Hi Sport contributors Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT. And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know. Stef
Hi Stef, I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed. Best regards Janko Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
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thanks Janko :) On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@eranova.si> wrote:
Hi Stef,
I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed.
Best regards Janko
Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
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thanks Janko :)
On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@eranova.si> wrote:
Hi Stef,
I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed.
Best regards Janko
Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
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Hi guys, I hope we all agree now for MIT so I just changed Sport license on SqueakSource to MIT, so that now on both SqueakSource and SmalltalkHub Sport is MIT licensed: http://www.squeaksource.com/SPort.html http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Sport/Sport Note than there is only one Sport for both Squeak and Pharo and probably Cuis as well. Best regards Janko Dne 18. 07. 2013 16:05, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
thanks Janko :)
On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@eranova.si> wrote:
Hi Stef,
I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed.
Best regards Janko
Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
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On 23 July 2013 13:14, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@eranova.si> wrote:
Hi guys,
I hope we all agree now for MIT so I just changed Sport license on SqueakSource to MIT, so that now on both SqueakSource and SmalltalkHub Sport is MIT licensed:
http://www.squeaksource.com/SPort.html http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Sport/Sport
If I understand correctly, this might be a bit premature. I had to fill in a paper form declaring my agreement to the relicencing of Squeak, and I'm pretty sure Pharo had to do the same (because I had to fill in a similar form for Pharo). As I understand it, the Sport port folks need to compile a list of every contributor and get each contributor to formally agree to the relicencing. frank
Note than there is only one Sport for both Squeak and Pharo and probably Cuis as well.
Best regards Janko
Dne 18. 07. 2013 16:05, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
thanks Janko :)
On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@eranova.si> wrote:
Hi Stef,
I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed.
Best regards Janko
Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know.
I think that, in theory, mixing LGPL (which is much less strict than GPL) and MIT is authorized. Still, it is simpler if everything is of the same license, I agree. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill
Il 18/07/2013 12:19, Stéphane Ducasse ha scritto:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
I agree to MIT relicensing of all LGPL Smalltalk code I've ever written (_not_ GPL, that's another story). Paolo
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority of programmers understand or even know.
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing. Cheers Philippe
Thanks you all. This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news. Stef On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers Philippe
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Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport rather than using a dual license. Bruce On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Thanks you all. This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news.
Stef
On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall < philippe.marschall@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers Philippe
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Bruce, You write: “everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport”. This is the ESUG mailing list where Smalltalk Users of all dialects are participating. Thus I ask why is there the sub-phrase “just that for the Pharo implementation”? What is with all the other implementations? E.g. VisualWorks where the copyright says: “©Bruce Badger 2004, 2005, 2006. Licensed under the LGPL.” Georg Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 Wallstraße 22, 06366 Köthen Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 Von: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Bruce Badger Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juli 2013 10:08 An: Stéphane Ducasse Cc: esug-list@lists.esug.org Members Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport rather than using a dual license. Bruce On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote: Thanks you all. This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news. Stef On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall <philippe.marschall@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers Philippe
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why is there the sub-phrase “just that for the Pharo implementation”?
To be clear On 20 July 2013 11:43, Georg Heeg <georg@heeg.de> wrote:
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Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport rather than using a dual license.****
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Thanks you all. This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news.
Stef****
On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall < philippe.marschall@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers Philippe
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Bruce, How about MIT for the GemStone implementation? Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Bruce Badger" <bwbadger@gmail.com> | To: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> | Cc: "esug-list@lists.esug.org Members" <esug-list@lists.esug.org> | Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:08:07 AM | Subject: Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses | Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT | so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation | of Sport rather than using a dual license. | Bruce | On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr > | wrote: | | Thanks you all. | | | This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this | | is | | a good news. | | | Stef | | | On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall < | | philippe.marschall@gmail.com > wrote: | | | > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse | | | > < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr > wrote: | | | >> Hi Sport contributors | | | >> | | | >> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is | | >> a | | | >> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is | | >> because it | | | >> uses Sport and Sport is licensed under | | | >> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I | | >> asked | | >> Bruce if | | | >> Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here | | >> is | | >> his | | | >> answer: | | | >> | | | >> Steph, | | | >> | | | >> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with | | >> this | | >> in | | | >> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different | | >> dialects was | | | >> written by different people. | | | >> | | | >> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. | | | >> | | | >> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so | | >> that | | >> we can | | | >> get a dual license LGPL/MIT. | | | > | | | > Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing. | | | > | | | > Cheers | | | > Philippe | | | > | | | > _______________________________________________ | | | > Esug-list mailing list | | | > Esug-list@lists.esug.org | | | > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | | | _______________________________________________ | | | Esug-list mailing list | | | Esug-list@lists.esug.org | | | http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | | -- | Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills | http://www.openskills.org/ | _______________________________________________ | Esug-list mailing list | Esug-list@lists.esug.org | http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
Dale, I think that would be fine too. One of the aims of Sport is to be the ubiquitous surrogate for missing standardisation between dialects, and MIT does appear to be a better licensee if the objective is ubiquity. I think I'm the only author of the GemStone port, but perhaps you know of others and perhaps you've added some bits too? :-) So if you are sure that you know all contributors to GemStone Sport then we can say that it will join the Pharo port under the MIT license. The agreed forum for Sport was c.l.s so we should announce any proposed license changes there too. Bruce On 20 July 2013 12:39, Dale K. Henrichs <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com>wrote:
Bruce,
How about MIT for the GemStone implementation?
