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Esug'10 videos down?
by Bernat Romagosa April 10, 2011

April 10, 2011

Hi guys, http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/ is 404'd, is there somewhere else one can find all videos from ESUG 2010? At James Robertson's site and vimeo there are some missing. Thanks! Bernat Romagosa.

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Fwd: [Seaside] Should I become a Seasider? (spreading smalltalk)
by Dale Henrichs April 10, 2011

April 10, 2011

For those who don't subscribe to the Seaside mailing list, read Pat's response at the bottom of the message ... Pat is a well-known and respected ruby on rails developer. He earns his living in ruby, but chooses Smalltalk to start his own business ... Pat isn't the first rubyist to find Smalltalk a better and more productive environment for doing development and he won't be the last... Dale Begin forwarded message: From: Pat Maddox <patmaddox(a)me.com<mailto:patmaddox@me.com>> Date: April 9, 2011 9:06:02 PM PDT To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org<mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org>> Subject: Re: [Seaside] Should I become a Seasider? Reply-To: Seaside - general discussion <seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org<mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org>> On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Ralph Boland wrote: This post is about making a living as a web developer using Seaside. I am an unemployed software developer in Calgary (1,000,000 people), Alberta, Canada. I have used Squeak for years but I have found no Smalltalk work in Calgary and in fact know of only one small company in Calgary that uses Smalltalk. I know very little about Seaside. My impression is that websites developed using Seaside are somewhat slower than with other web development tools and that Seaside uses more memory (I assume on the server side) than other web development tools. Nevertheless there are web developers using Seaside successfully. Are these impressions correct? What I am wondering is should I learn Seaside and then attempt to sell my web development services in Calgary? My impression is that: 1) No one in Calgary has ever heard of Seaside so selling my services would be difficult. 2) Since I should be able to develop web sites faster using Seaside I should be able to offer my services at a discount and hopefully be able to find business that way. But since no one but myself (at least locally) would be able to maintain the web sites, potential customers are going to be very shy. Are these impressions correct? Lets assume I decide to become a web developer (something I know almost nothing about) using Seaside as my competitive edge. To my knowledge I would be the only Seaside web developer in Calgary. 1) How long (starting basically from scratch) is it going to take before I am competent; or at least competent enough to seek clients? Assume I am a competent Squeak developer. 2) Which version(s) of Smalltalk should I use? I know Squeak and have used Visualworks in the distant past. 3) How screwed will my clients be if my ticker stops unexpectedly. Can Seaside developers from outside Calgary pick up the slack for my hypothetical clients? 4) Is there any areas within the web development would that I should concentrate on or avoid? 5) Is there any additional software/hardware that I would need other than my home computer (running Ubuntu) and Squeak/Seaside? My resources for investments is very limited. Are there other questions that I should have asked? Starting a business is generally a tough deal so please don't butter me up with glowing reviews of Seaside. My suggestion is to learn Seaside and use it to build side projects of your own. You've probably got some ideas, and Seaside is the way to go there. The IDE (Pharo) + components + continuations combine to blow everything else out of the water. I say this as a pretty sharp Rails developer - nothing even comes close to development speed in Seaside. That's a big advantage. It gives you free license to experiment with ideas. Also, because everything is smalltalk code and everything is an object, you have a much more flexible, understandable system. Right now I've got some beta users who can benefit from features that probably wouldn't be useful to anyone else...normally I'd say, "Sorry, I'm not building that," but considering that I can build a little component in less than an hour, and plug it in only for their account, it's worth it to me to do it. I haven't been doing this for long, but I'm comfortable customizing a lot more of my app for certain customers, because it's just so easy to do. I'm using Seaside to build my startup projects because it's a huge technical advantage. I earn money right now by doing contract work, and as much as I'd love to use Seaside in those gigs, I feel like that would be screwing over my clients. They're going to have a hell of a time finding someone to maintain it when I leave. Building a business of any sort is challenging enough, as you may already know and are definitely about to find out. Don't compound the headaches by throwing a niche technology like Seaside into the mix. Pat_______________________________________________ seaside mailing list seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org<mailto:seaside@lists.squeakfoundation.org> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside

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Re: [Esug-list] Esug'10 videos down?
by Marcus Denker April 10, 2011

April 10, 2011

On Apr 10, 2011, at 8:25 PM, Bernat Romagosa wrote: > Hi guys, > > http://esug2010.objectfusion.fr/ is 404'd, is there somewhere else one can find all videos from ESUG 2010? At James Robertson's site and vimeo there are some missing. > > Everything is in the archive: http://esug.org/data/ESUG2010/ mostly .flv raw files, I copied James' vimeo files, too. I am sure the objectfusion.fr page was omited because of the updated website... they have now an english one: http://www.objectfusion.fr/en/index.html I am sure they will restore it when the dust settles. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

