[Esug-list] Moving on with GSOC2014?

Johan Fabry jfabry at dcc.uchile.cl
Sat Feb 8 14:12:55 EST 2014


+1 on all this.

On Feb 8, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Sean DeNigris <sean at clipperadams.com> wrote:

> I think "Moving On" is the perfect subject. This debate is surreal - creating issues and drama out of thin air. While it's a great demonstration of the passion we all have for Smalltalk, there seems to be some real damage being done.
> 
> Bottom Line: I agree that it is too late to change anything for this year.
> 
> And when we do discuss it, let's take a big step back. The two issues Janko raised were:
> - "Smalltalk" as a name may be better received by students
> - Within the Smalltalk community, there is perceived bias of ESUG toward Pharo
> 
> Let's take them one at a time:
> 
> =="Smalltalk" as a name may be better received by students==
> 1. Are we having trouble finding quality students now? If so, it pays to discuss. But if we are happy with the current results, IIABDFI
> 2. If we need to improve, is this particular improvement worth risking:
> - the possibility that the continuity of ESUG may have helped our acceptance by Google
> - the tremendous resources, whether time/energy/financial, put in by ESUG
> 
> ==Within the Smalltalk community, there is perceived bias of ESUG toward Pharo==
> There's really only one thing to say about this. As it stands now, there is one person's perception of other people's perception. While as Smalltalkers, we can all appreciate the meta-ness of that ;), if such a perception exists, let those who perceive it stand up and give some evidence.
> 
> Let's focus on the facts, make the best decision for our community, and get back to work.
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