Dale
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Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport rather than using a dual license.
Bruce
On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Thanks you all. This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news.
Stef
On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall < philippe.marschall@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers Philippe
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Bruce, I will scan the commit history for GemStone Sport and contact the contributors and ask them to respond. Thanks, Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Bruce Badger" <bwbadger@gmail.com> | To: "Dale K. Henrichs" <dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com> | Cc: "esug-list@lists.esug.org Members" <esug-list@lists.esug.org>, | "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> | Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 4:53:02 AM | Subject: Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses | Dale, | I think that would be fine too. | One of the aims of Sport is to be the ubiquitous surrogate for | missing standardisation between dialects, and MIT does appear to be | a better licensee if the objective is ubiquity. | I think I'm the only author of the GemStone port, but perhaps you | know of others and perhaps you've added some bits too? :-) | So if you are sure that you know all contributors to GemStone Sport | then we can say that it will join the Pharo port under the MIT | license. | The agreed forum for Sport was c.l.s so we should announce any | proposed license changes there too. | Bruce | On 20 July 2013 12:39, Dale K. Henrichs < | dale.henrichs@gemtalksystems.com > wrote: | | Bruce, | | | How about MIT for the GemStone implementation? | | | Dale | | | | From: "Bruce Badger" < bwbadger@gmail.com > | | | | | | To: "Stéphane Ducasse" < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr > | | | | | | Cc: " esug-list@lists.esug.org Members" < | | | esug-list@lists.esug.org | | | > | | | | | | Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:08:07 AM | | | | | | Subject: Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses | | | | | | Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with | | | MIT | | | so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo | | | implementation | | | of Sport rather than using a dual license. | | | | | | Bruce | | | | | | On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse < | | | stephane.ducasse@inria.fr | | | > | | | wrote: | | | | | | | Thanks you all. | | | | | | | | | | This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and | | | | this | | | | is | | | | a good news. | | | | | | | | | | Stef | | | | | | | | | | On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall < | | | | philippe.marschall@gmail.com > wrote: | | | | | | | | | | > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse | | | | | | | | | | > < stephane.ducasse@inria.fr > wrote: | | | | | | | | | | >> Hi Sport contributors | | | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | | | >> Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there | | | | >> is | | | | >> a | | | | | | | | | | >> Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that | | | | >> this | | | | >> is | | | | >> because it | | | | | | | | | | >> uses Sport and Sport is licensed under | | | | | | | | | | >> LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I | | | | >> asked | | | | >> Bruce if | | | | | | | | | | >> Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL | | | | >> here | | | | >> is | | | | >> his | | | | | | | | | | >> answer: | | | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | | | >> Steph, | | | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | | | >> We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine | | | | >> with | | | | >> this | | | | >> in | | | | | | | | | | >> principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different | | | | >> dialects was | | | | | | | | | | >> written by different people. | | | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | | | >> Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity. | | | | | | | | | | >> | | | | | | | | | | >> So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail | | | | >> so | | | | >> that | | | | >> we can | | | | | | | | | | >> get a dual license LGPL/MIT. | | | | | | | | | | > | | | | | | | | | | > Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or | | | | > relicensing. | | | | | | | | | | > | | | | | | | | | | > Cheers | | | | | | | | | | > Philippe | | | | | | | | | | > | | | | | | | | | | > _______________________________________________ | | | | | | | | | | > Esug-list mailing list | | | | | | | | | | > Esug-list@lists.esug.org | | | | | | | | | | > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | | | | | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | | | | | Esug-list mailing list | | | | | | | | | | Esug-list@lists.esug.org | | | | | | | | | | http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | | | | | | | | | -- | | | | | | Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills | | | | | | http://www.openskills.org/ | | | | | | _______________________________________________ | | | | | | Esug-list mailing list | | | | | | Esug-list@lists.esug.org | | | | | | http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | | | | -- | Make the most of your skills - with OpenSkills | http://www.openskills.org/
participants (10)
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Bruce Badger -
Dale K. Henrichs -
Damien Cassou -
Frank Shearar -
Georg Heeg -
Janko Mivšek -
Leandro Caniglia -
Paolo Bonzini -
Philippe Marschall -
Stéphane Ducasse