Hi happy (or sad like me today) Smalltalkers and friends for most of you.

Thank for the support of some of you. I think that this story is an amazing press
for Smalltalk. I���m still shocked that people do not realise how it can be bad for all of us.
Now I have my part of responsibility and I should not have replied to such aggression.
But I have one rule in life is to never let people lie about me and my projects.

Since I feel that I cannot do much beside being systematically insulted
without the right to say anything I will quit the GSOC mentor mailing-list,
I will not propose any topics this year and I will set up a rule to any mails with Janko or
GSOC to be trashed.

I���m immensely sad for the students that work with me and all the people that trust me and
judge me on my acts since all these years.

Fools and idiots won. I lost no problem. I prefer to focus on creating good energy.

No need to reply because my filter is on and delete everything automatically.
Stef

In these moments, I wonder why I did not went in ruby.

On 10 Feb 2014, at 17:38, Janko Miv��ek <janko.mivsek@eranova.si> wrote:

> Time therefore to expose that sad story from GSoC 2010. So that the
> community can judge by themselves if my claims are insults or real.
>
> For the start, this was not a money matter but meddling into project
> selection process.
>
> Here is the story:
>
> On GSoC 2010 Gilad Bracha proposed a Newspeak/Smalltalk Import/Export
> Tool project idea [1]. After the idea was put on ideas list [2],
> St��phane Ducasse ordered my co-admin to remove Gilad's idea from the
> list. Co-admin told that to me. I was shocked that someone can come to
> such an idea to remove something even in the idea phase from the GSoC.
> Of course I rejected such an order immediately.
>
> Even more, co-admin was at that time just starting the postgraduade
> study under the Mr.Ducasse mentorship. You can imagine how he felt, like
> between two fires. It is reasonable therefore to suspect that Mr.Duccase
> uses his power as a mentor over postgraduate student to try to achieve
> his goal.
>
> What was the motivation of Mr.Ducasse to made such a blatant act was not
> quite clear to me. And is also not important. Important is that such
> removal attempts are totally unacceptable. Only GSoC mentors have that
> right by reviewing and voting on the projects to be finally selected for
> stipendiums.
>
> In any case, this incident was a start of my thinking and working on
> GSoC to be as transparent, neutral and independent as possible.
>
> Best regards
> Janko
>
> [1] http://gsoc2010.esug.org/projects/newspeak-tool
> [2] http://gsoc2010.esug.org/ideas
>
>
>
>
> Dne 10. 02. 2014 15:30, pi��e St��phane Ducasse:
>> I can tell you that until now I took that as a little crisis of Janko but now this makes me sick.
>> I do not think that I will stand in the same room than him in the future.
>>
>> Sorry Janko you are insulting people publicly but you mention that you don't.
>> I will check if I have a lawyer to handle this situation because you cannot have just words against me.
>> I will check with the inria lawyer first.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>>
>>
>>> I do not understand the motivation of Janko, especially since he is apparently alone to think that way.
>>> It is impressive to see how fragile the community is.
>>> Thanks Paolo and thanks the ESUG board for handling this difficult situation!
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Alexandre
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 10, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor@tudorgirba.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I support it, too.
>>>>
>>>> The only path to action I see is to act. And in this situation, Paolo was the only one that offered a pragmatic way out. Thank you, Paolo! :)
>>>>
>>>> So, I suggest this:
>>>> - we take Marcus' suggestion and have the present issue be handled at the next ESUG general assembly. Like this we ensure that the problem is going to be addressed in a more effective environment (namely, more structured, and not via mail).
>>>> - we go forward with Paolo as an admin. Like this we ensure that action happens now.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I support this, along with a general require that you keep this discussion in private.
>>>>
>>>> Esteban
>>>>
>>>> On 10 Feb 2014, at 12:10, Stephan Eggermont <stephan@stack.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I no longer have confidence in Janko running as GSoC admin
>>>>> and want Paolo to take over as admin for Esug as mentoring organisation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephan Eggermont
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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