On 7 Sep 2019, at 10:42, Andres Valloud <avalloud@smalltalk.comcastbiz.net> wrote:
On 9/6/19 23:24 , Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Now it would be nice to read his questions and reply to them and not just tell him “oh do not use concurrency”
I did not say that at all --- yet you are complaining to me :).
Not to you in particular. To everybody :)
The questions are essentially how do we test? how does concurrent programming fit in TDD.
A sharper and more open minded question might be "what is the best way to build reliable programs using concurrency flavor XYZ?”.
No you see you are interpreting the questions of Noury. Again and now this is you: why do you use “sharper” do you imply that the questions of noury were not sharp. :( The point of noury is what is the way to approach concurrency when doing TDD. Now how to build reliable …. Imagine that DrTDD should be extended to support concurrent programming. Then this is the question that we want to get answer. Stef
Stef
On 6 Sep 2019, at 02:32, Andres Valloud <avalloud@smalltalk.comcastbiz.net <mailto:avalloud@smalltalk.comcastbiz.net> <mailto:avalloud@smalltalk.comcastbiz.net <mailto:avalloud@smalltalk.comcastbiz.net>>> wrote:
TL; DR: generally, developing a good sense of what to do ***before writing a single line of code*** works really well.
On 9/4/19 6:32 , N. Bouraqadi wrote:
Hi everyone,
Can I get your input on the following questions :
- What are your best practices and recommendations for developing and testing concurrent software?
- How to discover need for synchronization/critical sections/ when doing TDD?
- How to write code to avoid dead-locks?
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