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'spreading smalltalk'
by Jean Marshall and Andy Berry April 9, 2011

April 9, 2011

Hi! Here's an article I wrote 'a few weeks ago' :-) on why I chose Smalltalk: http://www.tof.co.uk/stories/page14.html Hope it's positive enough! Regards, Andy

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Spreading Smalltalk
by Sean P. DeNigris April 9, 2011

April 9, 2011

If you have something important to share with the world (like Smalltalk, for example), check out this TED talk. http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html Two great things I took away: * people buy what you believe, not what you do - it seems that often Smalltalk is marketed on the "what" e.g. developer productivity, platform-independence; his example about TiVo shows the folly in this course * how do we get the 8% to go from the 10% market penetration of true believers to the 18% tipping point of dominance? In service, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spreading-Smalltalk-tp3435227p3435227.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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[ANN] Pharo Release 1.2.1
by Adrian Lienhard April 7, 2011

April 7, 2011

The Pharo Project is proud to announce the release of Pharo 1.2.1, the third major release of this clean, innovative, open-source Smalltalk environment. Static URL for this ANN: http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download/release-1-2-1 French translation: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Pharo12FrenchAnnouncement * Update #12345 On Tuesday, March 29th 2011, update #12345 was issued to Pharo's 1.2 development line, a line that started back in June 2010 and was frozen in January 2011. Next, Pharo's continuous integration machinery successfully started building various artifacts based on this 'Pharo Core 1.2', the most important one being 'Pharo 1.2' proper, the full featured development image. Pharo Core 1.2.1 passes 7.836 unit tests, Pharo 1.2.1 no less than 10.760. A large, international community of developers worked hard for several months to iron out all problems and to make Pharo compatible with various Smalltalk libraries and frameworks, among them Seaside 3.0.3 which passes its 1.599 tests. * Pharo Core Changes True to the Pharo philosophy, this release contains numerous small changes, refactorings, cleanups and bugfixes improving the overall quality. Important changes include: – Cleaned the Pluggable hierarchy – Added new undo framework – Cleaned Morph and PasteUpMorph – Added DummyUIManager, a UIManager for operating without a UI – Added NewTextMorph – Removed left overs from MVC: PopUpMenu, SelectionMenu and CustomMenu – Cleaned Utilities, Preferences and TheWorldMenu – Included SimpleMorphic preview – Removing empty classes – Added new TextEditor and SmalltalkEditor – Added new, clean and simple Glamorous, Glamorous Orange GUI Themes – Added new Pro GUI Theme – Added Cog compliant behavior – Added better blocks debugging – Better support for separating SmalltalkImage and SystemDictionary – Fixed package dependencies, providing a good platform for kernel images – Removed old JIT experiments – Migrated to MethodReferenceWithSource and friends – Added more pages under the Help system – Improved the number of commented classes – New Finder tool (replacing Messages Names and Method Finder) – New Recent Changes tool (replacing Recent Submissions) – Improved SpaceTally – Fixed pointer finders tools – Integrated SUnit 4 Started Continuous Integration: use Hudson/Jenkins to automatically build images, run tests, and compile VMs For the Core 1.2 Image development line, 693 issues were resolved. * Pharo Changes The full featured Pharo development image is built automatically by loading the Metacello configuration aptly called ConfigurationOfPharo. Important changes include: – Updated to latest Metacello and all configurations used to use symbolic versions – New tools: Metacello Configuration Browser, Memory Monitor, and Autotest – Updated versions of Shout, RoelTyper, OCompletion, OmniBrowser, AutomaticMethodCategorizer, RefactoringBrowsers, Nile, ProfStef – Added XML-Support, and more Help – Removed NewInspector For the Full Dev 1.2 Image development line, 57 issues were resolved. * Downloads: see http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download * Success Stories Pharo has a large user base spread all over the world. Hence there is a growing collection of success stories (www.pharo-project.org/about/success-stories) projects using Pharo that choose to go public with this. Recently, the following were added: DrGeo - an award winning interactive geometry application also used for teaching primary and secondary level students Issys Tracking - a workflow platform to support authorization procedures for the medical practice for a large social organization/health insurance in Argentina Inceptive's Custom ERP - an application for the event planning and resource management administration of a large cultural centre in Flanders __________________________ www.adrian-lienhard.ch twitter.com/adrianlienhard

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MacOSX 10.6.7 & ODBC & VW7.7+
by Vojtěch Merunka April 3, 2011

