind! And believe me, I know that not being there in person is a huge loss. Though watching the presentations from a distance does make a lot of sense for me, and I have recommended them to my network, *including* non Smalltalkers. -- Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS Chief Software Architect (+45) 4029 2092 -----Original Message----- From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf Of Joachim Tuchel Sent: 16. september 2010 00:20 To: esug-list(a)lists.esug.org Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Thanks to ESUG and their sponsors Henrik, from what I've heard in the coffee break (and I agree to that), most people here in Barcelona thought this is enough. The idea (or at least the ideaof the audience) was that each vendor can present some of their hghlights to the wider Smalltalk communities, but not more than that. The users of a certain dialect probably know most of that stuff already, and the others just want to hear what's going on in the other dialects. And, of course, you must keep in mind that we have lots of time for talking between the talks, and the real fun is not in the talks but between them. When you're not here, you miss a lot, even if you can see the prsentations. Luckily, all the vendor representants here are open minded, friendly and don't show a "them vs. us" attitude. You can see people from Gemstone, Instantiations and Cincom standing together and chatting, as well as Cincomers working on Smalltalk code in Pharo or VA Smalltalk, in order to port some framework over or play with stuff. So if you were here and wanted to learn morw about a specific feature, you could always approach Arden, Dale or John and have a chat. Which is what's happening. While we're at it, let me phrase it in my words: ESUG is a conference, not a tradeshow. I'd be p*d off if I had flown here, booked a hotel and paid for long sales talks. I'd be happy to listen to long sales presentations if this would make ESUG attendence free. But as long as I pay for it: no commercial breaks, please ;-) Just my thoughts Joachim Am 15.09.10 15:26, schrieb stephane ducasse: > all the vendors were given the same amount of time. And there are a lot of talk about their platforms in the program. > > Stef > > On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Henrik Høyer wrote: > >> Just my humble thoughts... >> >> I watched the talks from Cincom and Instantiations , and was somewhat surprised of the very short time they were given. They are sponsors of the event, and should imho get more time to promote their offerings. >> >> The talks from the vendors was biased towards existing customers, and I think that the vendors should be given a chance to promote the offerings; show their usp's, showcase their references, present licensing information, prices etc. etc. >> >> Basically allow them to give the sales pitch, they would normally use to impress a prospect. >> -- >> Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS >> Chief Software Architect >> (+45) 4029 2092 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Thanks to ESUG and their sponsors

by stephane ducasse

Thanks joachim this is great summary. We are in sync. Stef > Henrik, > > from what I've heard in the coffee break (and I agree to that), most people here in Barcelona thought this is enough. The idea (or at least the ideaof the audience) was that each vendor can present some of their hghlights to the wider Smalltalk communities, but not more than that. The users of a certain dialect probably know most of that stuff already, and the others just want to hear what's going on in the other dialects. > > And, of course, you must keep in mind that we have lots of time for talking between the talks, and the real fun is not in the talks but between them. When you're not here, you miss a lot, even if you can see the prsentations. Luckily, all the vendor representants here are open minded, friendly and don't show a "them vs. us" attitude. You can see people from Gemstone, Instantiations and Cincom standing together and chatting, as well as Cincomers working on Smalltalk code in Pharo or VA Smalltalk, in order to port some framework over or play with stuff. So if you were here and wanted to learn morw about a specific feature, you could always approach Arden, Dale or John and have a chat. Which is what's happening. > > While we're at it, let me phrase it in my words: ESUG is a conference, not a tradeshow. I'd be p*d off if I had flown here, booked a hotel and paid for long sales talks. I'd be happy to listen to long sales presentations if this would make ESUG attendence free. But as long as I pay for it: no commercial breaks, please ;-) > > Just my thoughts > > Joachim > > > > Am 15.09.10 15:26, schrieb stephane ducasse: >> all the vendors were given the same amount of time. And there are a lot of talk about their platforms in the program. >> >> Stef >> >> On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Henrik Høyer wrote: >> >>> Just my humble thoughts... >>> >>> I watched the talks from Cincom and Instantiations , and was somewhat surprised of the very short time they were given. They are sponsors of the event, and should imho get more time to promote their offerings. >>> >>> The talks from the vendors was biased towards existing customers, and I think that the vendors should be given a chance to promote the offerings; show their usp's, showcase their references, present licensing information, prices etc. etc. >>> >>> Basically allow them to give the sales pitch, they would normally use to impress a prospect. >>> -- >>> Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS >>> Chief Software Architect >>> (+45) 4029 2092 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > D-71640 Ludwigsburg > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Thanks to ESUG and their sponsors

