Jan Vrany wrote:

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On 10/29/2010 01:36 PM, Steven Kelly wrote:

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Which Smalltalks (+/- add-on projects) have code in class files, interface with standard VCS

Smalltalk/X supports CVS and SubVersion.

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and yet still have an image-based, GUI IDE?

Smalltalk/X for instance :-)

Thanks! But to return to my criteria: 1) what everybody else is using 2) what seems familiar to them 3) what is cool 4) what is good Even in the Smalltalk community, Smalltalk/X isn't 1). And looking at the web pages, with not even a single picture of the IDE or Smalltalk/X applications on the Products > Smalltalk/X pages, it may find itself in pretty big trouble on 3). That's a real shame, in an era when even one-person companies and research projects have smart videos showing off their products. Particularly since from what I hear, Smalltalk/X does pretty well on 4). Sorry if that sounds harsh - I do understand the other side of the coin, i.e. that there's hardly any money to be made by selling software development environments these days. Good luck to eXept with expecco, which I guess is what they focus on now. Steve