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Plat_Forms 2011
by Joachim Tuchel Nov. 15, 2010

Nov. 15, 2010

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Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding?
by Carlos Crosetti Nov. 11, 2010

Nov. 11, 2010

I clicked the console button and is like stuck loading http;//.../lively.JSON.js ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carlos Crosetti" <carlos.crosetti(a)mostar.com.ar> To: "Paolo Bonzini" <bonzini(a)gnu.org>; "Dan Ingalls" <dan(a)squeakland.org> Cc: <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding? >I see the¨"loading" splashbox, it is taking more than 10 minutes from when >started, how much time it takes to load? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paolo Bonzini" <bonzini(a)gnu.org> > To: "Dan Ingalls" <dan(a)squeakland.org> > Cc: <esug-list(a)lists.esug.org> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:48 PM > Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Is he kidding? > > >> On 10/31/2010 11:32 PM, Dan Ingalls wrote: >>> http://lively-kernel.org/repository/webwerkstatt/Dan/OMeta-Smalltalk-Demo.x… >> >> Doesn't load in Firefox 3.6 (pistons spin forever), crashes the browser >> in Epiphany (WebKit-based). :( >> >> Paolo >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >

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looking for Frank urbach
by Stéphane Ducasse Nov. 7, 2010

Nov. 7, 2010

Hi frank could you contact me? because we would like to get access to ODBC on squeaksource. Stef

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Re: [Esug-list] GSoC Mentor Summit Travel
by Marcus Denker Nov. 1, 2010

Nov. 1, 2010

On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Dennis Schetinin wrote: > Hi all! > > Whom should I send my travel bills to? > Best is board(a)esug.org Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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GSoC Mentor Summit Travel
by Dennis Schetinin Nov. 1, 2010

Nov. 1, 2010

Hi all! Whom should I send my travel bills to? -- Dennis Schetinin

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Few thoughts about Google Summer of Code
by Dennis Schetinin Nov. 1, 2010

Nov. 1, 2010

… and observations …and questions … mostly inspired by GSoC Mentor Summit 1. Mentor Summit was a great event! I didn't expect it to be THIS :) Very pleasant …and very hard for me: so many people, language and culture shock :) Great experience for me personally. Thank ESUG for choosing and sending me there. 2. Bad news: Smalltalk is not popular. Well, it's not that new actually, we know it. But I didn't manage to fix it :) Seriously: actually, it looks like everybody knows Smalltalk (they know it existed I mean; few knows it still exists), but it is treated like a black and white movie. People say "wow! it's cool" and go to see Avatar. :( So developers don't take Smalltalk seriously. We (Smalltalkers) know it's a mistake. But we have to show that for others. And I found myself unable to do that there. I found language and, more likely, culture barrier is too big to overcome. I didn't manage to set up a two-way communication with others. So I listened mostly. 3. And I've heard many interesting ideas… apparently, organizational ideas mostly. I need some time to process them. So, for now I'll just outline some directions… 4. Did we summarize our GSoC results? I thought I've missed them, but apparently we didn't do it. At least I found only this page http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2010-esug/downloads/list. I didn't care much before, but now I think it is very important to look closer at the projects we did within GSoC, understand where we succeeded; where we failed; did we benefit and could we get more; make some plans for the future... etc. 5. I think we should pay more attention to GSoC. It is very important for our small society. Of course, we can't be sure smalltalkers will be invited again next year. (One of the things I tried to understand at summit but still I don't: how does Google select mentor organizations?) But this work will be very helpful, useful, advantageous… what ever. 6. We should be more serious about monitoring and controlling our projects. Since money are involved here, we have a right to. That's money from Google, but still. I think it should be a bit different from the way free projects are evolved within Smalltalk society. Since we have such opportunity we have to benefit as much as we can. 7. Smalltalk gives me competitive advantages. For that matter I don't want to :) but now I understand even better: we have to promote Smalltalk. I know everybody knows that, but I still want to state it once again. And promoting is not only about advertising and praising. We should be more open. We should find a way to start some cooperative projects with other societies/languages. I don't know how to do it. And it's extremely hard for me as I believe in Smalltalk superiority :) But still we have if we don't want Smalltalk to die. In general, it looks like making Smalltalk more open should be our priority, and this is one of the few ways to enhance prestige of Smalltalk among developers. -- Dennis Schetinin

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Re: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service?
by Mirko Kiefer Oct. 31, 2010

Oct. 31, 2010

Stephane, I haven't looked at the cloudfork code in detail but I'm sure you can reuse the generic part of setting up the communication. All Amazon Web Services communicate in the same way - its basically about signing your requests with an HMAC signature using your secret access-token. Each API then defines certain query parameters. To do your ISBN queries you can have a look here: http://docs.amazonwebservices.com/AWSECommerceService/latest/DG/index.html?… You will just need to supply the parameters IdType=ISBN and ItemId for the actual ISBN. Depending of the amount or kind of information you want to get you can specifiy certain "ResponseGroups" in the request e.g. "Large" or "Medium". Hope that helps. Mirko On 10/31/10 6:27 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks mirko > I will read that ;) > Like that I can learn something. Did you check cloudfork? do you know if there are some services communication I could reuse? > > Stef > > On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:13 PM, Mirko Kiefer wrote: > >> Hi Stephane, >> >> I wrote a simple client for the Amazon Web Services in Node.js that allows you to do this kind of queries. >> The implementation is quite straightforward - porting it to Smalltalk shouldn't be much work. >> http://github.com/mirkok/Node-AWS >> >> Mirko >> >> On 10/31/10 5:51 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >>> Hi guys >>> >>> I would like to get book information from an ISBN and I would like to query amazon. >>> Does any of you an experience with that and some pointers? >>> >>> Stef >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

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Re: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service?
by Stéphane Ducasse Oct. 31, 2010

Oct. 31, 2010

Thanks! I will have a look now. On Oct 31, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Georg Heeg wrote: > Stef, > > One of the initial seaBreeze examples we showed at ESUg in Amsterdam. The > demo still is part of seaBreeze one-click image. Just download seaBreeze > from seaBreeze.heeg.de and have a look. > > Georg > > Georg Heeg eK, Dortmund und Köthen, HR Dortmund A 12812 > Tel. +49-3496-214328, Fax +49-3496-214712 > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: esug-list-bounces(a)lists.esug.org > [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse > Gesendet: Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010 17:52 > An: ESUG Mailing list > Betreff: [Esug-list] How to query Amazon information via a web service? > > Hi guys > > I would like to get book information from an ISBN and I would like to query > amazon. > Does any of you an experience with that and some pointers? > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > >

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How to query Amazon information via a web service?
by Stéphane Ducasse Oct. 31, 2010

Oct. 31, 2010

Hi guys I would like to get book information from an ISBN and I would like to query amazon. Does any of you an experience with that and some pointers? Stef

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Re: [Esug-list] Few thoughts about Google Summer of Code
by mkobetic＠cincom.com Oct. 29, 2010

Oct. 29, 2010

"Paolo Bonzini"<bonzini(a)gnu.org> wrote: > It's definitely a step towards that, though. Does your experience with > CVST suggest that it's better to do both steps at the same time? Fair enough, but I would hope that whatever solution is chosen, it is open towards eventually being able to support cross-dialect projects. > I would be worried that including in an "initial battle plan" an > editor-friendly syntax would lead to endless discussions and no code > produced. Yes, but I'm more worried about "real" vs "fake" integration, than I am about particulars of a syntax. With fake integration all you'll get with git is push, pull and commit, leaving all the rest of the capabilities behind. That will not make us a good team player.

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