by Joachim Tuchel

Henrik, from what I've heard in the coffee break (and I agree to that), most people here in Barcelona thought this is enough. The idea (or at least the ideaof the audience) was that each vendor can present some of their hghlights to the wider Smalltalk communities, but not more than that. The users of a certain dialect probably know most of that stuff already, and the others just want to hear what's going on in the other dialects. And, of course, you must keep in mind that we have lots of time for talking between the talks, and the real fun is not in the talks but between them. When you're not here, you miss a lot, even if you can see the prsentations. Luckily, all the vendor representants here are open minded, friendly and don't show a "them vs. us" attitude. You can see people from Gemstone, Instantiations and Cincom standing together and chatting, as well as Cincomers working on Smalltalk code in Pharo or VA Smalltalk, in order to port some framework over or play with stuff. So if you were here and wanted to learn morw about a specific feature, you could always approach Arden, Dale or John and have a chat. Which is what's happening. While we're at it, let me phrase it in my words: ESUG is a conference, not a tradeshow. I'd be p*d off if I had flown here, booked a hotel and paid for long sales talks. I'd be happy to listen to long sales presentations if this would make ESUG attendence free. But as long as I pay for it: no commercial breaks, please ;-) Just my thoughts Joachim Am 15.09.10 15:26, schrieb stephane ducasse: > all the vendors were given the same amount of time. And there are a lot of talk about their platforms in the program. > > Stef > > On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Henrik Høyer wrote: > >> Just my humble thoughts... >> >> I watched the talks from Cincom and Instantiations , and was somewhat surprised of the very short time they were given. They are sponsors of the event, and should imho get more time to promote their offerings. >> >> The talks from the vendors was biased towards existing customers, and I think that the vendors should be given a chance to promote the offerings; show their usp's, showcase their references, present licensing information, prices etc. etc. >> >> Basically allow them to give the sales pitch, they would normally use to impress a prospect. >> -- >> Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS >> Chief Software Architect >> (+45) 4029 2092 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

Sept. 15, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down?

by James Robertson

I will be processing and posting the videos soon. The raw videos aren't completely suitable for posting - for one thing, flash video won't work on iPhones/iPads, so it's useful to have more formats available. On Sep 15, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Jordi Delgado wrote: > So far everything has been recorded and streamed (yesterday room C sessions with very bad sound, sorry for that). > All videos have been downloaded by ESUG and James Robertson, so we guess they will be on-line really soon. > > We are really happy that you like our work. We'll try to keep it at this level until friday. Let's see... > > Bests, > > Jordi > > > > >> I am deeply impressed by the amount of work you guys are putting into this. Being able to see both the slides, the questions from the audience, and the speaker is really appreciated. >> >> Is it possible to catch the recordings from the previous sessions? Due to the parallel tracks I missed some that talks that looked interesting. >> >> -- >> Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS >> Chief Software Architect >> (+45) 4029 2092 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: stephane ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@gmail.com] >> Sent: 15. september 2010 15:02 >> To: Henrik Høyer >> Cc: ESUG Mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? >> >> your welcome :) >> Big thanks to Jordi and citilab crew >> >> On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Henrik Høyer wrote: >> >>> And now both are running - great!! >>> >>> Thanks a lot for the live feeds. This is absolutely great for those of us who aren't able to attend >>> >>> >>> <speoplelogo5af1.png> Henrik Høyer >>> Chief Software Architect >>> hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 >>> Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S >>> www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 >>> >>> >>> From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer >>> Sent: 15. september 2010 10:37 >>> To: ESUG Mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? >>> >>> Now the Scala-C is up and running, but Auditorio is still down L >>> >>> >>> <image001.png> >>> Henrik Høyer >>> Chief Software Architect >>> hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 >>> Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S >>> www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 >>> >>> >>> From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer >>> Sent: 15. september 2010 10:31 >>> To: ESUG Mailing list >>> Subject: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? >>> >>> >>> >>> <image001.png> >>> Henrik Høyer >>> Chief Software Architect >>> hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 >>> Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S >>> www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 15, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down?