April 3, 2011

Dear Smalltalkers, I have trouble with ODBC connectivity on Mac having VWNC. Visualworks prompts "Driver could not be loaded.". All necessary libraries are correctly installed and ODBC works well with other applicactions. Any help, please? thanks V.M. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *assoc. prof. Vojtěch Merunka, Ph.D.* vmerunka(a)gmail.com <mailto:vmerunka@gmail.com> http://sites.google.com/site/vmerunka *Department of Information Engineering* /Faculty of Economics and Management/ Czech University of Life Sciences in Prague *Department of Software Engineering in Economy* /Faculty of Nuclear Sciences and Physical Engineering/ Czech Technical University in Prague ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Smalltalk hosting ...
by Geert Claes April 2, 2011

April 2, 2011

Smalltalk does have open source blog and content management systems; e.g. http://www.piercms.com Pier CMS and http://www.aidaweb.si/scribo.html AIDAscribo ... but a lot can be improved to make them attractive alternatives to the big http://www.drupal.org Drupal (PHP) and http://www.joomla.org Joomla (PHP) or even smaller ones like http://radiantcms.org Radiant CMS (Ruby) , http://www.refinerycms.com Refinery CMS (Ruby) , http://www.django-cms.org Django CMS (Python) , etc Smalltalk will get more exposure if it were easier (and cheaper) for people to host their own blog or website using a Smalltalk based Blog/CMS. Question is; what can be done to have more Smalltalkers use a Smalltalk based blog system and attract non-Smalltalkers to try a Smalltalk CMS? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-hosting-tp3384077p3384077.html Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk hosting ...
by Юрий Мироненко March 30, 2011

March 30, 2011

> do you have any more info on smallPOS? > Giorgio Ferraris > Excellent > do you have a web presence? > Stef Well, only very basic presence are here: http://code.google.com/p/smalltalkpos/ for issue tracker and for static files, needed for work http://squeaksource.com/SmallPOS.html for code itself http://rsug.ru/rsugProjects/SmallPOS/ - page about my project at Russian Smalltalk Users Group. But it on russian, as you may expect. Actually, it's now something to support my development, not to promote/demonstrate the system. Wiki on squeaksource and one of subpages have some installation/deployment instruction, but they are not very usefull for others - I just collect this information to not forget it. Some time ago there was a live demo on RSUG, but now it is VERY outdated, actual system is absolutely different. Well, I working on this, smallpos.ru domen was registered. I started to write documentation. And I feel I need some demo application, but I have no idea for "cool" one. It should be something with easy-to-understand business process, it should be possible to demonstrate cool features and deep customizing...and, contrary, it should be possible to start it from very basic CRUD functionality. If you have an idea for such a demo - please tell me :) Giorgio, now - some brief description, if it's something you asking for.

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Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk hosting ...
by Юрий Мироненко March 28, 2011

March 28, 2011

Well, just to avoid talking-and-not-doing feeling... I made/making SmallPOS framework, Pharo\Seaside\GLORP\Magritte-based. Initially oriented on small businesses with not-standart business processes, it provides possibility for really fast prototyping...and, for example, connecting hardware (like label printers and barcode scanners) on client side. Now I want to see how opensource development model may work. So, I'll do my best to present it on ESUG conference...if I'll successed with visa this year. Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:09:20 +0200 письмо от Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > Thanks sean. > > We are always trying to improve ourselves and we accept and value criticism. > Now there are moments where I would like to see more doing than talking. > > Stef > > > Steven and Andrew, > > > > Thank you for taking the time to point out where things can be improved. > > > > I propose that all criticism - right, wrong, good, bad, whatever - be > > answered in the same way: "Thank you." > > > > I personally am grateful for the HUGE amount of work done by the ESUG, > > Squeak & Pharo teams. And, I'm sure it can be demoralizing to be one of the > > people putting in all that effort (probably for free) and hear criticism. > > > > That having been said, I cringe every time criticism is met with resistance, > > frustration, or defensiveness. Criticism is solid gold - all of it. It is a > > wake-up call to how our community is perceived from the outside. The truth > > doesn't matter! It's all about perception. I think it would be far more > > valuable to pull in as much criticism as possible than to explain it away > > point by point. Let's give critics water and sunlight to flourish on our > > mailing lists and smack us awake, rather than throw up their hands and move > > silently to a different language/community. > > > > Of course, after the "thank you", relevant info like "such and such has been > > fixed" or "an engineer would really help move things along here" would be > > great, resting on a foundation of acknowledgement and gratitude that someone > > took the time to reach out instead of disappearing or gossiping, providing a > > service to the community. > > > > Sean > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-hosting-tp3384077p3407992.html > > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

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