On 10/29/2010 01:26 PM, Serge Stinckwich wrote:
I think Paolo is right here. I presented Smalltalk to a bunch of Ruby user groups in 2009, and the reactions were pretty similar:
"That's way cool (especially the debugger), but why can't I use (insert text editor or VCS here)"
I'm not suggesting that we ditch the image; just that we recognize the hurdle there
So if we have a Smalltalk text pane with a VI or emacs bindings, they will be happy ?;-)
For the editor there's basically no satisfying solution. With good completion and good tools, it's possible that people will just accept losing their beloved key bindings. (Note that IMHO there's in general a UI problem especially in Squeak/Pharo, it's not just about the bindings, but I don't want to digress). For the VCS, I've always been surprised there's no git or svn backend for Monticello. It wouldn't seem _too_ hard to have a directory per package and replace each .mcz file with a commit in that directory. Alternatively, there's actually very little GST-specific code in http://github.com/timfel/gitocello (a Squeak+Monticello <-> GST+git bridge), so if someone wants to play with it... Paolo