Henrik, from what I've heard in the coffee break (and I agree to that), most people here in Barcelona thought this is enough. The idea (or at least the ideaof the audience) was that each vendor can present some of their hghlights to the wider Smalltalk communities, but not more than that. The users of a certain dialect probably know most of that stuff already, and the others just want to hear what's going on in the other dialects. And, of course, you must keep in mind that we have lots of time for talking between the talks, and the real fun is not in the talks but between them. When you're not here, you miss a lot, even if you can see the prsentations. Luckily, all the vendor representants here are open minded, friendly and don't show a "them vs. us" attitude. You can see people from Gemstone, Instantiations and Cincom standing together and chatting, as well as Cincomers working on Smalltalk code in Pharo or VA Smalltalk, in order to port some framework over or play with stuff. So if you were here and wanted to learn morw about a specific feature, you could always approach Arden, Dale or John and have a chat. Which is what's happening. While we're at it, let me phrase it in my words: ESUG is a conference, not a tradeshow. I'd be p*d off if I had flown here, booked a hotel and paid for long sales talks. I'd be happy to listen to long sales presentations if this would make ESUG attendence free. But as long as I pay for it: no commercial breaks, please ;-) Just my thoughts Joachim Am 15.09.10 15:26, schrieb stephane ducasse:
all the vendors were given the same amount of time. And there are a lot of talk about their platforms in the program.
Stef
On Sep 15, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Henrik Høyer wrote:
Just my humble thoughts...
I watched the talks from Cincom and Instantiations , and was somewhat surprised of the very short time they were given. They are sponsors of the event, and should imho get more time to promote their offerings.
The talks from the vendors was biased towards existing customers, and I think that the vendors should be given a chance to promote the offerings; show their usp's, showcase their references, present licensing information, prices etc. etc.
Basically allow them to give the sales pitch, they would normally use to impress a prospect. -- Henrik Høyer, sPeople ApS Chief Software Architect (+45) 4029 2092
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