Fwd: ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium
Let's make it clear.. A project X, which is a smalltalk-based project bootstrapping a consortium and inviting all organizations/individuals who want to participate. Question 1: what is a logical reaction from ESUG should be, which mission is to support and popularize smalltalk? Question 2: if you replace X with 'Pharo', how this changing the situation? -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 15:57:28 +0200 Von: Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> An: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list@lists.esug.org> Betreff: [Esug-list] Fwd: ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium
Let's make it clear..
A project X, which is a smalltalk-based project bootstrapping a consortium and inviting all organizations/individuals who want to participate.
Question 1: what is a logical reaction from ESUG should be, which mission is to support and popularize smalltalk?
My understanding of the situation is that the question isn't "if", the question is "how". I haven't seen anyone saying anything about ESUG not supporting Pharo. The question that was asked is: "Should ESUG join the Pharo consortium and pay a perpetual fee of EUR XXXX per year"?
Question 2: if you replace X with 'Pharo', how this changing the situation?
Not at all. It's still about the "how", not the "if". Cheers, - Andreas
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
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On 6 July 2012 18:45, Andreas Raab <Andreas.Raab@gmx.de> wrote:
-------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 15:57:28 +0200 Von: Igor Stasenko <siguctua@gmail.com> An: ESUG Mailing list <esug-list@lists.esug.org> Betreff: [Esug-list] Fwd: ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium
Let's make it clear..
A project X, which is a smalltalk-based project bootstrapping a consortium and inviting all organizations/individuals who want to participate.
Question 1: what is a logical reaction from ESUG should be, which mission is to support and popularize smalltalk?
My understanding of the situation is that the question isn't "if", the question is "how". I haven't seen anyone saying anything about ESUG not supporting Pharo. The question that was asked is: "Should ESUG join the Pharo consortium and pay a perpetual fee of EUR XXXX per year"?
To my thinking ESUG should participate at bootstrapping stage (which happens right now) to help giving it enough momentum. And this is right and absolutely in spirit of ESUG mission. Sponsoring consortium by ESUG on a perpetual basis, makes little sense, as to me, because if we figure that it doesn't flies, no help from ESUG alone could make it fly.. and spending money on it would be just a waste. I don't know, of course, what ESUG board members thinking about it.. it is just my guess.
Question 2: if you replace X with 'Pharo', how this changing the situation?
Not at all. It's still about the "how", not the "if".
Cheers, - Andreas
-- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.
On 2012-Jul-6, at 13:30 , Igor Stasenko wrote:
To my thinking ESUG should participate at bootstrapping stage (which happens right now) to help giving it enough momentum. And this is right and absolutely in spirit of ESUG mission.
Sponsoring consortium by ESUG on a perpetual basis, makes little sense, as to me, because if we figure that it doesn't flies, no help from ESUG alone could make it fly.. and spending money on it would be just a waste.
That certainly makes sense to me. So perhaps a 1 or 2 year commitment. Not at the top level, but at a level that shows support. ../Dave
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