Personally, I'd like to thank the ESUG board in general, and Stef in particular, for all of the work they put into promoting Smalltalk. I have a pretty good idea as to how thankless a job that often is, and I for one appreciate all of their efforts! On Jul 5, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
Thanks a lot steven for pissing on us. This is fun nobody ever told us anything when the complete board was programming in VW. And nobody told us anything when the complete board was using Squeak. Strange no. And ESUG even manage money for the squeak foundation.
But you are welcome. Do you not worry, you are damaging ESUG and this is great. You are an hero.
Keep going. Thanks for all these positive energy.
Stef
On Jul 5, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Steven Kelly wrote:
Since I didn't really see an answer to Michael Haupt's question, about what is the main Smalltalk dialect of the board members, I did a quick Google on their home pages, looking there or on CVs for which Smalltalk is mentioned. Obviously this is not an accurate method, and I'd much rather the board members answered the question - please, please don't get annoyed because Google says this, just tell us what the real situation is. But for what little it's worth:
here are the members of the ESUG's board:
President: Stéphane Ducasse <- Pharo Treasurer: Luc Fabresse <- Pharo Damien Cassou <- Pharo Jordi Delgado <- Pharo Marcus Denker <- Squeak, Pharo Alain Plantec <- Pharo Serge Stinckwich <- none on home page, adding various Smalltalk names to the search terms shows several, with Pharo giving most hits
If that's the impression a casual web browse gives, then even if it is totally and utterly incorrect, hopefully the board can understand why it seems reasonable to members who don't know all the details to mention potential conflicts of interest.
So, what does it mean that if so many on the board have a Pharo link? First, it's brilliant that these people are active in doing something for a Smalltalk, as well as their great work in ESUG. Second, it's brilliant that Pharo people are active in wider promotion of Smalltalk in general. And third, it's going to be rather difficult to have a sensible vote on the board, and discussions on the members email list may be a little tense :).
No worries from me, though. I think it's great what ESUG are doing, and great what Pharo is doing. Personally I'd rather not have ESUG sponsor Pharo, but that's just one person's opinion, and hopefully nobody gets upset about it.
Go Smalltalk! Steve
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