On 7 Sep 2019, at 10:42, Andres Valloud <avalloud@smalltalk.comcastbiz.net> wrote:

On 9/6/19 23:24 , St��phane Ducasse wrote:
Now it would be nice to read his questions and reply to them and not
just tell him ���oh do not use concurrency���

I did not say that at all --- yet you are complaining to me :).

Not to you in particular. To everybody :)

The questions are essentially how do we test? how does concurrent
programming fit in TDD.

A sharper and more open minded question might be "what is the best way 
to build reliable programs using concurrency flavor XYZ?���.

No you see you are interpreting the questions of Noury. 
Again and now this is you: why do you use ���sharper��� do you imply that the
questions of noury were not sharp. :(


The point of noury is what is the way to approach concurrency when doing TDD.
Now how to build reliable ���.

Imagine that DrTDD should be extended to support concurrent programming. 
Then this is the question that we want to get answer. 


Stef


Stef

On 6 Sep 2019, at 02:32, Andres Valloud
<avalloud@smalltalk.comcastbiz.net
<mailto:avalloud@smalltalk.comcastbiz.net>> wrote:

TL; DR: generally, developing a good sense of what to do ***before
writing a single line of code*** works really well.

On 9/4/19 6:32 , N. Bouraqadi wrote:
Hi everyone,

Can I get your input on the following questions :

- What are your best practices and recommendations for developing and
testing concurrent software?

- How to discover need for synchronization/critical sections/ when
doing TDD?

- How to write code to avoid dead-locks?

Thanks for your help,
Noury
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