by Jordi Delgado

So far everything has been recorded and streamed (yesterday room C sessions with very bad sound, sorry for that). All videos have been downloaded by ESUG and James Robertson, so we guess they will be on-line really soon. We are really happy that you like our work. We'll try to keep it at this level until friday. Let's see... Bests, Jordi > I am deeply impressed by the amount of work you guys are putting into this. Being able to see both the slides, the questions from the audience, and the speaker is really appreciated. > > Is it possible to catch the recordings from the previous sessions? Due to the parallel tracks I missed some that talks that looked interesting. > > -- > Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS > Chief Software Architect > (+45) 4029 2092 > -----Original Message----- > From: stephane ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@gmail.com] > Sent: 15. september 2010 15:02 > To: Henrik Høyer > Cc: ESUG Mailing list > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? > > your welcome :) > Big thanks to Jordi and citilab crew > > On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Henrik Høyer wrote: > > > And now both are running - great!! > > > > Thanks a lot for the live feeds. This is absolutely great for those of us who aren't able to attend > > > > > > <speoplelogo5af1.png> Henrik Høyer > > Chief Software Architect > > hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 > > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S > > www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 > > > > > > From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer > > Sent: 15. september 2010 10:37 > > To: ESUG Mailing list > > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? > > > > Now the Scala-C is up and running, but Auditorio is still down L > > > > > > <image001.png> > > Henrik Høyer > > Chief Software Architect > > hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 > > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S > > www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 > > > > > > From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer > > Sent: 15. september 2010 10:31 > > To: ESUG Mailing list > > Subject: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? > > > > > > > > <image001.png> > > Henrik Høyer > > Chief Software Architect > > hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 > > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S > > www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 15, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Thanks to ESUG and their sponsors

by stephane ducasse

all the vendors were given the same amount of time. And there are a lot of talk about their platforms in the program. Stef On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Henrik Høyer wrote: > Just my humble thoughts... > > I watched the talks from Cincom and Instantiations , and was somewhat surprised of the very short time they were given. They are sponsors of the event, and should imho get more time to promote their offerings. > > The talks from the vendors was biased towards existing customers, and I think that the vendors should be given a chance to promote the offerings; show their usp's, showcase their references, present licensing information, prices etc. etc. > > Basically allow them to give the sales pitch, they would normally use to impress a prospect. > -- > Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS > Chief Software Architect > (+45) 4029 2092 > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 15, 2010

Thanks to ESUG and their sponsors

by Henrik Høyer

Just my humble thoughts... I watched the talks from Cincom and Instantiations , and was somewhat surprised of the very short time they were given. They are sponsors of the event, and should imho get more time to promote their offerings. The talks from the vendors was biased towards existing customers, and I think that the vendors should be given a chance to promote the offerings; show their usp's, showcase their references, present licensing information, prices etc. etc. Basically allow them to give the sales pitch, they would normally use to impress a prospect. -- Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS Chief Software Architect (+45) 4029 2092

Sept. 15, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down?

