Re: [Esug-list] Stack Overflow developer survey is now open! -action requested
Alternatively Stef, it tells us "nothing good" about mind-share of Smalltalks out there in the real world. The current mindshare of Pharo is on a par with Lasso. The mindshare of all Smalltalks is on a par with Julia or Objective C++ Commercial take-up is highly correlated with mindshare. At some point, we need to address the mindshare issue directly, rather than pretending it is irrelevant. One of the models of tech uptake has a path that runs: contains Development Dismissal Disappearance If we're not even visible enough to have questionnaire's reflect our approach, this is not a good sign. I don't think it necessarily reflects poorly on the questionnaire's authors. Regards, Euan Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:12:32 +0100 From: stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com>
When I that behavior it tells me nothing good about the ?survey?
Stef
On 25 Jan 2016, at 20:05, Steven Kelly <stevek@metacase.com> wrote:
Darn, too slow: ?This survey is currently closed. Please contact the author of this survey for further assistance.? Steve
From: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf Of Thomas, Arden Sent: 25 January 2016 19:46 To: esug-list@lists.esug.org Subject: [Esug-list] Stack Overflow developer survey is now open! -action requested Importance: High
Dear Cincom Smalltalkers, Smalltalkers;
Last year at ESUG I noted that Smalltalk was not represented as a language on the Stack Overflow developer survey.
Smalltalk is a powerful language that is still unsurpassed in many ways. A new generation of developers may have never heard of it!
I made it an action item to notify Smalltalk developers, customers and community, when the survey was open, so we could collectively address this oversight.
The Stack Overflow developer survey is now open!
Question #9 & #10 on the second page asks about what language you use or want to use.
I filled in "Smalltalk". Later on it asks which environment you work in.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/so-2016
NOTE: Please fill-out as soon as possible as the survey will only be open for a short time and could close imminently.
https://www.facebook.com/cincomsmalltalk/posts/10153340529408365?comment_id=...
Regards Arden Thomas
Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager
Arden Thomas Cincom Smalltalk STAR Team and Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager
CINCOM SYSTEMS, INC. 55 Merchant Street Cincinnati, OH 45246
office
website email
513-612-2300
http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com athomas@cincom.com
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When we cannot participate to a survey because the period is too short then I’m sorry but this is a crappy survey and I know because we run surveys.
Alternatively Stef, it tells us "nothing good" about mind-share of Smalltalks out there in the real world.
The current mindshare of Pharo is on a par with Lasso. The mindshare of all Smalltalks is on a par with Julia or Objective C++
Commercial take-up is highly correlated with mindshare.
At some point, we need to address the mindshare issue directly, rather than pretending it is irrelevant.
One of the models of tech uptake has a path that runs: contains Development Dismissal Disappearance
If we're not even visible enough to have questionnaire's reflect our approach, this is not a good sign. I don't think it necessarily reflects poorly on the questionnaire's authors.
Regards, Euan
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 08:12:32 +0100 From: stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com>
When I that behavior it tells me nothing good about the ?survey?
Stef
On 25 Jan 2016, at 20:05, Steven Kelly <stevek@metacase.com> wrote:
Darn, too slow: ?This survey is currently closed. Please contact the author of this survey for further assistance.? Steve
From: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] On Behalf Of Thomas, Arden Sent: 25 January 2016 19:46 To: esug-list@lists.esug.org Subject: [Esug-list] Stack Overflow developer survey is now open! -action requested Importance: High
Dear Cincom Smalltalkers, Smalltalkers;
Last year at ESUG I noted that Smalltalk was not represented as a language on the Stack Overflow developer survey.
Smalltalk is a powerful language that is still unsurpassed in many ways. A new generation of developers may have never heard of it!
I made it an action item to notify Smalltalk developers, customers and community, when the survey was open, so we could collectively address this oversight.
The Stack Overflow developer survey is now open!
Question #9 & #10 on the second page asks about what language you use or want to use.
I filled in "Smalltalk". Later on it asks which environment you work in.
https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/so-2016
NOTE: Please fill-out as soon as possible as the survey will only be open for a short time and could close imminently.
https://www.facebook.com/cincomsmalltalk/posts/10153340529408365?comment_id=...
Regards Arden Thomas
Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager
Arden Thomas Cincom Smalltalk STAR Team and Cincom Smalltalk Product Manager
CINCOM SYSTEMS, INC. 55 Merchant Street Cincinnati, OH 45246
office
website email
513-612-2300
http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com athomas@cincom.com
Less is More
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