Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk lecture in Africa
Dear Stef, what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel? Cheers Helge -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40 An: Stéphane Ducasse Cc: ESUG Mailing list Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message: ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture. Stef _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list@lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
Dear Stef,
what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it?
A starter and a bit more advanced lecture: like the ones I did at Timisoara and Turino or Alex did in another city in Romania. Check my lectures website. I also did one in switzerland in the past in a fachhoschule. And the idea is that we give also the lecture material so that people can redo after us the lecture.
Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel?
Not really for now. Note that we do not pay the lecture. So in my case I always did the lecture for free. ESUG payed some of the trip expenses and my team budget often participated to the rest. Stef
Cheers Helge
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40 An: Stéphane Ducasse Cc: ESUG Mailing list Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium
BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message:
ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture.
Stef _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list@lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
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BTW note that this was probably a mistake to do all this work and the lectures for free. Because at the end this does not count. This is the same for the books I wrote. May be I'm too stupid and I should work on something else. When I see how people react when we talk about participating to the pharo consortium for about 4000 K and when I see the amount of time we spent pushing smalltalk and helping this community, this makes me really think. After all may be aiming for a better system is not good, I should have just run after money. I think that now with JavaScript dynamic languages will be really changing the world and Smalltalk does not look in the picture. Stef On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Nowak, Helge wrote:
Dear Stef,
what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel?
Cheers Helge
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40 An: Stéphane Ducasse Cc: ESUG Mailing list Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium
BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message:
ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture.
Stef _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list@lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
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Stef, It was C++ in the 80's and early 90's ... then java ... then ruby ... now javascript:) You're not doing it for the money:) ... you're not doing it for the fame and glory:) ... you're doing it because it is your passion! Keep up the good work and follow your passion... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> | To: "Helge Nowak" <hnowak@cincom.com> | Cc: "ESUG Mailing list" <esug-list@lists.esug.org> | Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:26:11 PM | Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk lecture in Africa | | BTW note that this was probably a mistake to do all this work and the | lectures for free. | Because at the end this does not count. | This is the same for the books I wrote. May be I'm too stupid and I | should work on something | else. | | When I see how people react when we talk about participating to the | pharo consortium for about 4000 K and when | I see the amount of time we spent pushing smalltalk and helping this | community, this makes me really think. | After all may be aiming for a better system is not good, I should | have just run after money. | I think that now with JavaScript dynamic languages will be really | changing the world and Smalltalk does not | look in the picture. | | Stef | | | | On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Nowak, Helge wrote: | | > Dear Stef, | > | > what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, | > are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the | > travel? | > | > Cheers | > Helge | > | > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- | > Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org | > [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane | > Ducasse | > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40 | > An: Stéphane Ducasse | > Cc: ESUG Mailing list | > Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo | > Consortium | > | > BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take | > the advantage to get the following message: | > | > ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you | > happened to know good university that would be interested we would | > like to sponsor a lecture. | > | > Stef | > _______________________________________________ | > Esug-list mailing list | > Esug-list@lists.esug.org | > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Esug-list mailing list | > Esug-list@lists.esug.org | > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | | | _______________________________________________ | Esug-list mailing list | Esug-list@lists.esug.org | http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org |
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