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Joachim Tuchel wrote: > Hi, > > has anybody announced anything about recordings being available somewhere? They will be online... I guess the first ones tomorrow. (The bus for the social event leaves 16h, so no time today...) Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Sept. 15, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down?

by Henrik Høyer

I am deeply impressed by the amount of work you guys are putting into this. Being able to see both the slides, the questions from the audience, and the speaker is really appreciated. Is it possible to catch the recordings from the previous sessions? Due to the parallel tracks I missed some that talks that looked interesting. -- Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS Chief Software Architect (+45) 4029 2092 -----Original Message----- From: stephane ducasse [mailto:stephane.ducasse@gmail.com] Sent: 15. september 2010 15:02 To: Henrik Høyer Cc: ESUG Mailing list Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? your welcome :) Big thanks to Jordi and citilab crew On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Henrik Høyer wrote: > And now both are running - great!! > > Thanks a lot for the live feeds. This is absolutely great for those of us who aren't able to attend > > > <speoplelogo5af1.png> Henrik Høyer > Chief Software Architect > hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S > www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 > > > From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer > Sent: 15. september 2010 10:37 > To: ESUG Mailing list > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? > > Now the Scala-C is up and running, but Auditorio is still down L > > > <image001.png> > Henrik Høyer > Chief Software Architect > hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S > www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 > > > From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer > Sent: 15. september 2010 10:31 > To: ESUG Mailing list > Subject: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? > > > > <image001.png> > Henrik Høyer > Chief Software Architect > hh(a)sppl.dk * (+45) 4029 2092 > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 * 2300 Kbh. S > www.sPeople.dk * (+45) 7023 7775 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 15, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down?

by Joachim Tuchel

Hi, has anybody announced anything about recordings being available somewhere? Joachim Am 15.09.10 15:01, schrieb stephane ducasse: > your welcome :) > Big thanks to Jordi and citilab crew > > On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Henrik Høyer wrote: > >> And now both are running – great!! >> >> Thanks a lot for the live feeds. This is absolutely great for those of us who aren’t able to attend >> >> >> <speoplelogo5af1.png> Henrik Høyer >> Chief Software Architect >> hh(a)sppl.dk • (+45) 4029 2092 >> Rued Langgaards Vej 7 • 2300 Kbh. S >> www.sPeople.dk • (+45) 7023 7775 >> >> >> From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer >> Sent: 15. september 2010 10:37 >> To: ESUG Mailing list >> Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? >> >> Now the Scala-C is up and running, but Auditorio is still down L >> >> >> <image001.png> >> Henrik Høyer >> Chief Software Architect >> hh(a)sppl.dk • (+45) 4029 2092 >> Rued Langgaards Vej 7 • 2300 Kbh. S >> www.sPeople.dk • (+45) 7023 7775 >> >> >> From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer >> Sent: 15. september 2010 10:31 >> To: ESUG Mailing list >> Subject: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? >> >> >> >> <image001.png> >> Henrik Høyer >> Chief Software Architect >> hh(a)sppl.dk • (+45) 4029 2092 >> Rued Langgaards Vej 7 • 2300 Kbh. S >> www.sPeople.dk • (+45) 7023 7775 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

Sept. 15, 2010

Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down?

by stephane ducasse

your welcome :) Big thanks to Jordi and citilab crew On Sep 15, 2010, at 10:41 AM, Henrik Høyer wrote: > And now both are running – great!! > > Thanks a lot for the live feeds. This is absolutely great for those of us who aren’t able to attend > > > <speoplelogo5af1.png> Henrik Høyer > Chief Software Architect > hh(a)sppl.dk • (+45) 4029 2092 > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 • 2300 Kbh. S > www.sPeople.dk • (+45) 7023 7775 > > > From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer > Sent: 15. september 2010 10:37 > To: ESUG Mailing list > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? > > Now the Scala-C is up and running, but Auditorio is still down L > > > <image001.png> > Henrik Høyer > Chief Software Architect > hh(a)sppl.dk • (+45) 4029 2092 > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 • 2300 Kbh. S > www.sPeople.dk • (+45) 7023 7775 > > > From: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf OfHenrik Høyer > Sent: 15. september 2010 10:31 > To: ESUG Mailing list > Subject: [Esug-list] Is the live streaming down? > > > > <image001.png> > Henrik Høyer > Chief Software Architect > hh(a)sppl.dk • (+45) 4029 2092 > Rued Langgaards Vej 7 • 2300 Kbh. S > www.sPeople.dk • (+45) 7023 7775 > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Sept. 15, 2010