[Esug-list] Smalltalk dialects and GSoC

Nowak, Helge HNowak at cincom.com
Tue Feb 11 11:29:51 EST 2014

or would anybody seriously want to deny a Java/C#/Ruby/PHP/Cobol/youNameIt-to-Smalltalk converter written in Smalltalk from GSoC?


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces at lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Paolo Bonzini
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Februar 2014 17:14
An: Igor Stasenko; Göran Krampe
Cc: ESUG Mailing list; Pharo Development List; Squeak
Betreff: [Esug-list] Smalltalk dialects and GSoC

Il 11/02/2014 16:43, Igor Stasenko ha scritto:
> Nothing philosophical here.
> Pharo, Amber are smalltalk dialects. Newspeak is not. It is brand new 
> language.
> Different syntax, different semantics.
> The fact that it uses VM which can run smalltalk doesn't makes any 
> difference.
> There's a number of Smalltalks impemented on top of JVM, and CLR platforms.
> Following your logic, then such implementations should be eligible to 
> run under 'java/C# GSoC umbrella'?

I think a Newspeak<->Smalltalk translator, written in Smalltalk, would be eligible for GSoC under the ESUG organization.

If it were to be written in Newspeak, I would still want to have it in the ideas list.  Perhaps the student itself could propose to use Smalltalk instead, or it could be a backup in case we lose a student due to conflicts with other organizations.  However, the chances for it to get into the program would be slimmer.


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