Hi Damien, First, I do not insult anyone and certainly praise the ESUG and you guys for all work you are doing. On the other side I cannot go over bad things happening like this one. Unacceptable behavior must be exposed and treated accordingly, as I said this is needed for any community to stay healthy long-term.
ESUG might have done a mistake giving 5000€ to the students and not the amount that people voted for. I should have paid more attention to that and I apologize. That's all I will apologize for.
Thanks for your apologize, it is appreciated. Still I think we deserve an apologize from those who spreaded privately and publicly the 'we lost money' claim.
Now, I want to have details about your message. What do you mean by "blatantly unethical behavior"? At which point have we been unethical?
This is story from GSoC 2010, a first GSoC I run as admin. Because it is so blatant, I give to the main actor a first word, then I'll explain and put on table my side of the story and arguments. In any case, this story is main reason that I started then already pushing Smalltalk GSoC to be as independent as possible, with current rename to Smalltalk proposal as a culmination. Best regards Janko Dne 10. 02. 2014 10:40, piše Damien Cassou:
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@eranova.si> wrote:
This matter is actually very important for Smalltalk community, because it exposes nontransparent, meddling behind the scenes, and in some cases blatantly unethical behavior of some ESUG board members.
I thank you for your efforts running the GSoC marathon every year.
Nevertheless, as a member of the board I feel insulted again by you Janko. I'm tired spending hours doing work for everyone and get such a message as an answer
Now, I want to have details about your message. What do you mean by "blatantly unethical behavior"? At which point have we been unethical?
Last time we talked about the representation of the Smalltalk community in the ESUG board, I asked people from other communities to apply and come work with us (http://lists.esug.org/pipermail/esug-list_lists.esug.org/2012-July/001849.ht...). Nobody applied! I will ask again, thanks for the remainder. Who is going to take care of ESUG if we focus on taking care of Pharo?
Please stop insulting people. If you want to stop organizing the GSoC for the Smalltalk community just say it clearly and we will all thank you for the effort you have put in during this last years. But if you want to continue, please do it with ESUG as this is what the ESUG community seems to want if I analyse the answers you got to the recent threads.